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Edwin Gijsbregts

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Dec 9, 1999, 3:00:00 AM12/9/99
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How can one tell the modem to ignore the dialtone when
dialling a number ?
The fact is that due to voicemail activation the dialtone
on my line has changed; the modem doesn't recognize this
new tone as a dialtone and thus won't dial a number.
A solution would be to command the modem to not wait for
the dialtone and start dialling the number immediately.
But how ?
In the docs of the modem (Olitec VoiceFax) I found some
AT command that prevents the generation of certain messages,
e.g. the 'no dialtone' message (it is an Xn command). But I
don't know what to do with this AT commands ...
This is for Windows3.11 (but probably the same is true for
other versions).
Any ideas ???

TIA,
Edwin.

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Dec 9, 1999, 3:00:00 AM12/9/99
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Try here,
http://808hi.com/56k/trouble.htm
HTH*<:)

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Joseph V. Morris

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Dec 9, 1999, 3:00:00 AM12/9/99
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Edwin,

I see we have an "uh-oh!" This is a Belgian phone system?
Hmmm, you may need DeLa, Erwin Dokter, or Emeric to assist you with this
one.

In the US, there are actually two considerations:
1) There is 'call-waiting' which tends to interject a soft beep or
double-beep into an ongoing telephone conversation (or dial-up network
connection--it can't tell the difference) to let you know that someone
else is trying to reach you. (This will almost invariably break up a
dial-up network connection.) Actual solution to this problem varies from
one regional telephone company to another in the US, perhaps the most
common is to include a *70, at the beginning of the dialing string.
2) Then there is the "You have messages" tone, frequently heard when you
try to originate a telephone call and are being informed that others have
left voice mail for you. I'm most accustomed to hearing anywhere from
three to six fast beeps of varying loudness and tone (depending on
telephone system) prior to the system switching to the normal dial tone.
Unfortunately the solution to this varies from one modem manufacturer to
another and also can vary from one regional carrier to another. In my
situation, I append the four characters s6=5 to the end of the modem
initialization string for the modem. I've heard some people can get by
with s6=3 whereas other may require s6=7 .

Don't know that this will work in your situation, but you might give it a
try.

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Edwin Gijsbregts

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"Joseph V. Morris" wrote:
>
> 2) Then there is the "You have messages" tone, frequently heard when you
> try to originate a telephone call and are being informed that others have
> left voice mail for you. I'm most accustomed to hearing anywhere from
> three to six fast beeps of varying loudness and tone (depending on
> telephone system) prior to the system switching to the normal dial tone.
> Unfortunately the solution to this varies from one modem manufacturer to
> another and also can vary from one regional carrier to another. In my
> situation, I append the four characters s6=5 to the end of the modem
> initialization string for the modem. I've heard some people can get by
> with s6=3 whereas other may require s6=7 .

Ok, sounds good, but where do I find the initialization string from
a modem ? Where can I change it ?
I did find a bunch of *.inf files from which I selected my
modemtype. When I look into the specific .inf file I can see there
multiple initialization strings ... do I have to change it there
and reselect the modem ?
I am talking about win3.11. Don't know if it is the same (or maybe
easier) in Win9x.

Thank you for your info.
Edwin.

Joseph V. Morris

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Dec 9, 1999, 3:00:00 AM12/9/99
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Edwin,

Oops, sorry about that. I believe you're looking for modems2.ini,
probably in the directory where iexplore is installed. It's a plain text
file, so you can open it in Notepad or whatever.

If it has several sections, find the one for your installed modem and then
append the 4 characters "s6=5" to the end of the initialization string
(without the quote marks, of course).

Exit Windows and reboot (oh, why not? It's been months, right?? <g>)
Come back into Windows and see if this solves your problem.

If not, you may have to wait for the other guys to get off work in another
hour or so, I would guess?

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äë

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The URL you append leads to a site where modem settings for
Win9x are discussed. In Win3 you need to enter the whole string,
including the AT&F section.

You need to find the piece of string taht tells the modem not to
wait for a dial tone. Check some websites about modems? It might
be a string specific for your modem. Try the website of the
modem manufacturer.

