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Dan

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Aug 11, 2008, 11:01:07 PM8/11/08
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Just the Usual Spam

BoaterDave

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Aug 17, 2008, 11:53:02 AM8/17/08
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On 12 Aug, 04:01, Dan <D...@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
> Just the Usual Spam

Responding from Google Groups with a copy of the message I've just
posted through OE6.

By "using OE6" I *did* mean logged on to msnews.microsoft.com (using
OE6) - as I've already mentioned, Google Groups will not allow me to
post.

NO WAIT! This link
http://groups.google.co.uk/group/microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion/browse_thread/thread/5a97f6eccb68ce3f?hl=en

is now *active* and would allow me to post. (scratches head!).
However, if you follow the link you will see that no-one has replied
to Dan in the thread - not even me. Ve...ery strange!

There is absolutely *no* reference to the message to which Dan (OP)
originally replied showing on this machine.

I find that strange too.

Can no-one provide a better explanation than those already given?

TIA

Dave

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Gary S. Terhune

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Aug 17, 2008, 4:35:55 PM8/17/08
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Which explanation is it that you're referring to? The one you seem to think
is deficient?

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Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User
http://grystmill.com

"BoaterDave" <Boate...@hotmail.co.uk> wrote in message
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~BD~

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Aug 18, 2008, 3:35:54 AM8/18/08
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"Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
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> Which explanation is it that you're referring to? The one you seem to
> think is deficient?
>
> --
> Gary S. Terhune
> MS-MVP Shell/User
> http://grystmill.com

Gary ........... you are quite correct when elsewhere you refer to me being
an idiot! ;)

I posted my last message here to the wrong 'No Thanks' thread started by
Dan. I then realised my error. I then posted the following message in the
*other* thread:-

*************************************

*Apology*

I've found the original SPAM - here: http://www.jagadhesh2020.blogspot.com/

Using Google there are TWO separate (but similar) groups.

!.
http://groups.google.co.uk/group/microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion/topics?hl=en

2.
http://groups.google.co.uk/group/microsoft.public.win98.general.discussion/topics?hl=en

I'm sorry to have persisted with this query - but there must always be
a reason for - well, everything! <wink!>

Dave

**************************************

I trust this explains matters. I'm sorry for making the error. :(

Dave

Dan

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Aug 19, 2008, 1:24:05 PM8/19/08
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Good, BD and Gary -- how about you guys -- forgive -- shake hands and let us
move on --- yes -- Microsoft removed the original spam -- end of story

Jeff Richards

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Aug 19, 2008, 7:37:27 PM8/19/08
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and can you also please note that it is much easier for MS to remove the
original spam if there are no replies to it.
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Jeff Richards
MS MVP (Windows - Shell/User)
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Dan

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Aug 20, 2008, 12:04:02 AM8/20/08
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okay

~BD~

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Aug 20, 2008, 11:11:50 AM8/20/08
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Your comment is noted, Jeff.

Are you, kind of, suggesting that employees of Microsoft do, in fact,
monitor what happens in these newsgroups (Communities), check the advice
posted and make sure all links posted are 'safe'?

I think they should .......... but suspect that they don't!

Dave

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Dan

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Aug 20, 2008, 2:54:07 PM8/20/08
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Enough!, BD, Jeff is good. The mvps are good and I have only had issues
between myself and Gary S. Terhune recently and I view that as the past when
my thyroid had issues. It still has issues but I am working with the medical
community to maintain and stabilize it as best as I can.

Please Note: If you do continue on this route, I will be forced to ignore
you which I would rather not do since I have not even had to do that with
b_nice and b_nice may be knowledgeable but b_nice does not have any manners
in the newsgroups and is one of the very few who have been rude to me in the
past. I have hurt Gary and he has hurt me and hopefully someday we will be
able to look back and smile or maybe even laugh on the past but that day is
not today.

BTW, if you want me even to consider signing up for the newsgroup that you
suggested, your view is not my view of the world. I view myself as the
peacemaker in the 98 general newsgroup if that is at all possible in a
newsgroup.

~BD~

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Aug 20, 2008, 3:17:50 PM8/20/08
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No offence was meant - either to Jeff or to yourself, Dan.

Dave

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> Enough!, BD, Jeff is good.

<snip>


Jeff Richards

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Aug 20, 2008, 6:22:41 PM8/20/08
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Only be accident and very casually, and probably never for W98.

