DO NOT TOUCH WINDOWS XP
newton
comsumes 50 minutes to install on 1 GHz Athlon. It is a lie
that it boots faster than Win98 and WinME. It froze my system
so many times which never happened before with Win98 or WinME.
Softwares do not run on this dinosaur, including their own Internet
Explorer 6 shit. It has a crappy CD-burner software, which is
useless but will block your way. It has much more control on
your system, you need to put considerate time to clean up all the mess.
I am not sure if I could completely get rid off them.
It will just make your life hell, and going back to WinME is not easy.
BE WARNED, DO NOT BUY OR INSTALL WINDOWS XP.
Eddie Arrowsmith
a dream and is great improvement on win98SE, ME and 2K.
regards
eddie
"newton" <nb...@angelfire.com> wrote in message
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J. Allen
system today to an Asus P4T P4 1.5 with 512 mb of RDRAM. 18 seconds to boot
from post. Please post your computer specs. I have a feeling you have some
outdated crappy hardware. Do you have a 7200 RPM ATA 100 harddrive? 32mb+
video card? 256 MB of Ram (or more). Is your bios setup correctly? Do you
actually know how to troubleshoot a computer system?
Or you could go troll somewhere else.
Steve Jobz
Proves the old adage: Never give a pig a wristwatch.
firebrand
you were using ME says alot :)
"newton" <nb...@angelfire.com> wrote in message
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Doc
It may be a little slower than either of those, but it doesnt crash..unlike
98!
> comsumes 50 minutes to install on 1 GHz Athlon. It is a lie
Sounds like your hardware has a problem. Most likely badly installed by
someone who doesnt know anything about hardware.
> that it boots faster than Win98 and WinME. It froze my system
20 seconds from turning the power on to using the desktop.
> so many times which never happened before with Win98 or WinME.
Havent had one crash yet.
> Softwares do not run on this dinosaur, including their own Internet
Everything runs, including 3d modelling software and my development tools.
> Explorer 6 shit. It has a crappy CD-burner software, which is
> useless but will block your way. It has much more control on
The CD writing software is a free BONUS.. its not meant to replace full
featured software. I suppose you use Wordpad instead of a word processor??
> your system, you need to put considerate time to clean up all the mess.
> I am not sure if I could completely get rid off them.
Obviously you know *nothing* about computers, so you definately shouldnt be
installing an operating system.
Steve Walker - NG
get from cold power on to a desktop in 24 seconds (with fast ram count) on a
1.2G AMD and 512RAM, KT7a so I guess your hardware is crap and you should
either upgrade it or not install something your machine cannot run without
issues.
You also omit to say what your WinME ram like? Probably a bloated load of
crap :-)
I am much happier with XP and 2K AND it installed in 40mins on my machine at
work and just over that at home on a very similar spec machine.
Steve
Pugwash
early trial programme and found out for myself that my hardware is just
fine!! Long install time is the norm for WinNT based OS's, 1.8 GB is a drop
in the ocean now if that is the correct figure, and I use hibernate so much
it shuts down and starts up great.
"newton" <nb...@angelfire.com> wrote in message
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Nobody
The problem you have is a simple one, known as PIBCAK.
"Problem Is Between Chair And Keyboard"
//|( o )( o)|\\ - oo^^axiouS^^oo
PROPERLY.....
Mine works! :-) LOL
Shaun
such garbage based on your inabilities.
"newton" <nb...@angelfire.com> wrote in message
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//|( o )( o)|\\ - oo^^axiouS^^oo
I think xp is the best thing since sliced bread ;)
Minotaur
Your a troll or a very dumb user... buy a Macintosh!
Bill Gaytz
because the XP stands for eXPerience which YOU obviously LACK
Bill Gaytz
"newton" <nb...@angelfire.com> wrote in message
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Mark Stevens
<jalle...@starband.net> wrote:
>Must be user error (inability to follow directions). I just upgraded my
>system today to an Asus P4T P4 1.5 with 512 mb of RDRAM. 18 seconds to boot
>from post. Please post your computer specs. I have a feeling you have some
>outdated crappy hardware. Do you have a 7200 RPM ATA 100 harddrive? 32mb+
>video card? 256 MB of Ram (or more). Is your bios setup correctly? Do you
>actually know how to troubleshoot a computer system?
This guy's definitely a troll.
Even on my pathetically sub-par system (P3-550, 128Mb RAM, DMA/66 hard
drives), WinXP RC2 runs much faster than WinME on the same system and
boots from post in about 30 seconds.
