Google Groups no longer supports new Usenet posts or subscriptions. Historical content remains viewable.
Dismiss

Re: Visual C++ 5.0 and XP SP2

31 views
Skip to first unread message

Tom Serface

unread,
Sep 2, 2004, 12:46:02 PM9/2/04
to
Hi Simon,

I don't even know anyone who uses 5.0 any longer so I don't really know the
answer to this questions, but the 7.1 IDE works great for me. The only
problem I have with it is the intellisense slows to a crawl sometimes, but
you can turn that off. I woudln't surprise me if MSFT wasn't doing a lot of
testing with that old of a version of the IDE, although you would think it
would work. Have you tried reinstalling 5.0 after XP2?

Tom

"Simon Orde" <Simon Or...@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:59BC572C-63B5-48B6...@microsoft.com...
> I am a Visual C++ 5.0 user I have just upgraded to XP's SP2 and as a
> side-effect, Visual Studio will no longer display any help on anything. I
> can see a list of topics, but if I try to view one I get "the page cannot
be
> displayed". The relevant pane is, a container for I.E. in some guise. It
> seems to work in that I can access Internet webpages on it OK, when I type
an
> addressin the Infoviewer toolbar, but not the help which is stored
somewhere
> on the PC. Has anyone else encountered this and have any suggestions?
I've
> tried a little tweaking on the Internet Explorer security zones for the
local
> intranet - assuming that that is the relevant zone - but without success
> (just about everything is enabled or prompt anyway). Any help much
> appreciated. I expect I'll have to upgrade Visual Studio at some point,
but
> I'm not in a hurry - esp. as people seem to hate the VC7 IDE and I love
the
> VC5 IDE (or did when it worked).
>
> TIA
>
> Simon


Bob Moore

unread,
Sep 3, 2004, 6:22:28 AM9/3/04
to
On Thu, 2 Sep 2004 01:53:03 -0700, "Simon Orde" <Simon
Or...@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:

>I am a Visual C++ 5.0 user I have just upgraded to XP's SP2 and as a
>side-effect, Visual Studio will no longer display any help on anything. I
>can see a list of topics, but if I try to view one I get "the page cannot be
>displayed". The relevant pane is, a container for I.E. in some guise. It
>seems to work in that I can access Internet webpages on it OK, when I type an
>addressin the Infoviewer toolbar, but not the help which is stored somewhere
>on the PC. Has anyone else encountered this and have any suggestions?

SP2 changes security settings to the effect that it does not allow HTM
files to access the local file system. I had to change our installer
front end to use HTA instead of HTM for precisely this reason (after
fruitlessly fooling around with security settings for an hour as you
no doubt did). I never found a solution, but MS needs to post one, and
sooner rather than later.

Bob Moore

unread,
Sep 3, 2004, 6:27:11 AM9/3/04
to
To clarify my last post - the HTM files in question contain ActiveX
objects, and it's those that access the file system, which is not
allowed under SP2's brave new world.

It's my own damn fool fault for using ActiveVirus (tm) really. Should
have known better. It's strangely satisfying to find that MS's own
code got bit as well, though :-)

Peter Meijer

unread,
Sep 9, 2004, 5:25:54 PM9/9/04
to
I'm having exactly the same problem with VC5 (Professional)
not showing Help results after installing SP2. That is now
halting my development work. Does anyone know of a fix or
workaround? VC5 is not that old and worked just fine until
I installed Windows XP SP2. I also noticed that at first
startup, VC5 now takes far longer than usual before showing
its IDE.

Peter

Bob Moore <bo...@mvps.org> wrote in message news:<pihgj0993n25ps73f...@4ax.com>...

Peter Meijer

unread,
Sep 10, 2004, 2:41:40 PM9/10/04
to
> I'll escalate this, if no-one else already has.

Thanks Bob, please do! I tried to submit the problem
that XP SP2 breaks all VC 5.0 documentation and help
functions to Microsoft, but only got those annoying
standard answers back from them like restoring to a
previous time point and similar "suggestions". So I
don't think they are listening yet. Right now the
problem is blocking my development work and no doubt
that of many other VC 5.0 users.

Peter Meijer

http://www.seeingwithsound.com

Bob Moore wrote:


> On 9 Sep 2004 14:25:54 -0700, Peter Meijer wrote:
>
>
>>Does anyone know of a fix or workaround?
>
>

> Nope, I spent ages pratting around with the security settings (without
> any joy) before changing to using HTAs for our kit.
>
> I'll escalate this, if no-one else already has.
>
> Bob Moore
> http://bobmoore.mvps.org/
> (this is a non-commercial site and does not accept advertising)

Peter Meijer

unread,
Sep 13, 2004, 7:50:56 PM9/13/04
to
Problem solved!!! A very big thank you to Bob Moore and Kim Gräsman,
who definitely put me on the right track towards finding a solution.

It still took me several hours to figure out that the problem was not
with FEATURE_LocalMachine_Lockdown but FEATURE_DISABLE_MK_PROTOCOL
as Visual C++ 5.0 indeed uses the MK protocol for its documentation.
Anyway, putting the following lines in a .reg file (add disclaimer)

REGEDIT4

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Internet
Explorer\Main\FeatureControl\FEATURE_DISABLE_MK_PROTOCOL]
"MSDEV.EXE"=dword:00000000

and double-clicking that file will fix problem with Visual C++ 5.0
not showing help and documentation after installing Windows XP SP2.
Everything shows up fine again.

I've temporarily put a "vc5onxp.reg" patch file (add disclaimer) at

http://www.seeingwithsound.com/extra/vc5onxp.reg

Best regards,

Peter Meijer


http://www.seeingwithsound.com

Simon

unread,
Sep 14, 2004, 12:12:29 PM9/14/04
to
Fantastic! I've just tried it out. Thanks very much.

Simon Orde

"Peter Meijer" <not...@seeingwithsound.com> wrote in message
news:52319229.04091...@posting.google.com...

Acha

unread,
Sep 20, 2004, 2:59:02 PM9/20/04
to
Well done men and Thanks.
Acha
0 new messages