However, they do respond to reports of spam and remove it promptly. Also,
this sort of spam usually appears in a large number of groups at the same
time, so once they identify it in one group they look for it in all the
others.

There are some groups where MS employees are active, but they operate pretty
much like everyone else. If someone becomes aware of a dangerous link that
isn't obviously spam they will usually comment.


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Jeff Richards
MS MVP (Windows - Shell/User)

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~BD~

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Aug 21, 2008, 2:26:49 AM8/21/08
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Thank you for taking the time and trouble to add this comment, Jeff.

Regretably, this only confirms my fears that 'the bad guys' could, and maybe
do, prey on the innocent folk who come here in desperation when things go
wrong with their computers. It is simple to impersonate someone else and/or
masquerade as an MS MVP - how would a newbie know?

I fear that these newsgroups are a very dangerous place. Just my view!

Dave

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Jeff Richards

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Aug 21, 2008, 7:35:22 AM8/21/08
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The significant point in favour of the newsgroups is that when bad
information is handed out there are usually plenty of people watching who
will recognise it and provide a warning. So the possibility of the bad guys
preying is enormously reduced, provided that those looking for assistance
can recognise the conflict and treat the advice they have received
accordingly.

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Jeff Richards
MS MVP (Windows - Shell/User)
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Dan

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Aug 21, 2008, 1:32:02 PM8/21/08
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I appreciate your feedback as well, Jeff.

~BD~

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Aug 22, 2008, 2:27:51 AM8/22/08
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"...provided that those looking for assistance can recognise the conflict
....."

Indeed! However, I well remember that when I first ventured onto the
Microsoft Communities pages I had thought that I was going to be given
advice and help by employees of the mighty Microsoft itself.

I never for one moment had any idea that 'the system' could be abused in the
ways which I have subsequently discovered. <groan!>

Thanks again for helping others, Jeff. Have a great day! :)

Dave

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"Jeff Richards" <JRic...@msn.com.au> wrote in message

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Dan

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Aug 22, 2008, 7:36:00 AM8/22/08
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BD, this is indeed a good group. However, you do have to be careful about
noticing people's sarcasim sometimes since in here you can only go by
people's words and do not have tone and body language clues to help you with
the process. I have messed up big time with that since I am not good at
reading body language anyway and I sometimes hear tone the wrong way. I read
tone and body language the way it exist's in Dan's DreamLand (Delivers 3-D's
- smile> which I know is prideful on my part but that is the long and the
short of it.
It helps also to see computers and machines as part of a big game since I am
originally an old-school gamer. However, it also helps to take the
discussion seriously but not seriously enough that it impacts your health
<guilty on this front> and your overall sense of well being. I am in my 30's
now and I say that because I still see myself as 10 on some days and 70-80 on
other days since I already feel quite well accomplished and learned in Dan's
life in a childlike and sometimes immature way. A perfect example is
pretending to be Art Wilder back in the late 90's-early 00's since I was
fearful of people and identity theft. It hit me twice by the way in 2000
from dumpster diving in Tucson, Arizona and now in 2007 after a computer hack
in at APS <Albuquerque Public Schools in the summer-fall of 2007> and at
least I can look back and handle it now by laughing about the situations
despite how painful they may still be deep within me. LOL!!
By the way, what games did you like back in the day. I have mentioned how I
played the original King's Quest 1 by Sierra on Line on my IBM PCjr which my
mom as a public school teacher in New York City bought for a bargain of $900
back in the day and the amazing thing is that it still works but is mainly
kept in storage. I also liked text games like the Zork series and
Wishbringer by Infocom and that is why I think I feel so comfortable in a
text environment as well as growing up with BASIC and DOS. <grins>

"~BD~" wrote:

> "...provided that those looking for assistance can recognise the conflict

> ......"

~BD~

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Aug 22, 2008, 10:50:21 AM8/22/08
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Dan - I'd love to chat, but this really isn't the place <smile>

I've been to Albuquerque. Great place!

Come over to Jenn's forum and we'll take it from there ...............

www.pqlr.org/bbs

Dave

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<snip>


Dan

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Aug 22, 2008, 12:26:01 PM8/22/08
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. . . sounds good, I will check it out soon. BTW, how do I know it is safe
and secure?

~BD~

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Aug 22, 2008, 1:41:16 PM8/22/08
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I cannot answer that, Dan. I'm not 100% certain anyway, but I think so!

I trust in God - He looks after me! :)

Dave

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NOx_WiZaRD

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Oct 22, 2008, 5:59:59 PM10/22/08
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sure

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