Otherwise, you might jump into the regedet16.exe wilderness if
of course you run IE4 or IE5; I think there might be a registry
for the modem settings.


--DeLa


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| Try here,
| http://808hi.com/56k/trouble.htm
| HTH*<:)
|

| > How can one tell the modem to ignore the dialtone when
| > dialling a number ?
| > The fact is that due to voicemail activation the dialtone
| > on my line has changed; the modem doesn't recognize this
| > new tone as a dialtone and thus won't dial a number.
| > A solution would be to command the modem to not wait for
| > the dialtone and start dialling the number immediately.
| > But how ?
| > In the docs of the modem (Olitec VoiceFax) I found some
| > AT command that prevents the generation of certain messages,
| > e.g. the 'no dialtone' message (it is an Xn command). But I
| > don't know what to do with this AT commands ...
| > This is for Windows3.11 (but probably the same is true for
| > other versions).
| > Any ideas ???
| >
| > TIA,
| > Edwin.
|

Jerry Wise

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Dec 9, 1999, 3:00:00 AM12/9/99
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In article <OyoyE5lQ$GA.294@cppssbbsa05>, jvmo...@erols.com says...

>
>Edwin,
>
>Oops, sorry about that. I believe you're looking for modems2.ini,
>probably in the directory where iexplore is installed. It's a plain text
>file, so you can open it in Notepad or whatever.
>
>If it has several sections, find the one for your installed modem and then
>append the 4 characters "s6=5" to the end of the initialization string
>(without the quote marks, of course).
>
>Exit Windows and reboot (oh, why not? It's been months, right?? <g>)
>Come back into Windows and see if this solves your problem.
>
>If not, you may have to wait for the other guys to get off work in another
>hour or so, I would guess?
>
>--
>Regards,
> Joseph V. Morris
> jvmo...@erols.com
> ICQ #29438199

If your news server carries it also check the "no dial tone" thread in
news:comp.dcom.modems group as there are similar complaints and fixes being
discussed there as well.
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Joseph V. Morris

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Dec 9, 1999, 3:00:00 AM12/9/99
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Jerry,

Thanks for that one. And I also just learned that OE5.01 will connect
(and then allow you to subscribe) to a newsgroup on another news server
(which, of course, it has to already know about). I didn't know that.

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Joseph V. Morris
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Jerry Wise

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In article <e3yDk6mQ$GA.204@cppssbbsa05>, jvmo...@erols.com says...

>
>Jerry,
>
>Thanks for that one. And I also just learned that OE5.01 will connect
>(and then allow you to subscribe) to a newsgroup on another news server
>(which, of course, it has to already know about). I didn't know that.

Good corn whiskey and education can't be beat<G>. I think I'm in need of some
more of each<G>.

There was also another thread that had the same sort of thing in it and with
regard to country specific modem models and drivers and settings to alter
country and telco specific specs but I can't put my finger on that one right
now.

Emeric

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Dec 10, 1999, 3:00:00 AM12/10/99
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Edwin Gijsbregts wrote:

> How can one tell the modem to ignore the dialtone when
> dialling a number ?

I don't think it's a good idea to start the dialing process before the
modem recives a proper dialtone. If your modem does not recognize the
tone, then maybe the modem is not aimed to be used in your country, or the
driver need to be upgraded. Try to find the producer on the Net, and
download the country specific driver from their site. Meanwhile insert
3 "," (commas) in front of the number you are diling, to get a 6 sec.
pause before the modem try to detect a dialtone and start to dial. It is
the same kind of delay that "others" ;-) mentioned, but in this case you
don't need to know the procedures of changing the S-registers in your
modem's prom, as they indeed vary from one manufacturer to another. Just
open the modem settings in your dialer and add the 3 commas.

Emeric


Emeric

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Edwin Gijsbregts wrote:

> Ok, sounds good, but where do I find the initialization string from
> a modem ? Where can I change it ?

It depends on what email client (or browser) you use. Normaly you can find
these settings under "dial up", "modem", "connect" or something similar.
You may need to dig in there.

Emeric


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