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Nick

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Jan 9, 2001, 6:38:49 AM1/9/01
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Hi,

My computer is an AMD-K6-2 / 450MHz with 32MB RAM. Of this 4MB is shared
RAM. And the computer is running
Win98SE.

When running Scandisk on drive D from DOS, this following message appears:

"ScanDisk cannot read from the last cluster on drive D. This cluster is
either damaged or your system is not configured properly. Drive D may need
to have Logical Block Addressing (LBA) enabled to work properly, or its disk
partition may be incorrectly marked as a non-LBA partition. Data loss can
occur if your LBA setting or disk partition type for this drive is
misconfigured.

Check your computer's BIOS setup utility, or contact your computers
manufacturer, or have your computer checked by a qualified hardware
technician.

If you are sure you drive is configured correctly, click <Continue> to have
ScanDisk check drive D for errors."

Click on <Continue> shows this message:
"If your computer LBA setting is configured improperly and ScanDisk
continues, ScanDisk may report and repair errors incorrectly. This could
result in severe damage to your data or could incorrectly mark sections of
your drive as bad.

Are you sure you r system is configured properly?" <Yes> <No>

[Note: Runing Scandisk in Windows or a Dos window reports no errors.]

From the CMOS SETUP UTILITY (AWARD BIOS v4.51PG):
Primary Master:
Select Primary Master
Option (N=skip): N

Options Size Cyls Head Precom LANDZ Sector Mode
2(Y) 8694 1057 255 0 16857 63 LBA
1 8700 16858 16 65535 16857 63 Normal
3 8699 2107 128 65535 16857 63 Large


Also, this from a utility called 'SYSIN100.EXE'/

GENERIC IDE DISK TYPE 47
MANUFACTURE: (STANDARD disk drives)
MODULE NAME: MAXTOR 90871U2
Cylinders: 16383 Sectors: 63
Heads: 16 Size: 8297MB
Status: This device is working properly.

Logical Drive
Drive C - Local Disk
Used: 656.32 MB
Free: 5.44 GB
Capacity: 6.08 GB

Drive D - Local Disk
Used: 877.35 MB
Free: 1.13 GB
Capacity: 1.99 GB

What should I do to remedy this situation? Thanks, for any help and
information you give!

Nick

Walter Clayton

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Jan 9, 2001, 9:12:40 AM1/9/01
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Go here ftp://ftp.powerquest.com/pub/utilities/ and download partinfo.exe.
Start a DOS prompt and run it using the following command

partinfo >partinto.txt

Attach partinfo.txt back here.

--
Walter Clayton
Microsoft MVP (MPS-D)
Any technology distinguishable from magic is insufficiently advanced
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Want to know where each version of a MS module came from?
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Walter Clayton

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Jan 9, 2001, 10:25:56 AM1/9/01
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You drive geometry is correct. There is however a potential problem I see,
but it depends on your hardware configuration. Are you running with UMDA-4
(ATA-66) IDE controllers and 80 wire IDE cable or have you run the Maxtor
utility to change the firmware ID of the drive back to UDMA-2?

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Microsoft MVP (MPS-D)
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> Hope you meant partinfo.txt sent as an attachment, as it appears. I
> previously forgot to mention that drive D stores Bkpimg, which is Drive
> Image Special Edition. It came with the PC and restores the system back
to
> factory setup. This probably is not at all important, but I meant to
> include that info earlier. Thanks for helping!
>
> Nick
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Nick

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Jan 9, 2001, 11:15:31 AM1/9/01
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Please excuse the e-mail Walter, I hit the wrong button. :-/
I apologize, but I don't know the answers to your questions. There's been
no attempt to change or alter the drive specifications on the end user (me)
part. If you could suggest how to find some of the information you allude
to, I'll try to find it out. Wish I were more help.

Nick
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Walter Clayton

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Jan 9, 2001, 1:24:40 PM1/9/01
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OK.
Go here http://www.maxtor.com
Click on the Software Download heading in the left hand pane.
There are two things you'll need. The first is the powermax.exe application
so you can run Maxtor diagnostics. Download it and print off the
instructions.
Once you have that downloaded, click on the link for the Utility Library. On
this page you want the 100updt.exe utility. Download it and print off the
instructions.

Copy both programs to separate diskettes.

To run either utility you're going to need a boot diskette since you'll have
to boot from floppy in order to run either utility. You can create a boot
diskette by doing a start->settings->control panel->add/remove
programs->start up disk tab.

Clean boot your system from diskette by restarting your machine and holding
down the left shift key until you see the a:> prompt. Once you have that,
remove the boot diskette and replace it with the diskette with powermax.exe
and follow the instructions for creating and running the diagnostic utility.
If the drive has problems then contact your system builder or Maxtor. For
this initial test, you only need to run the quick test, although you can try
the advanced test if you like. It's non-destructive but it may take a bit to
run. Do not run either the burn in test or write disk pack.

If the drive passes the quick test, swap the floppy out with one containing
100updt.exe and run it to extract the DMA change utility. Run it using the
following command:

udmaupdt /dma:2

This will cause the drives to be reported to the BIOS as UDMA-2 drives
instead of the current UDMA-4. When the utility completes (only takes a few
seconds), it will tell you to power off and back on. Do so. Reboot the
system to DOS (either floppy or HD) and run scandisk to see if this corrects
the problems.

