win98 & DOS
Billnews
3.11machine. On the win 3.11 machine I have a DOS program that wont run in a
DOS window. I want to run it in DOS and manage it with the Win98 machines
using PC Anywhere. Can anyone give me detailed instructions on how to get
DOS on the network without buying any other products.
Thank you,
Allen Barnett
Billnews <bill...@bauercom.net> wrote in message
> I have a small peer to peer home network with two win98 machines and
a win
> 3.11machine. On the win 3.11 machine I have a DOS program that wont
run in a
> DOS window. I want to run it in DOS and manage it with the Win98
machines
> using PC Anywhere. Can anyone give me detailed instructions on how
to get
> DOS on the network without buying any other products
Bill, ... this has come up before. As you may have expected - PC
Anywhere is basically limited to being a Windows based application.
Most - if not all of the Remote Access programs that I have seen do
require Windows to be running on both machines. In that you say that
your DOS utility will not run in a Windows environment - I don't think
you will be able to get it going - sorry.
Perhaps others will have some idea.
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Alain Caron
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Grizz Weiler
Billnews wrote:
> I have a small peer to peer home network with two win98 machines and a win
> 3.11machine. On the win 3.11 machine I have a DOS program that wont run in a
> DOS window. I want to run it in DOS and manage it with the Win98 machines
> using PC Anywhere. Can anyone give me detailed instructions on how to get
> DOS on the network without buying any other products.
>
> Thank you,
>
> Bill
> Bill...@bauercom.net
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I use pcAnywhere 8.0 and 7.5 to control DOS 6.22/Win 3.11 systems using modem
connections.
pcAnywhere 5.0 is used on the DOS system, it was included in my pcAnywhere
Is your Win 3.11 system already connected to your net? If not, you will need to
load
a network client in DOS. I know that PcAnywhere versions from 7 up support IPX
TCP/IP to establish a session.
If the network connection doesn't work, can you run a null modem serial
connection?
Grizz
Grizz Weiler
Joseph V. Morris
I seem to be missing part of this thread. Do we know if this is a Windows
3.11 or a Windows for Workgroups 3.11 installation? WfW is much easier,
of course and the Windows 98 Second Edition upgrade CD (at $19.98) is
almost worth it simply for the Internet Connection Sharing that allows
multiple PCs to access the Internet concurrently using a single phone
line.
There was a DOS Network client for WfW networks, but I don't know it it's
also compatible with the Win98 peer-to-peer networks. I do recall it ate
up available conventional memory something fierce.
Wonder if the DOS app will run directly on the Win98 machine?
And where the heck is Allen Barnett? He used to respond to these queries
routinely, but I don't think I've seen him in the NG in over a month.
--
Regards,
Joseph V. Morris
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Clay Calvert <ccal...@WanGuru.com> wrote in message
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> www.helmig.com has some detailed info on how to set this up. There is
> even directions on how to share drives/printers on your DOS machine.
> Clay Calvert
> Replace the "W" in my e-mail address with an "L" to reply.
Clay Calvert
Joseph V. Morris
Response is in-line.
> He is trying to run a DOS machine, without Windows, on his local
> network. He's not asking about sharing an Internet connection.
Yeah, okay, that was kind of gratuitous lacking the thread's original
posting.
>
> All MS networking is compatible with each other. DOS clients can
> connect to Win98, NT, and Win3.1 machines. However, you need to
> purchase the WFW Add-On for DOS to be able to share drives and
> printers on the DOS machine.
Well, I knew WfW workstations could integrate with Win 95, Win 98, and Win
NT, but I wasn't sure about DOS stations with the WfW Add-on for DOS.
Still, how heavy is the network overhead for such workstations? My
experience even with WfW was that the overhead was so high that no
heavy-duty DOS programs could be run. Situation should be even worse for
a pure DOS app on a pure DOS workstation.
>
> There is a freely availabe DOS client that isn't shareable and MS
> makes it available primarily to ease the installation of NT and Win9x
> when there are numerous machines.
Sorry, not disputing your statement, just don't understand it. Could you
elaborate?
> Hopefully, since he is using
> pcAnywhere, he won't need to share the drives, but I doubt it.
I guess what concerns me here is that the original poster (whose input I
still can't find) is using PCAnywhere as a possible solution when it may
either be irrelevant or inappropriate (given the existence of the LAN).
PCAnywhere is incompatible (concurrently) with some other MS apps on a
LAN. That's what concerns me.
> Another however, there is a way to trick this DOS client into being
> able to share. This technique is listed on www.helmig.com, and yes,
> it is a memory pig, especially if you run the full re-director.
I'm starting to feel like I'm in a 'Lost in Space' episode without the
root post. <g>
At any rate, thanks for the response and any subsequent elaboration you
might choose to provide.
Clay Calvert
network. He's not asking about sharing an Internet connection.
All MS networking is compatible with each other. DOS clients can
connect to Win98, NT, and Win3.1 machines. However, you need to
purchase the WFW Add-On for DOS to be able to share drives and
printers on the DOS machine.
There is a freely availabe DOS client that isn't shareable and MS
makes it available primarily to ease the installation of NT and Win9x
when there are numerous machines. Hopefully, since he is using
pcAnywhere, he won't need to share the drives, but I doubt it.