I'll have upgraded before the time WinXP's released, but in the mean
time I'm glad I've got RC2 installed and have only had to go back to
WinME for 3dfx support when I need a gaming fix.
--
Mark Stevens
http://www.insertdisc.com/
Bob S
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KEVIN
great!
I do believe it is a bit of a resource hog, but
not any slower than 98 and much more stable that
ME. I didn't use win2000 as it didn't support
some of my software but XP does.
"newton" <nb...@angelfire.com> wrote in message
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om...
Josh
month of Windows XP build 2600. I'm glad I restored my Win2k system and I'll
propably give WinXP a try again after some service packs, although I will
never get used to this science fiction style interface, that can only be
partly changed. Not to mention all these blurry icons everywhere you go....
StLBluesFan
"newton" <nb...@angelfire.com> wrote in message
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SDSL reser
and takes up valuable space and install time. The windows media player
however I like..
And what takes up a lot of space is your "DLL Hell" solution. It has a
backup of all the systemfiles in case of any program overwriting it.
The shared DLL system has always been a bad idea of saving disc space, now
in the end we end up loosing a lot just to rectify the problem.
"newton" <nb...@angelfire.com> wrote in message
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M Millar
--
Regards
M Millar
ICQ: 59367262
craig5320
I have indepth first hand experience from 3.1 to Me and NT, 2000
and i've got say that XP is excellent improvement, no crashes, no problems,
runs all my software including games, no problems with any harddware (even
Me had problems with my Home NIC, but not XP).
It's faster, smoother and downright impressive.
I think it should be taken on a case by case basis though.
But this is one case that says go XP!!
Craig
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TomH
"Minotaur" <ant...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Walkndude
definitely takes the cake. I am pleased that MS has done it up right this
time although I had no major complaints about 2k..
"craig5320" <crai...@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
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Josh
I just wonder why Win2k sp2 gave me less headaches than Windows XP. It all
starts well in the beginning; runs fast, no crashes, nothing.
But then: problem with Zonealarm (latest version), active ports (latest
version), switching users (black screen with cursor), gravitity latest
version (no connection possible), ICQ wich behaved differently. I went back
to Win2000 sp2 and the same programs work again without any problems.
I will wait until the first servicepacks have arrived...
markkemp
"newton" <nb...@angelfire.com> wrote in message
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Kelvin B.
-------------------------------
"TomH" <m...@cpugeni.com> wrote:
> so why'd you use xp to post the message... are
> you the very dumb user?
RedDragon
sounds a lot like the ID.10.T error.
Clif
--
Clif Holcomb
Nashville, TN
Windows XP RC2 2526
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Andrew Barbaro
"newton" <nb...@angelfire.com> wrote in message
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> It is way slower than WinME and Win98, eats 1.8 GByte hard disk,
> comsumes 50 minutes to install on 1 GHz Athlon. It is a lie
> that it boots faster than Win98 and WinME. It froze my system
> so many times which never happened before with Win98 or WinME.
> Softwares do not run on this dinosaur, including their own Internet
> Explorer 6 shit. It has a crappy CD-burner software, which is
> useless but will block your way. It has much more control on
> your system, you need to put considerate time to clean up all the mess.
> I am not sure if I could completely get rid off them.
> It will just make your life hell, and going back to WinME is not easy.
>
> BE WARNED, DO NOT BUY OR INSTALL WINDOWS XP.
In my opinion, and no offence whatsover is intended:
You have installed it over a 2 year old copy of Windows 98. Your previous
operating system has spent that 2 years having installations,
uninstallations, putting on AV software, taking it off, crammed it full of
games and utilities and then
installed XP. It took ages to install. It pushed the upgrade to XP side to
the limits. It's a miricle it finished at all but I bet you had to power
down a few times when things stopped.
But you're there now. It's working. Just.
Try again. FDISK etc and boot from a CD.
Regards
Andrew.
newton
It was three paragraph, so I can put it together again. But, I am
really pissed.
I got a IBM NetVista P4 system with 256 RDRAM, that's why I upgraded
to WindowsXP. I was under the very wrong impression that Windows XP
would run better. I installed both with upgrade and clean install,
there is no difference. I will switch back to WinME today or tomorrow,
as soon as I find time.
I forgot to add the same bizarre behaviour some of you observed, it
takes hell a lot long time to shut down the system.