--
Walter Clayton
Microsoft MVP (MPS-D)
Any technology distinguishable from magic is insufficiently advanced
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Nick

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Jan 11, 2001, 10:16:41 AM1/11/01
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Hi again,

I Followed the instructions given below. Got the same error message. Tried
the POWERMAX and UDMAUPDT.EXE utilities again. This time ran ScanDisk from
a bootup prompt. No errors reported, even after scanning drive D disk
surface for errors. After further tries, it is evident that the 'error
message' was caused whenever I dropped down to DOS using a systray utility
called Exits 95/98. Any other method of scanning drive D shows no errors or
bad clusters. For some reason, using the 'Exits' utility reports a false
error message when running ScanDisk in DOS.
(BTW, from the Maxtor website, the HDD on this pc is indentified as
|90871U2| 8.7 GB DiamondMax VL 17 Ultra DMA 66. From the value line of hard
disk drives.
So, now that this computer is set as UMDA-2, it seems that it dosen't return
to UMDA-4 now, after using UDMAUPDT.EXE to return it back to UDMA-4. The
utility reports a change back to UDMA-4, but the bootup screen shows UDMA-2.
The Motherboard is a BIOSTAR M5SAA and the pc is just a year old. The BIOS
"IDE HDD AUTO DETECTION" is enabled (default).
Please, any further assistance here to help me understand what I should do,
is appreciated. Thanks for helping before!

Joe

PC: AMD K6-2 450MHz
Excerpt from bootup screen:
Award Modular BIOS v4.51PG
Copyright 1984-98, Award Software, Inc.
SAA0721D
Award Plug and Play BIOS Extension v1.04
Copyright 1998, Award Software, Inc.
-----------
Pri. Master Disk: LBA, UDMA2, 8700MB
Pri. Slave Disk: None
Sec. Master Disk: CDROM, UDMA2
Sec. Slave Disk: None
-----------


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Walter Clayton

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Jan 11, 2001, 10:24:21 AM1/11/01
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Interesting. I'll have to keep that app in mind.
Did you run udmaupdt with the /DMA:4 parameter?
Go into your BIOS and do a manual redetection of the drive. I have a couple
of Maxtor's that I've had to switch back and forth between UDMA-2 and 4
without any problems.

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Walter Clayton

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Jan 11, 2001, 1:41:38 PM1/11/01
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Are you doing this completely from diskette or using the HD for any part of
the function (either boot or executing udmaupdt from the HD)? I've never
seen udmaupdt cause a prompt for command.com.

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Microsoft MVP (MPS-D)
Any technology distinguishable from magic is insufficiently advanced
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> > Did you run udmaupdt with the /DMA:4 >parameter?
>

> Yes, typed in UDMAUPDT /dma:4. There was a warning: Warning - error
opening
> Chipset.drv file. Using default driver. Press a key to continue.
> Continuing, received: MAXIMUM Ultra DMA Changed to Mode 4. Power cycle
> computer to complete the update!!!!! ******Ivalid COMMAND.COM Enter
correct
> name of Command Interpreter (eg, C:\COMMAND.COM). I entered
c:\command.com.
> Then went into the BIOS again and under |Select Primary Master| Changed
the
> 'N' to a 'Y' and pressed <Enter> which gave an "Auto-Detecting Primary
> Master" message.
> Below is from the Auto-Detect feature in the BIOS, and is different from
the
> one
> included in my original post:
>
> Select Primary Master Option (N=Skip) : N
>
> OPTIONS SIZE CYLS HEAD PRECOMP LANDZ SECTOR MODE
> 2(Y) 8694 1057 255 0 33318
> 63 LBA
> ------
> Since my technical knowledge of Hardware is surface only, I cannot be
> certain that UMDA4 was in use at the time of using Maxtor's UMDAUPDT.EXE
> utility to change the Ultra DMA Mode to UMDA2. But, from indications in
the
> motherboard manuel, this PC seem capable of running in UDMA4 mode. Not
> trying to be lengthy here, but this is from the MBd manuel:
>
> Hard Disk COnnectors (IDE1/IDE2)
> The motherboard has a 32-bit Enhanced PCI IDE Controller that provides
PIO
> Mode 0~4, Bus Master, and Ultra DMA / 66 functionality. It has two HDD
> connectors IDE1 (primary) and IDE2 (secondary). You can connect up to
four
> hard disk drives, a CD-ROM, a 120MB Floppy (reserved for future BIOS) and
> other devices to IDE1 and IDE2. These connectors support the IDE hard
disk
> cable provided.
> ------------
> The bootup screen shows pri. master as UMDA2 and CDROM as UMDA2.
>
> I hope you will explain any ideas or suggestions as you have, further.
> Thanks! :-)
>
> Dominic Joseph DiCola (nick or joe)


Coreen

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Jan 19, 2001, 11:23:28 PM1/19/01
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Hey nick, your date is coming up like a month ahead of time

Reenie

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