Visio drawing scaled improperly inside Word document
Paul D. DeRocco
Professional, running on Windows Me. If I create a blank Word document,
insert a new Visio object into it, draw something in the Visio object, and
then click outside of it to return to Word, all I see of what I drew is the
top left corner, magnified by a factor of slightly more than six to fill the
available space. If I print it, the problem appears in the printout, not
just on the screen.
If I right-click on it and choose Visio Object -> Edit, it displays it
correctly, along with the Visio toolbars, but as soon as I click outside it
again, it magnifies the image so that I only see the top left corner again.
Same if I use Visio Object -> Open. I've gone into Format Object -> Size to
look at the scaling, and everything looks normal.
I've tried selecting different printers, including Acrobat, and that changes
nothing. I've reinstalled both Visio and Office.
If I take the document to someone else's machine, it still looks bad. If I
create a document on someone else's machine, who has the same software, it
looks okay. When I import it to my machine, it still looks okay. If I use
Visio Object -> Edit or Open on it, but make no changes, it still looks
okay. But as soon as I use Edit or Open and actually change the drawing, I'm
back to seeing the magnified top left corner of the drawing.
This started around when I upgraded from Windows 98 SE to Windows Me.
Needless to say, this has rendered Visio 2000 utterly useless to me, since
all I ever use it for is creating drawings for embedding inside Word
documents.
Ciao,
Paul
Frank Wuenschel
I suppose you need to change scale this way:
a) double click your visio drwg. in word
b) VIEW > OPEN IN VISIO
c) now that your screen shows Visio only: FILE > PAGE SETUP > PAGE
PROPERTIES
d) Click Drawing Scale tab and set the right scale ratio as well as your
drawing units (maybe you have to try out different CUSTOM SCALE
combinations)
e) Save and leave Visio. Now you should note changes in your Word Visio
frame.
It is important to set all this within VISIO - not only in the Word instance
of Visio. Pls. also consider drawing scale vs. page size.
Frank W.
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Paul D. DeRocco
"Frank Wuenschel" <wuen...@t-online.de> wrote ...
> I suppose you need to change scale this way:
> a) double click your visio drwg. in word
> b) VIEW > OPEN IN VISIO
> c) now that your screen shows Visio only: FILE > PAGE SETUP > PAGE
> PROPERTIES
> d) Click Drawing Scale tab and set the right scale ratio as well as your
> drawing units (maybe you have to try out different CUSTOM SCALE
> combinations)
> e) Save and leave Visio. Now you should note changes in your Word Visio
> frame.
> It is important to set all this within VISIO - not only in the Word
instance
> of Visio. Pls. also consider drawing scale vs. page size.
Thanks for taking a stab at it, but that didn't work. I've got "No scale"
selected, but if I put in a custom scale, it changes the size of everything
in Visio, making an ungodly mess of everything. (Which doesn't seem right to
me, either.)
I know that when you embed an object in a Word document, it also includes a
graphical representation of it in some portable form (Windows metafile,
perhaps?) so that it can still be viewed by people who don't have the
program (in this case Visio) that supports the embedded object. I think the
problem has to do with the conversion from the Visio object to that
graphical representation. I assume that that conversion is done by Visio,
not by Word, although that isn't to say that Word couldn't be choosing a
bogus scale factor for it.
Another thing I did at around the same time that this problem first cropped
up was to embed some Equation Editor objects inside a Visio drawing, which
was then put inside a Word document. But I've long since deleted that
particular file, so I can't see why that would have anything to do with it.
Ciao,
Paul
Frank Wuenschel
if you want to, you can email that file (or a similar one causing the same
problem) to me so I take a look.
For the case I find a solution I will reply to the NG.
By
Frank W.
Paul D. DeRocco <pder...@ix.netcom.com> schrieb in im Newsbeitrag:
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Tobie
Hi Frank, Paul
I also have a customer I am working with this same Issue. His problem
didn't start until he tried to close Word, and word asked him if it was all
right to update normal.dot file. Since then when he attempts to put in a
drawing from Visio, This is what he gets, There is a hidden picture area
that is right clickable. With some options. He has sent me the
original.vsd file, and I had no problems opening up the VSD file, and right
clicking, "Copy Drawing, and open word, pasting into word. and Emailing
the file back to him.