I use Win2K at work, and it never crashed on me, although it is slower
than Win98 and WinME. I would prefer Win2K over WinXP, but again Win2K
has compatibility problems with the softwares I use at home. I used
Linux, Solaris, Be, Win95/98/ME/2K/XP. As you see, I have some
experience, maybe more than most of you.
One of you said it took 40 minutes to install WinXP, WinME takes 20
minutes to install, Win98 is even shorter. I do not know why you are
mocking me.
I never got problem launching 3-4 DOS boxes at a time. The only
problem I used to see a few times is DOS box was creating problem with
32-bit applications.
I used as many as 320MB RAM on Win98, what are you talking about?
I am not lying, do you people work for Microsoft? You know what I am
saying is right.
smallwonders-99
with XP the problem is either you or your computer. And my simple proof is
this. I have a modest system 750mghz athlon 256mb ram nothin fancy, generic
parts, and NO professional training. Installation of windows XP as an
upgrade from ME took about 24 minutes no snags crashes locks or anything
else. All I had to do was install updated/Win2000 drivers.
The only time my computer ever locked up was when I got a virus wich
was extremely rare and only happened when downloading a large volume of
stuff from the internet because I run and maintain nortan antivirus. I
don't mean to flame, but people need to learn how to maintain their
computers and drivers before they bad mouth computer and software
manufacturers. If you were to install on a cleanly formatted harddrive, say
WinME for example, there are over 2 hours of downloads before it is patched
and ready to go. (56k) Add drivers you're talking a solid 3 hours before
you've got it all patched.
Before you flame a company that makes a quality product you should
make sure you aren't the root of the problem.
"RedDragon" <red...@Not4U.com> wrote in message
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Casca
I'll never understand why ANYONE would upgrade. That is just asking
for trouble. There is no way an upgrade would be just as fast or
efficient as a clean install. If you don't want to format and install
from a freshly formatted hard drive, at least move all your important
documents, saved files, etc., to another drive or a safe folder,
delete the windows, program files directory from the hard drive, wipe
out the system files from the root, and then install from the cd.
I would like someone to tell me why they'd upgrade rather than a clean
install.
willywonka
Upgrading is fine as long as the folks that are doing it don't fucking
complain about the problems that arise when they do.
Daykin
problems, aside frmo the fact that admittedly, yes, it is quite resource
hungry......i have not experienced problems similar to the ones you describe
What is your system specs ?
Daykin
"//|( o )( o)|\\ - oo^^axiouS^^oo" <ma...@idontwann.com> wrote in message
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Andrew Barbaro
> Upgrading is fine as long as the folks that are doing it don't fucking
> complain about the problems that arise when they do.
>
Word!
Josh
> interesting, ive been using corporate edition for 1 1/2 mnths now, and no
> problems, aside frmo the fact that admittedly, yes, it is quite resource
> hungry......i have not experienced problems similar to the ones you
describe
That doesn't mean that others can't have these problems
Lonewolf
"Josh" <jfie...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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Carl Nimitz
> All you have to do is go back to normal interface through Display
Hey, I'm NOT stupid! I know that. But the fact is, that it only changes part
of the interface, I'm still stuck with ugly blurry system icons everywhere,
that I need to replace by hand
newton
on Google, you will find lots of complaints. Anyway, I just wanted
to warn others. When people start using it extensively, we will
figure out who is right.
Casca
Well, I've used it extensively. Everything I used with ME/2000 works
fine with it. In fact, I'm putting programs on I seldom used that gave
me trouble with 2000...they work fine.
CD-burning programs work, games work. I've a simple setup....only
cards in there are an intel nic card, aiw radeon, built in sound on an
intel mobo.
Maybe I'm just one of the lucky ones.
Of COURSE there will be complaints. There are a lot of people who have
no idea how to use their computer and are constantly fiddling with
things they shouldnt. User errors, most likely.
I'm not saying the os is absolutely 100% perfect. I think compared to
MS's previous operating systems, this is the best and most perfect out
of them all.
Pascal Bouquet
my aptiva 500 Mhz and WinMe runs speedly but is crashing after a night of
downloading files... So what to do !..... that's my problem... ;o) I can't
buy a new pc soon !!!
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newton
by Microsoft, you would be decent enought to notice there are so many
problems reported related to Windows XP.
WinME boots in 30 secs, WinXP boots in 70 secs on PIII 750Mhz 320MB RAM.
