XP, or not to XP
BH
OS is missing key drivers for some major hardware.
In just 20 minutes of using the full version of XP on my new laptop I
was able to crash the OS so bad that when it restarted it begged me to
send data (a minidump) to Microsoft so they could fix it for the
future. Do I feel like a beta tester? Yeap, and I do not even get
paid..
XP is a pretty cool OS for eye candy. Reminds me of a MAC, but one
should wait until the first service patch is released.. Until then...
98/ME/2000 is the way to go, unless you want to venture into LINUX.
Redhat or Mandrake is the way to go due to a new form of GUI install
(just like windows)- according to zdnet and cnet.
XP is almost up to what LINUX has to offer. I may look into LINUX. I
think there may be a learning curve but I am really tired of being
Microsofts b*tch.
How do you want to be forced to be a beta tester today?
Dave
beta tester :)
The 'minidump' happens whenever software crashes. You can easily turn that
off. May I ask if you installed some non-certified drivers on your
notebook? I run XP on my notebook (P3-500, 128mb ram, 8meg ati) and it runs
fine. It has run every build of XP that I've put on there without issues.
I don't want to sound rude, but there's a little bit more to installing an
OS than just clicking the install button.
The fact that you're posting in Microsoft newsgroups, going on about how
good Linux is begs the question - are you trolling? :)
And when Linux can actually have a stable, good-looking GUI like Microsoft
has pioneered, and when you don't have to type 'make install' or wrestle
with RPMs and dependencies, it might get a look in. It's worth mentioning
that XP supports a fully-hardware accelerated GUI. It would also need to
stop being so damned fussy with hardware. You say that XP has a problem
because it doesn't have all your drivers? What do you expect? Wait until
it's released, then you might have some luck. I find it hard to believe
that your Linux installation has all the drivers you need for all your
hardware :) I have found the robustness of XP truly amazing. System
restore points are a great idea, and they have been implemented with great
skill. I installed a tweaking util for my graphics card, but the drivers
I'm using (latest detonators) don't work with that software, and my PC would
get a fuzzy display when it was running XP. A simple hit of the F8 key at
bootup gave me many different options on how to fix it. I simply hit VGA
mode (not even safe mode - takes the same amount of time to boot) and
removed the app. One reboot later, and it's all fine and working properly.
I must also point out that for your one condemning report on XP, there must
be thousands of people who are happy. I know of many. :)
Good luck, and I'm sure your computer will work eventually.
Dave
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AnonEmouse
(trial) which was written and released before XP came out. I suspect many
software problems account for a large number of crashes in XP. With the run
options (compatibility) available in XP it pays to persevere before you
complain!
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BH
I just need to be productive and not one who needs to test OS software
for a company that makes more money then I will ever see in a
lifetime.
I have never used LINUX but I can understand why people in the
millions are trying it. For your insight into the LINUX OS I would
research your position again. From what I read on ZDNET and CNET LINUX
is up to the install task that Windows is presently. Drivers, Config,
and other gee-wiz is all there.
Once again I look forward to using my XP that came on my laptop, but I
would never buy it. I installed ME and 2000 so I could not worry about
things working. I need to work and play, not beta test software and
send mini-dumps to Microsoft. I will try XP again (after the first
service pack) once they get the software support and hardware drivers
out and available. Until then XP is no better then using an Amiga
computer.
Hint.. Amiga should tell you how far I go back. Amiga.. That was a
true multitasking computer system, but it found its grave in the world
of electronics.
Amiga.com
ThE SlAyER
that should have been binned....keep with the times and xp is fine...i have
multiple monitors two moodems two tv cards,,three graphics cards,,,,512 meg
ram...scanner printer digital camera,,,cordless keyboard...optical mouse
(usb)..zip drive....and a cable connection to my spare pc....and it all
works fine...
John Capriotti
> Well, since XP's not going to be released until the 25th, I guess you are
a
> beta tester :)
OEMs, Gold Partners, and Select customers have had XP for a while. You've
been able to buy a PC with XP for a while. The 25th date is hardly a
release date, it's only the day you can by the boxed product.
Dave
product legitimately? :)
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Michael Thomas
>I have never used LINUX but I can understand why people in the
>millions are trying it. For your insight into the LINUX OS I would
>research your position again. From what I read on ZDNET and CNET LINUX
>is up to the install task that Windows is presently. Drivers, Config,
>and other gee-wiz is all there.
Linux isn't the best choice for client machines, though it is getting
better. Its strengths lie in the server end. Anyone who plans on
setting up an internet server or an office SMB file server to mimic an
NT4 domain controller should consider using Linux. The software is
free, but your time isn't and be ready to use a lot if it. Also
prepare for a huge learning curve digging up information never meant
for the casual computer user to understand, let alone implement. This
is not a double-click-on-the-icon-and-walk-away OS. Even after you
figure out how to install it, which unless you use the easy .rpm
package route is almost enough to bring most to tears, you still have
tons of command line configuration and script file editing to get the
thing to work. While it's not designed for the weak of heart, it's
free, you won't enter serial numbers for it, and if you are an avid
computer geek who has mastered windows and wants a new challenge, you
most certainly will be challenged.
I have both at home, and they both serve their purposes very well. My
Redhat 7.1 Linux box runs as a intranet router for my 3 PCs, along
with SMB file server (samba), mail server (qmail), and web server
(apache). No, I'm not showing off. It was hard and it still is hard
as I have to work with it at least a couple of times a week to be able
to remember it. Think command line everything...DOS before windows.
It sits where most everyone's Linux box should sit,...in my stairwell
closet connected to my DSL. I use SSH to connect to the machine from
my windows boxes and the internet to administer it. See why Linux
isn't going to replace my desktop windows machines? That's right. No
monitor, no GUI! Besides, gaming sucks on Linux, though I never tried
Quake3 for Linux. No monitor, no gaming...
My personal client machine is currently running win2k and my kids
machine is on 98se. I have a company laptop running win2k I use at
home to tunnel into the companys intranet for work purposes (ok, I
tend to goof off surfing the internet while watching TV, too...). I
am lurking here in this newsgroup because I am the IT rep for my
workgroup and I will be installing/configuring XP on test machines
very soon, and newsgroups are usually a great place to get
information.
Cheers,
MT