I am noticeing some strange things with this. Let me know if you have
resolved this issue? Right now, I think we are going to reinstall Office
2k, and Visio 2k.
MS says it could be display adaptor driver, or Printer driver. Technet
Q254389,
Another article that states that the Right & Bottom appears to be Cropped,
Q254583 (for visio 5.x)
Out of Ideas, and looking for inspiration ...
Thanks Tobie
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Frank Wuenschel
I just can report that after receiving Paul's sample file (Word.doc incl.
Visio drwg.) I faced the huge upper left corner of the drwg. as advised.
Opening drawing in my Visio Technical 2k and saving it solved that problem:
When re-opening Word document the whole drawing was visible now.
After mailing that "debugged" *.doc back to Paul the Word document semt ok
at the first look, showing the full drwg. But as soon as he modified the
Visio portion he had the same problem as before.
Opening and saving the Visio drawing (even without making any changes) works
only on my side. Perhaps it has to do with the Visio edition in use.
Anyway - I fixed cropped Visio drwgs. within Word by one of these steps:
a) changing scale and / or page setup
b) selecting another printer (which doesn't need physically to exist, of
course)
c) if only a portion of the drwg. is cropped within Word click "Modify" (NOT
open in Visio) and enlarge the Visio frame by pulling outer boarders
Since I lost the eMail exchange I had with Paul (I only got his sample file)
and I didn't follow up NG for a longer time I hope that I didn't forget
anything important.
Pls. tell me more about the "hidden picture area that is right clickable" -
this isn't clear to me.
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Frank W.
Tobie <arfs...@mediaone.net> schrieb in im Newsbeitrag:
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Tobie
clickable" -
> this isn't clear to me.
This area is just a Word Picture (Embedded Object area) frame that is there,
with nothing to show that there was a placeholder there forVisio.
Tobie
"Frank Wuenschel" <wuen...@t-online.de> wrote in message
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> Hi Tobie,
>
> I just can report that after receiving Paul's sample file (Word.doc incl.
> Visio drwg.) I faced the huge upper left corner of the drwg. as advised.
> Opening drawing in my Visio Technical 2k and saving it solved that
problem:
> When re-opening Word document the whole drawing was visible now.
> After mailing that "debugged" *.doc back to Paul the Word document semt ok
> at the first look, showing the full drwg. But as soon as he modified the
> Visio portion he had the same problem as before.
> Opening and saving the Visio drawing (even without making any changes)
works
> only on my side. Perhaps it has to do with the Visio edition in use.
> Anyway - I fixed cropped Visio drwgs. within Word by one of these steps:
> a) changing scale and / or page setup
> b) selecting another printer (which doesn't need physically to exist, of
> course)
> c) if only a portion of the drwg. is cropped within Word click "Modify"
(NOT
> open in Visio) and enlarge the Visio frame by pulling outer boarders
>
> Since I lost the eMail exchange I had with Paul (I only got his sample
file)
> and I didn't follow up NG for a longer time I hope that I didn't forget
> anything important.
>
>
Jonathan Gebbie
upgraded from Visio 5 to Visio 2000. When I edited Visio diagrams within
Word docs I also found that I got the "zoom in on top left hand corner"
effect. Also colleagues got the same effect (same using Win 95, some Win
98).
The solution (thanks to comments in this thread) seems to be to extract the
embedded Visio image, save it as a file, then open in Visio stand-alone and
change the printer. Then save Visio file and re-insert into the Word doc.
This does not work for just any printer change. My default printer is an HP
Laserjet 8000 Series PCL 6. If I change to another printer of the same type,
it has no effect - but if I change the Visio doc to use the Postscript
driver, it does fix the problem. Note that I'm not actually printing
anything out here, just setting the printer associated with the Visio doc.
Thanks for comments in this thread which helped sort out this issue.
Jonathan Gebbie
"Paul D. DeRocco" <pder...@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
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I don't know if you are still experiencing these issues. I have encountered and resolved them recently. My Visio 2010 embedded objects in Word 2016 are only showing the upper left corner after editing. Scaling doesn't help as it shows a smaller version of the upper left corner of my visio.
In Word I've rescaled the object by dragging the corners. After that I cropped the image larger. For some I had to repeat these actions to get the right fit.
Eva