You prove me wrong, or otherwise shut the fuck up. Looser! How much
Microsoft stock do you own?
Here is someone's hanging problem:
>> When I upgrade from Win ME to XP the comp restarts, presents the winxp
>> loading screen then hangs back to the video bios and hangs there..
>> Abit KT7A WW bios (suspicious about the mobo, anyone else successful
>> with it?)
>> Athlon 1.4 Ghz
>> Abit Geforce 2 mx g card
>> 256mb Corsair PC150 ram
>> 8 gig crappy Seagate HD
Here is someone's pain using WinXP:
> But Booting from either a cold/warm boot was like sitting in a doctors
> waiting room boringly slow. It would take about 2 full mins sometimes
> slightly more to get from p.o.s.t screen to desktop, is this normal ?
> I've had to uninstall and go back to Win ME (which has no problem)as
> XP to umbridge at either the driver or my Asus Geforce2 Gts gfx card
> (probably driver as it was untested by MS) and decided to lock me out.
> I will look for a alternative driver but I'm reluctant to put it back
> on because of sloww bootup times. I may even take it back to the shop
> and tell them they sold me a caput copy.
>
> What is a normal bootup time for XP ?
> My machine is a Asus A7V266 rev 1.06 mobo, 256 mb ddr ram, Duron 900
> cpu, Asus Geforce 2 Gts gfx card, 30 gig ibm 7200rpm hd so I think
> that's more than ample to run it.
"StLBluesFan" <danbro...@swbell.net> wrote in message news:<uyiZ86SPBHA.1764@tkmsftngp05>...
newton
your ass. Deny my remarks with proofs mother fucker.
I thought Mac users were the cult. I am glad my
work does not rely to any OS. Windows, Mac, Linux, Be
are all shit.
Steve Jobz <x...@y.com> wrote in message news:<r7a3qtsaov75m0rub...@4ax.com>...
> Having a bad day, Bunkie?
>
> Proves the old adage: Never give a pig a wristwatch.
>
Nick Le Lievre
upgrading machines that weren`t totally compatible or installing programs,
drivers that aren`t recommended.
WinXP is a great operating system it combines the best of WinME with the
best of Windows 2000 and adds new and for once usefull features and then
there`s messenger - I think I`ll stick with ICQ.
Just my $ 215.83 cents
"newton" <nb...@angelfire.com> wrote in message
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Nick Le Lievre
> Eat my dick,
No Thanks
if you like WinXP so much, shuffle it to
> your ass.
Again No Thanks
Deny my remarks with proofs mother fucker.
I don`t deny your a poof
> I thought Mac users were the cult. I am glad my
> work does not rely to any OS. Windows, Mac, Linux, Be
> are all shit.
If your happy using DOS then fuck you.
C@bleguy
viva XP
On Tue, 18 Sep 2001 20:45:26 +0100, "Nick Le Lievre" <nl...@ecosse.net>
wrote:
Natalie
like acting like it? if you CAN'T setup your computer to work properly, then
don't have a sook about the OS to other people, and you know if you keep
doing that, then you're gonna get bitch slapped, you ever said that shit to
me i'd bitch slap you. And your "experience" which i must add is soooo
superb, im thinking either you're 12, or you're new to this, yes i count
someone who has been using Windows ONLY from '95 as being new. Why not
install Windows 3.1 better yet find a copy of Gem, get that fucker running
(or get your mummy to help you install it) and you wont have to worry about
your slow bootup times, cause it'll boot in about 15 seconds.
Natalie
"newton" <nb...@angelfire.com> wrote in message
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Ethan McKay
Would you mind using English in your next tantrum?
Ethan
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Richard
aladin?
"newton" <nb...@angelfire.com> wrote in message
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Nick Le Lievre
Microsoft work hard to improve technology which will ultimately improve our
productivity and indeed lives. They spend a lot of time and indeed money
doing the donkey`s work of either writing drivers or working closely with
the many many hundreds if not thousands of manufacturers for what is a huge
backlog of hardware in order to get drivers incorporated into the latest
operating system as standard.
Some companies however go out of business are impossible to find or just
have not yet got round to assisting Microsoft in writing drivers for their
new operating system some will never as they don`t have the resources to do
so - when you buy hardware one factor must always be support a $2 network
card from a 2 bit company probably won`t have XP drivers out at launch or
indeed at all - but if it isn`t supported Microsoft compatibility program
will give you fair warning.