Another however, there is a way to trick this DOS client into being
able to share. This technique is listed on www.helmig.com, and yes,
it is a memory pig, especially if you run the full re-director.
His main problem is that this program won't run in a DOS window.
On Wed, 21 Jul 1999 22:25:24 -0400, "Joseph V. Morris"
<jvmo...@erols.com> wrote:
>Clay,
>I seem to be missing part of this thread. Do we know if this is a Windows
>3.11 or a Windows for Workgroups 3.11 installation? WfW is much easier,
>of course and the Windows 98 Second Edition upgrade CD (at $19.98) is
>almost worth it simply for the Internet Connection Sharing that allows
>multiple PCs to access the Internet concurrently using a single phone
>line.
>There was a DOS Network client for WfW networks, but I don't know it it's
>also compatible with the Win98 peer-to-peer networks. I do recall it ate
>up available conventional memory something fierce.
>Wonder if the DOS app will run directly on the Win98 machine?
>And where the heck is Allen Barnett? He used to respond to these queries
>routinely, but I don't think I've seen him in the NG in over a month.
Clay Calvert
Gerd Roethig
On Mon, 19 Jul 1999 22:48:42 -0600 Grizz Weiler <gr...@m1.sprynet.com>
wrote :
>
>
>Billnews wrote:
>
>> I have a small peer to peer home network with two win98 machines and a win
>> 3.11machine. On the win 3.11 machine I have a DOS program that wont run in a
>> DOS window. I want to run it in DOS and manage it with the Win98 machines
>> using PC Anywhere. Can anyone give me detailed instructions on how to get
>> DOS on the network without buying any other products.
>>
>> Thank you,
>>
>> Bill
>> Bill...@bauercom.net
>
>-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>I use pcAnywhere 8.0 and 7.5 to control DOS 6.22/Win 3.11 systems using modem
>connections.
Why that complicated?
It is relatively easy to set up networking under DOS.
You'll have to do the following:
1. Get the so-called MS-Client (or MS Workgroup Addon for MS-DOS) from
ftp://ftp.microsoft.com/softlib/mslfiles/
or
ftp://ftp.gwdg.de/pub/server/msclient/dos/35/
(5 disk images)
2. If you want to enable file sharing under DOS, get
ftp://ftp.microsoft.com/softlib/mslfiles/nnet.exe
and
ftp://ftp.microsoft.com/softlib/mslfiles/netshar.exe .
3. Install the client, choose the protocol used in your network and,
of course, the appropriate driver for your network card (supplied on
the disk that came with the card under MSLANMAN.DOS or similar).
4. Upgrade the client using the files from nnet.exe (if you want to
share files) and set up your shares with NETSHARE from netshar.exe .
5. This should be everything you need to get started.
Cheers
Gerd
Clay Calvert
<jvmo...@erols.com> wrote:
>Clay,
>
>Response is in-line.
>
>> He is trying to run a DOS machine, without Windows, on his local
>> network. He's not asking about sharing an Internet connection.
>
>Yeah, okay, that was kind of gratuitous lacking the thread's original
>posting.
>>
>> All MS networking is compatible with each other. DOS clients can
>> connect to Win98, NT, and Win3.1 machines. However, you need to
>> purchase the WFW Add-On for DOS to be able to share drives and
>> printers on the DOS machine.
>
>Well, I knew WfW workstations could integrate with Win 95, Win 98, and Win
>NT, but I wasn't sure about DOS stations with the WfW Add-on for DOS.
>Still, how heavy is the network overhead for such workstations? My
>experience even with WfW was that the overhead was so high that no
>heavy-duty DOS programs could be run. Situation should be even worse for
>a pure DOS app on a pure DOS workstation.
It is rather large, but you can get just about all of it into upper
memory.
>>
>> There is a freely availabe DOS client that isn't shareable and MS
>> makes it available primarily to ease the installation of NT and Win9x
>> when there are numerous machines.
>
>Sorry, not disputing your statement, just don't understand it. Could you
>elaborate?
The DOS networking client that MicroSoft makes freely available does
not allow other computers on the network to get at the files and
printers on these machines. It is a pure client, but it can be
tricked.
MS makes this client freely available to make the 'mass production' of
new workstations easier. It is much easier to boot up a floppy from a
network capable diskette and download a cloned image onto the hard
drive, as opposed to installing everything (OS, apps, utilities) the
'normal' way.
>
>> Hopefully, since he is using
>> pcAnywhere, he won't need to share the drives, but I doubt it.
>
>I guess what concerns me here is that the original poster (whose input I
>still can't find) is using PCAnywhere as a possible solution when it may
>either be irrelevant or inappropriate (given the existence of the LAN).
>PCAnywhere is incompatible (concurrently) with some other MS apps on a
>LAN. That's what concerns me.
>
>> Another however, there is a way to trick this DOS client into being
>> able to share. This technique is listed on www.helmig.com, and yes,
>> it is a memory pig, especially if you run the full re-director.
>
>I'm starting to feel like I'm in a 'Lost in Space' episode without the
>root post. <g>
>At any rate, thanks for the response and any subsequent elaboration you
>might choose to provide.
Clay Calvert