Dell ships Proprietary copy of Win2k with new machines.
be...@natlauto.com
from microsoft and shipping there version on a Dell CD. This copy will only
load on a Dell machine. I am not sure how they did it but I know there are
several cab files that are customized and cannot be read. Looks like dell
has decided that selling a version of Win2000 is just as good as the
original. I wanted to load NT 4.0 on the new machines and load 2000 on few
other older machines for testing but since the others are not dell I cannot
load. I hope this gets out to enough people that it will stop this "Big
brother" type practice.
ROb.
Stephen Tyson
>
>Dell has taken it upon them selves to customize the original Windows 2000 os
>from microsoft and shipping there version on a Dell CD.
2000 Magazine (http://www.win2000mag.com/Articles/Content/8216_01.html)
Microsoft is requiring OEMs to provide some sort of copy protection so that an
OEM CD can only work with the system it ships with.
What's even worse is the Microsoft did not provide the vendors with the
technology to do this. So every vendor will do it differently. If I have
machines from 5 different vendors, I now have 5 different recovery processes.
The recovery CD that ships with Micron PCs, for instance, can copy files from
the i386 directory to the hard drive, but only if the disk is NOT formatted
NTFS. Once you convert to NTFS, the only recovery procedure you can use the CD
for is to completely wipe the drive and start from scratch.
It is so nice of Microsoft to give us new recovery procedures in NT 5.0 like
the recovery console, but tie the OEMs hands, so that they are useless!
Ken Hagan
If you do, you could demand that Dell give you a copy of the software
you've paid for. If not, then perhaps MS could be persuaded that Dell
are pirating Win2K. I see no "middle ground" here. If I pay for Win2K, I
expect to receive Win2K, and would take the matter up with my local
Trading Standards body if I didn't get it.
(BTW: Your list of newsgroups was too long and OE corrupted it.)
<be...@natlauto.com> wrote in message news:aE0F4.29$V2.625@client...
> Dell has taken it upon them selves to customize the original Windows 2000
os
David MacLaren
versions of 9x. Another reason why I'd never buy a brand name PC.
cnotn
was wondering if anyone had found a way around Dell's tricky CD. We are
pretty much in the same situation.
Ken Hagan <K.H...@thermoteknix.co.uk> wrote in message
news:newscache$iwofsf$fo3$1...@firewall.thermoteknix.co.uk...
> So do you have a valid licence for Win2K after you buy such a machine?
> If you do, you could demand that Dell give you a copy of the software
> you've paid for. If not, then perhaps MS could be persuaded that Dell
> are pirating Win2K. I see no "middle ground" here. If I pay for Win2K, I
> expect to receive Win2K, and would take the matter up with my local
> Trading Standards body if I didn't get it.
>
> (BTW: Your list of newsgroups was too long and OE corrupted it.)
>
> <be...@natlauto.com> wrote in message news:aE0F4.29$V2.625@client...
drake3467
cnotn wrote in message ...
>It seems as though this might be answering my questions with a question. I
>was wondering if anyone had found a way around Dell's tricky CD. We are
>pretty much in the same situation.
Here's the problem; it ain't Dell, it's MS.
>Ken Hagan <K.H...@thermoteknix.co.uk> wrote in message
>news:newscache$iwofsf$fo3$1...@firewall.thermoteknix.co.uk...
>> So do you have a valid license for Win2K after you buy such a machine?
>> If you do, you could demand that Dell give you a copy of the software
>> you've paid for. If not, then perhaps MS could be persuaded that Dell
>> are pirating Win2K.
According to MS, you -didn't- pay for Win2K; you
purchased a limited license to use Win2K on that
one machine.
OEM who deal directly with MS are now -required by
contract- to provide CDs which can only be used
on that one computer make. It's part of an idea someone
at MS had to reduce piracy.
The only way they can avoid it is by refusing to contract
directly with MS, at a significant increase in costs; not
something easy to sell to the management of an OEM
in today's competitive business arena.
Links to the original articles:
http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=00/07/20/1057244&mode=thread
http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=00/07/20/1057244&mode=thread
http://www.infoworld.com/articles/op/xml/00/05/01/000501opfoster.xml
http://www.infoworld.com/articles/op/xml/00/06/05/000605opfoster.xml
>>I see no "middle ground" here. If I pay for Win2K, I
>> expect to receive Win2K, and would take the matter up with my local
>> Trading Standards body if I didn't get it.
Please do; but be sure to mention Microsoft's
licensing scheme, the real source of the problem.
No flames please, I think it stinks too.
Gregory Phillips
OEM versions of the operating systems. (not just win2k)
This is to prevent software piracy.
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Gregory Phillips Seattle, Washington, USA greg...@home.com
Dude
been able to use the same cd to install w2k on other brand of computers.
just don't use the stupid green dell cd and you're fine... you don't need it
anyways it's just a waste of time.
"cnotn" <cn...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:i9Fd5.236$__6....@nntp1.onemain.com...
> It seems as though this might be answering my questions with a question.
I
> was wondering if anyone had found a way around Dell's tricky CD. We are
> pretty much in the same situation.
>
> Ken Hagan <K.H...@thermoteknix.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:newscache$iwofsf$fo3$1...@firewall.thermoteknix.co.uk...
> > So do you have a valid licence for Win2K after you buy such a machine?
> > If you do, you could demand that Dell give you a copy of the software
> > you've paid for. If not, then perhaps MS could be persuaded that Dell
> > are pirating Win2K. I see no "middle ground" here. If I pay for Win2K, I
> > expect to receive Win2K, and would take the matter up with my local
> > Trading Standards body if I didn't get it.
> >