Microsoft have done very well in XP better than ever before my laptop now
has all drivers included as standard 98/2000/ME required downloads from HP`s
site.
All this and you get idiots who blame Microsoft when after ignoring warnings
there system doesn`t work right.
Ones that
"Natalie" <p...@optushome.com.au> wrote in message
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Shy Writer \( Gregarious Zeitgeist in Verbiage \) ©
Do you kiss your mother with that mouth??? *plonk*
"newton" <nb...@angelfire.com> wrote in message news:29b8b65a.0109...@posting.google.com...
Ivan Smith
"Nick Le Lievre" <nl...@ecosse.net> wrote in message
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> All of these problems can be regarding as trivial - most can be put down
to
> upgrading machines that weren`t totally compatible or installing programs,
> drivers that aren`t recommended.
>
> WinXP is a great operating system it combines the best of WinME with the
> best of Windows 2000 and adds new and for once usefull features and then
> there`s messenger - I think I`ll stick with ICQ.
Well I hate it. I hate the way it works and I hate the way it looks - The
interface is a digusting piece of OS-X wannabe crap IMO.
Talk about losing control of the machine.
I'm sticking to Win2000 thanks.
Ivan
Sir_George
Thank you for sharing.
Sir_George
"Ivan Smith" <ivsm...@hotmail.com.nx> wrote in message news:6GTp7.68101$bY5.3...@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
Marvin da Martian
has improved consideraby for users who are using win2000 which obviously u
havent used b4. Feel free to continue to use the less stable n crash prone
windows
As for those who dont like the look .. u can simply switch to classic
windows look n dont worry about the luna.
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Morgoth
it more before flaming it.
Admittedly you have to take off the "fur coat and frilly knickers" before it
begins to look more like an OS rather than some games console Front End -
but it's worth it.
As for the comment by Nick about combining the best bits of ME and win2k -
erm didn't know there were any redeeming features of ME ?
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>
Morgoth
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"Morgoth" <cogda...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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W.C. Fields
> Would you mind using English in your next tantrum?
Typical American act, correcting the English of a foreigner who speaks more
languages than you will ever be capable of to learn...
W.C. Fields
> hehe :)
Weird sense of humor you have
W.C. Fields
> Do you kiss your mother with that mouth??? *plonk*
"Plonk"......hahahahaha now that's humor, as if he really cares man
hahahahahahahahaha
Julian S Visch
|> You obviously don't know what you're doing. Please, don't bother posting
|> such garbage based on your inabilities.
Seems to me that you are all blaming him, OSs these days should be easy to
install, so why isn't it?
They should be able to handle new and old hardware, clearly it isn't.
--
Julian Visch
Email: j.v...@inet.net.nz
Web: http://www.inet.net.nz/~j.visch
Julian S Visch
I have read the same, but people here seem over defensive.
Julian S Visch
|>
|> I'll never understand why ANYONE would upgrade. That is just asking
|> for trouble. There is no way an upgrade would be just as fast or
|> efficient as a clean install. If you don't want to format and install
|> from a freshly formatted hard drive, at least move all your important
|> documents, saved files, etc., to another drive or a safe folder,
|> delete the windows, program files directory from the hard drive, wipe
|> out the system files from the root, and then install from the cd.
|> I would like someone to tell me why they'd upgrade rather than a clean
|> install.
Because some of us do a lot of configuration and we don't want to go through
the process each release hence we just upgrade.
Julian S Visch
|> I'm sorry, but that is just nuts! If you are having that much trouble
|> with XP the problem is either you or your computer. And my simple proof is
|> this. I have a modest system 750mghz athlon 256mb ram nothin fancy, generic
|> parts, and NO professional training. Installation of windows XP as an
|> upgrade from ME took about 24 minutes no snags crashes locks or anything
|> else. All I had to do was install updated/Win2000 drivers.
Sounds to me like if you use generic parts you are fine but if you don't
you are stuffed.
Julian S Visch
|> You have installed it over a 2 year old copy of Windows 98. Your previous
|> operating system has spent that 2 years having installations,
|> uninstallations, putting on AV software, taking it off, crammed it full of
|> games and utilities and then
|>
|> installed XP. It took ages to install. It pushed the upgrade to XP side to
|> the limits. It's a miricle it finished at all but I bet you had to power
|> down a few times when things stopped.
None of that should matter, with linux you can upgrade with no problem.
|> But you're there now. It's working. Just.
|>
|> Try again. FDISK etc and boot from a CD.
