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Gabriele Hauschild

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Dec 11, 2004, 9:30:15 PM12/11/04
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I have a stand alone Packard Bell PC Pentium 3, 40 GB hard
disk and 512MB RAM with Win98SE. Its hard disk was
replaced by Packard Bell's authorised engineers "PC
Service Call" who used its "Restoration Disks" to reload
Windows 98SE as it was when first purchased in 2000. We
have since loaded all the software and working data back
on to it.

Unfortunately, Neither ScanDisk nor_ Defrag will start,
giving an error m_essage which states that there is
not enough memory even when no applications are loaded and
also when tried in Safe mode.
This was so before we put our applications and data back
on.
ScanDisk does work in DOS and has completed successfully
there but Defrag cannot be used at all since it is only
available in Windows.

"PC Service Call" only offer to format the hard disk,
which would lose all the data on it.

The system is virus and malware free.

How can we get Defrag (and ScanDisk in Windows) to work
without losing all the data on the hard drive?

Help would be appreciated.

Gary S. Terhune

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Dec 11, 2004, 9:43:01 PM12/11/04
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Please run each app and report back with the *exact* language of the error
messages (if it's exactly the same for both, then you only need to run one, of
course.) It's hard to search the literature without exact error language.

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Gary S. Terhune
MS MVP Shell/User

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Gabriele Hauschild

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Dec 11, 2004, 11:29:54 PM12/11/04
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Hello Gary,

Thank you for your message of 12/11/2004, 6:43:01 PM.
These are the exact error messages:

"Error Defragmenting Drive C
Your computer does not have enough free memory to
defragment this drive. Quit one or more programs, and then
try defragmenting this drive again.
ID No: DEFRAG009
OK"

"Scandisk - (C:)
ScanDisk could not continue because your computer does not
have enough available memory. If any other programs are
running, quit one or more of them, and then try running
ScanDisk again.
OK"

ScanDisk does run in DOS but not in Windows.
Defrag does not run.

I hope you can help.

>.
>

glee

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Dec 12, 2004, 1:12:06 AM12/12/04
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"Your Computer Does Not Have Enough Free Memory to Defrag the Drive" Error Message:
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=229154
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Glen Ventura, MS MVP W95/98 Systems
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Gary S. Terhune

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Dec 12, 2004, 1:51:26 AM12/12/04
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OK, Gabrielle. See this article:
"'Your Computer Does Not Have Enough Free Memory to Defrag the Drive' Error
Message"
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=229154

It would appear that the techs improperly partitioned the hard drive. There is
only one decent way to repair this that I can think of off the top of my head,
without wrecking the installation (requiring reformat and reinstallation.)
"Bootit NG" (BING.) Get it at www.bootitng.com.

Download the ZIP file, unzip it to a new folder, then run bootitng.exe from
inside that folder. You will need a fresh floppy disk. The program will create a
bootable floppy disk that's to be used to install the program. Go ahead and boot
to that disk, but CANCEL the installation. This will drop you into Maintenance
Mode. Choose Partition Work. Select the partition (which I assume occupies the
entire drive), then click Resize. Make it 8 GB if possible, but you want to have
at least 15% free space, so if that means making the partition larger than 8GB
(8192 MB), so be it. Allow cluster size to be determined by BING. For partitions
under 8 GB, that's 4 KB clusters. In the resulting free space, crate an Extended
Partition, and inside that, first create a 2 to 4 GB partition, then divvy up
the rest into partitions as you please. Partitioning this remaining space can be
treated a bit more liberally--don't *have* to be 8 GB or less, it depends on
what you intend to store there (if mostly large files, larger partitions, with
larger clusters, are acceptable.)

Win98 operating systems should, ideally, be on partitions no larger than 8 GB,
so that cluster size is 4KB, which is ideal for storage efficiency and
performance. If you can't achieve that at first, you should return to Windows
and move some storage onto the new partitions. Then go back and resize them
again. (You'll also need to slide and resize the remaining partitions, perhaps,
to occupy the new free space.) The second partition, the 2-4 GB one, is where I
recommend putting the TEMP and Temporary Internet Files. (Also good for staging
CD burns, building ZIP files, etc. Anything that is temporary.) After that, the
best thing is to move *all* user files to the remaining partitions, including My
Documents and Outlook Express storage. Post back if you need instructions on how
to do that.

Lastly, unless you have your removable drives (CDROM, CD burners, ZIP drives,
etc.) already lettered way down the alphabet, these new partitions are going to
change the previous drive letters. You'll need to edit the registry manually, or
use a "Change of Address" utility to change whatever pointers exist in your
system to the correct new ones.

(Or, if you want to keep it simple, use BING to just change the clustering to
the proper size for a 40 GB drive. That means 32 KB clusters. Quite wasteful,
and not great for performance.)

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Gary S. Terhune
MS MVP Shell/User

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Gary S. Terhune

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Dec 12, 2004, 1:55:56 AM12/12/04
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Don't you just love the "solutions" they offer, Glen?

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