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smerf

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Dec 10, 2006, 11:55:48 PM12/10/06
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Besides the obvious fact that the web is run by a mish-mash of patches
that make it do things it was never intended to do in the first place, why
is the design and deployment of simple websites so damned difficult?

If Santa come out of his drunken stupor while you're around, please tell him
that I want the following.......

I'd like a website designer that.....

- has a widgets panel full of things like calendars, header, column and
footer widgets, scrolling text boxes, bread crumb trail widgets, navigation
widgets, real time date/time widgets, rss feed widgets, a google adsense
widget, rotating ad/image widgets, email form widgets, search widgets (both
site and web), those neat little rounded corner panels in a widget and lots
of 3rd party companies ready to sell me thousands of more widgets. You
should be able to drag and drop columns and widgets on a web page canvas
just like you did with controls on a form in VB.

- I want to be able to see things display in real time on my canvas the way
they will display in the browser ( you know, like the way a word doc
displays in real time as you edit the word document) When I drop a widget
in my web page canvas, I want to see it like the surfers will see it - none
of that placeholder crap.

- I want to be ale to edit anything that I drop on the canvas right where
it is and see my changes in real time on the canvas the way the end surfer
will see it.

- I want to be able to click, drag and select one or more objects on the
canvas and give them a name - automatically grouping them and treating them
as a single entity for CSS editing.

- I want CSS editing of my widgets and such to be dumbed down and simple.
Give me a properties list. Do software developers really expect me to know
all of the properties that could be editable on a particular object? I'm
doing good just knowing where I am most days.

- Along with those property listings, for each one I need drop downs or
color pallets or whatever will help me choose valid values for the property.
Remember, my goal is to publish good looking, standards based web pages -
not to master CSS, XML, XHTML or whatever other God-forsaken alphabetic hell
some group proposes next.

- I want to be able to click to add another main level page or page beneath
the one I am currently working on. When that happens, I expect all of my
navigation (site wide) to be undated automatically for me and I expect the
new page to have things like the header, footer and navigation already added
when I see it on my canvas the first time.

- In short, I want a real WISYWIG web page development tool that lets me
concentrate on what I do best - content development and visual design.

I don't get paid to know all of the inner workings of the web, CSS, ASP,
ASP.Net, PHP or any of that crap. I get paid to deliver great looking,
functional sites on time. And, right now, every tool that I have tried
actually works against me in that goal.

So, sober up Santa! I need a website designer for website
designers....not for programmers.

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Smerf
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smerf

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Dec 11, 2006, 12:59:46 AM12/11/06
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As sad as this is......Blue Voda is the closest thing that I have found to a
true drag and drop WYSIWYG web page editor that I have found.
(http://www.bluevoda.com)

Now, if someone could do this slightly more professionally........(by that I
mean keep the simple interface and add widgets and 3rd party widgets and
such).

It's not that I am opposed to high powered programs....its just that they
are overkill for most small web projects and fall short for most web-based
applications. Honestly, I don't know what they are really much good
for....I just think there is nothing better out there - so people use what
they have.

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Brandon

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Dec 11, 2006, 11:36:17 AM12/11/06
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Good list . . . I don't know if I would fully go with something too "canned"
but I can see that the need exists for something like this.

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Brandon

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Dec 11, 2006, 11:47:31 AM12/11/06
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This looks similar to the old Drumbeat web design software which Macromedia
bought out years ago, but apparently never did anything with it.

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Mike Koewler

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Dec 11, 2006, 2:22:11 PM12/11/06
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Why stop here? Why not a Add in DTP capabilities, so I can select the
images, articles and clipart I want, as well as the number of pages,
then press a key and the pages are finished. It also needs an image
editor - one that I don't need to know the difference between R, G, B,
C, M, Y and K. Why I should need to know a thing about levels, dot gain,
contract, transparency. Put the image on the page and make it look
perfect. And make the resolution is perfect so it looks great and loads
immediately.
Let's not forget about sound and movies. I should be able to insert a CD
or tape into the computer, hit a different key and the file is not only
created, but all the noise is removed and the code added so a visitor
doesn't have to worry about anything but sitting back and listening.

The code it creates needs be be such that it works on IE, Mozilla,
Opera, Safari, Avant and all other browsers, plus is 100 percent with
screen readers. It also needs a method to make sure my site in ranked
first in every search engine.

That should take care of most of my needs.

Oh, and it should be either a free download, preferably under 1 meg so
it doesn't take me any time, or a free CD on a magazine cover.

Mike

smerf

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Dec 12, 2006, 8:24:22 PM12/12/06
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Don't forget a "Delete Smartass" shortcut key that automatically trashes
posts like yours.

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Mike Koewler

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Dec 12, 2006, 9:44:38 PM12/12/06
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TEE, HEE, HEE!

Maybe Santa will bring you a life for a Christmas present.

Seriously, it's not our fault you are a boob and don't have a clue -
someone that wants life handed to you on a silver platter. And then
probably complain if you have to wipe the tray.

The software available today to allow people to build a website is
remarkable. No, it doesn't cater to inept morons who cannot ask
questions or cut and paste code, but that's your problem.

After you get out of grade school - which should be in about seven years
unless you flunk a bunch of grades, post back with specific questions.
I'm sure someone will help you.

Mike

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