In other words MS did a poor job.
Natalie
what do you have to do? boot from the cdrom and answer questions a 10 year
old can answer.
Natalie
"Julian S Visch" <mat...@math.canterbury.ac.nz> wrote in message
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Natalie
Microsoft has ever brought out?
Natalie
"Julian S Visch" <mat...@math.canterbury.ac.nz> wrote in message
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radical dragon
> You shouldn't be using a computer if you can't install Windows, cause
really
> what do you have to do? boot from the cdrom and answer questions a 10 year
> old can answer.
then its everyman/woman for themselves:-) Not everyone in the world either
has all the latest kit or lives in the USA.. Both of which can cause upsets
to users just putting the cd in their drives and answering number, rank and
name:-)
And if users 'chose' the upgrade path, it doesnt always work 100%.. although
thats hardly surprising:-)
I fail to see why some people just 'have' to believe that nothing done by
Miscrosoft is ever faulty or slighty screwed up.. A quick look at why MS
update actually exists will tell them that even MS know that NOONE ever
gets it 100% right 100% of the time.. If people have problems then why
shouldnt they have a moan, if nothing else they probably feel better
afterwards:-)
Cheers,
RD
LarC
<dra...@dragonland.co.uk> pondered exceedingly, then took quill in
hand and composed:
>I fail to see why some people just 'have' to believe that nothing done by
>Miscrosoft is ever faulty or slighty screwed up...
They are actually droids! But other OS makers have their droids too.
There are Mac droids, Linux droids and there are even OS2 droids.
Since droids are programmed and really can't think for themselves, it
is usually best to ignore them. ;-)
Larc
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Peter & Emma
speak the language, American or otherwise. "...ever be capable of to
learn..."? How old are you?
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Peter & Emma
"Nobody" <jun...@nowhere.invalid> wrote in message
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> On 13 Sep 2001 23:39:28 -0700, nb...@angelfire.com (newton) wrote:
>
> >It is way slower than WinME and Win98, eats 1.8 GByte hard disk,
> >comsumes 50 minutes to install on 1 GHz Athlon. It is a lie
> >that it boots faster than Win98 and WinME. It froze my system
> >so many times which never happened before with Win98 or WinME.
> >Softwares do not run on this dinosaur, including their own Internet
> >Explorer 6 shit. It has a crappy CD-burner software, which is
> >useless but will block your way. It has much more control on
> >your system, you need to put considerate time to clean up all the mess.
> >I am not sure if I could completely get rid off them.
> >It will just make your life hell, and going back to WinME is not easy.
> >
> >BE WARNED, DO NOT BUY OR INSTALL WINDOWS XP.
>
> The problem you have is a simple one, known as PIBCAK.
>
> "Problem Is Between Chair And Keyboard"
>
Peter & Emma
You cannot slate an OS for having blurry icons... can you?
"Carl Nimitz" <cni...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>
> > All you have to do is go back to normal interface through Display
>
> Hey, I'm NOT stupid! I know that. But the fact is, that it only changes
part
> of the interface, I'm still stuck with ugly blurry system icons
everywhere,
> that I need to replace by hand
>
>
Peter & Emma
boots faster than all previous OS, based on same properly configured
hardware.
"newton" <nb...@angelfire.com> wrote in message
Mike Noren
>> The problem you have is a simple one, known as PIBCAK.
>>
>> "Problem Is Between Chair And Keyboard"
I thought it was SBK. Shit Behind the Keyboard.
Julian S Visch
|> You shouldn't be using a computer if you can't install Windows, cause really
|> what do you have to do? boot from the cdrom and answer questions a 10 year
|> old can answer.
|>
|> Natalie
|>
|> "Julian S Visch" <mat...@math.canterbury.ac.nz> wrote in message
|> news:9odt6v$3nm$1...@cantuc.canterbury.ac.nz...
|> > In article <edThSePPBHA.2080@tkmsftngp05>, "Shaun" <sh...@haha.nope.com>
|> writes:
|> > |> You obviously don't know what you're doing. Please, don't bother
|> posting
|> > |> such garbage based on your inabilities.
|> >
|> > Seems to me that you are all blaming him, OSs these days should be easy to
|> > install, so why isn't it?
|> > They should be able to handle new and old hardware, clearly it isn't.
That only works if your computer adheres to MS standard, if not, you are
screwed.
Nobody
wrote:
>I thought it was SBK. Shit Behind the Keyboard.
Actually I blew it, its PEBCAK
"Problem Exists Between Chair And Keyboard"
^^^^^^^
Peter & Emma
1D10T
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Voodoo
system...
It's probably one of 2 things..
[1] An "ID-10-T" Error
or
[2] PEBKAC
Most likely it's the second "PEBKAC" scenario... " PEBKAC ---- Problem
exists between keyboard and chair "
V.
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Julian S Visch
Or you don't understand the situation.
For example I had great problems installing an OS on one computer, no end
of problems. My friend wanted the same OS on his machine, it installed first
time with no problems.
Morgoth
grammatically correct, sentence - not likely :)
begone j00 Tr011 :P
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>
Dipak Uttamlal
"Julian S Visch" <mat...@math.canterbury.ac.nz> wrote in message
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Julian S Visch
|> > |> > Seems to me that you are all blaming him, OSs these days should be
|> easy to
|> > |> > install, so why isn't it?
|> > |> > They should be able to handle new and old hardware, clearly it isn't.
|> >
|> > That only works if your computer adheres to MS standard, if not, you are
|> > screwed.
|> So why don't you PISS OFF to Linux OS and see how friendly that OS is!
I know the strengths and weakenesses of both, hardware can cause problems
on either.
Alien
Is that because a lot of the problems associated with earlier versions of
Windows are scone? :-)
Alien
Now if only ATI would hurry up & release their Radeon 64MB DDR ViVo
drivers..........
Alien
what the fuck is wrong with you? are you mentally retarded, or do you just
like acting like it? if you CAN'T setup your computer to work properly, then
don't have a sook about the OS to other people, and you know if you keep
doing that, then you're gonna get bitch slapped, you ever said that shit to
me i'd bitch slap you. And your "experience" which i must add is soooo
superb, im thinking either you're 12, or you're new to this, yes i count
someone who has been using Windows ONLY from '95 as being new. Why not
install Windows 3.1 better yet find a copy of Gem, get that fucker running
(or get your mummy to help you install it) and you wont have to worry about
your slow bootup times, cause it'll boot in about 15 seconds.
</Natalie>
WOW! a female who is not only feisty, but knows how to install Windows as
well??? I think I need to go take a cold shower! :-)
LOL
Dave
:)
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Alien
she said Gem. oooh.
:)
</Dave>
<fx: gives Dave blank look>
Don't think I've ever heard of it.
Alien
ThE SlAyER
then i have to use a graphics blaster,(4 crappy meg)news:as3w7.35057$jE3.3...@news6-win.server.ntlworld.com...
Jefferson Tarn
it's a precursor to windows.
Jefferson
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Alien
YOU USED TO USE GEM!!!!!!!!
it's a precursor to windows.
</Jefferson>
I know the PC that you're referring to, but IIRC the only interaction I had
with GEM or whatever ot was [I always thought it was windows 3.0, but then I
was still a PC newbie back then (about 12 years ago I think) ] was to know
how to exit it & get back to DOS so I could play Xenon2, or The Monuments of
Mars.
Alien
simonb22
"Julian S Visch" <mat...@math.canterbury.ac.nz> wrote in message
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Maybe the Linux upgrade is a piece of piss because an operating system
that's written by hundreds of people, in little bits, has an upgrade path
that just replaces the bits that have changed, not the WHOLE thing?
As for problems, yeah sure, with the BETA versions of XP there are driver
issues - but the one thing I've been looking for drivers for since my
install is available pre release - just bear in mind that no drivers exist
for this particular device (a graphics tablet) in Linux, and they are
unlikely ever to. Don't use it for graphics though - only to avoid further
injury to my hand after years using MacOS and Windows.
WindowsXP and Linux are two totally diverse products - 1 is easy to install,
runs reliably regardless of configuration, anyone can use, the other is
still for geeks and technical genius'.
I'm a hardware consultant and software engineer, I'm not a geek, therefore I
don't use Linux despite it coming free with much of the hardware I buy.
Can be bothered to respond to the comment about a poor job my Microsoft...
waste of breath trying to explain the difference between an operating system
that does for 99% of the population and one that works for a few who either
wrote their own drivers, or were lucky enough to buy the right hardware.
simonb22
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> Up until the time XP finds something its not been programmed to cope with,
> then its everyman/woman for themselves:-) Not everyone in the world either
> has all the latest kit or lives in the USA.. Both of which can cause
upsets
> to users just putting the cd in their drives and answering number, rank
and
> name:-)
>
> And if users 'chose' the upgrade path, it doesnt always work 100%..
although
> thats hardly surprising:-)
> I fail to see why some people just 'have' to believe that nothing done by
> Miscrosoft is ever faulty or slighty screwed up.. A quick look at why MS
> update actually exists will tell them that even MS know that NOONE ever
> gets it 100% right 100% of the time.. If people have problems then why
> shouldnt they have a moan, if nothing else they probably feel better
> afterwards:-)
> Cheers,
> RD
>
might be justified... Why not wait until the release versions are available
(even Release Candidates can be changed before release to manufacturing,
they are afterall just that - candidates).
Chris Severance
<jeffers...@ntlworld.com> wrote:
>YOU USED TO USE GEM!!!!!!!!
>
>it's a precursor to windows.
I wouldn't call GEM a precursor to windows. I recall it being
developed afterwards as an alternative after Windows got pretty
bloated and unreliable. GEM was super small and found a short niche in
handheld devices.
Julian S Visch
|> As for problems, yeah sure, with the BETA versions of XP there are driver
|> issues - but the one thing I've been looking for drivers for since my
|> install is available pre release - just bear in mind that no drivers exist
|> for this particular device (a graphics tablet) in Linux, and they are
|> unlikely ever to.
Where did you get that idea from? A friend of mine uses graphics tablets on
Linux.
|> Don't use it for graphics though - only to avoid further
|> injury to my hand after years using MacOS and Windows.
|> WindowsXP and Linux are two totally diverse products - 1 is easy to install,
|> runs reliably regardless of configuration, anyone can use, the other is
|> still for geeks and technical genius'.
So you are saying windows is only for geeks and technical geniuses, interesting.
|> I'm a hardware consultant and software engineer, I'm not a geek, therefore I
|> don't use Linux despite it coming free with much of the hardware I buy.
Sounds like you looked once at linux years ago and assumed things would stay
the same, they haven't.
|> Can be bothered to respond to the comment about a poor job my Microsoft...
|> waste of breath trying to explain the difference between an operating system
|> that does for 99% of the population and one that works for a few who either
|> wrote their own drivers, or were lucky enough to buy the right hardware.
Then why are 99% of the population unhappy with their OS?
As for hardware, I am betting MS could not even handle my keyboard.
MS also requires you to buy the right hardware because if the company folds
you are stuffed, MS won't write the drivers.
Granted my printer does not work as well as I would like but that is just a
matter of time until further drivers are written, if all else fails I will pay
someone to write them, can't do that with windows.
Michael Just
population unhappy with their OS?" ?
I hope you can name a source, because without one you've seriously
undermined your own credibility.
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simonb22
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Julian S Visch
|> I'm curious as to where you gound your statistic "Then why are 99% of the
|> population unhappy with their OS?" ?
|> I hope you can name a source, because without one you've seriously
|> undermined your own credibility.
I base it on all the complaints I hear from its users, so you are happy
whenever you get machine locks, and BSODs?
Michael Just
First, since you are only remarking regarding your own personal experience,
its unlikely that you can speak with regards to "99% of the population". No
matter how many people you know, its not statistically significant enough to
predict the entire population.
Second is something called "Squeaky Wheel Syndrome". People complain when
things go wrong. But when things are working well, as they should be,
people just expect this to be the norm (as they should) and don't say
anything. Basically, people don't radomly post "I've been running for 30
days with no errors!" because the expect the operating system to do this.
And for the record, I have been operating for well over 30 days now without
error.
Basically, you've been stating your opinion as though it was fact. I
personally believe everyone has the right to their opinion, and I wouldn't
ask you for a moment to stop posting yours. However, for the sake of
everyone reading these newsgroups I would ask, politely, that you separate
fact from opinion, and take the time to create a truly thought provoking
post.
This is, of course, all in my opinion. Others may disagree with me, others
may think I'm a long winded jerk. But I'm in America, a land that praises
personal opinion and individuality, and I will state my opinion with the
full confidence that it is truly what I believe.
Would anyone else like to state thier opinion?
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Kentor
can't get Visual Studio 6 Enterprise to install!!!! If anyone can help
I sure would appreciate it.
Ken R.
zr...@hotmail.com
On Tue, 9 Oct 2001 22:17:42 -0500, "Michael Just" <mpj...@anon.com>
wrote: