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Bill Armitage

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Apr 9, 2008, 1:21:01 PM4/9/08
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Most of my developments are in VB6. However, I still have a few that
require a small runtime compiled program so I still would like to use VB4
(32bit). I would like to use this on my VISTA pc but when I install VB4 and
try to access it, it always fails because it reports that 'olepro32.dll'
failed to register (presumably in the Registry). I have manually registered
this 'DLL' using the command
regsvr32 olepro32.dll
and this seems to work because it reports that olepro32.dll has been
registered.
But when I try to use VB4 it again reports that it fails to register
'olepro32.dll'.
I am desperate to find a way round this problem (in VISTA - it works OK in
XP).
Any help would be GREATLY appreciated.

Kevin Provance

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Apr 9, 2008, 3:43:43 PM4/9/08
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I'd be really surprised if you could actually get VB4 to work under Vista.

Regardless, you need to install it as an administrator and more importantly,
*run* it as an admin. If those things don't work out, you might be SOL. :|

- Kev

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Richard Mueller [MVP]

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Specifically, right click the install exe and select "Run as administrator".

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Hilltop Lab - http://www.rlmueller.net
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Bill Armitage

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Apr 10, 2008, 4:25:01 AM4/10/08
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Thank you Kevin for that advice. It never occurred to me to run it as
Administrator. I'm really quite new to VISTA. I'll certainly try that.
Your help (and indeed interest) is greatly appreciated.
Bill Armitage

Bill Armitage

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Apr 10, 2008, 4:35:01 AM4/10/08
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Richard,
Many thanks for your helpful suggestion following Kevin's response. I do
appreciate any help I can get because I am certainly not and expert in these
matters. Its comforting to know that there are experts out there willing to
help people like me. Thank you again.
Bill Armitage

Bill Armitage

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Apr 10, 2008, 10:35:01 AM4/10/08
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Kevin,
THANK YOU!!!!
I've got VB4 working with VISTA by installing it as 'Run as Administrator'
then when I want to run it, I again need to 'Run as Administrator' -
brilliant - many many thanks from a grateful user of MS products.
Sorry to keep troubling you, but can I create a desktop icon that, when
clicked, will run VB4(32 bit) by somehow setting the icon properties to load
VB4 and Run as Administrator? Its not essential - but it would be
convenient if I could set up an icon with such properties.
But regarding the main problem - THANKS again,
Gratefully yours,
Bill Armitage

Bill Armitage

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Apr 10, 2008, 10:37:01 AM4/10/08
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Richard,
I've just written to Kevin, but I would also like to thank you personally
for helping me solve a real problem

THANK YOU!!!!
I've got VB4 working with VISTA by installing it as 'Run as Administrator'
then when I want to run it, I again need to 'Run as Administrator' -
brilliant - many many thanks from a grateful user of MS products.
Sorry to keep troubling you, but can I create a desktop icon that, when
clicked, will run VB4(32 bit) by somehow setting the icon properties to load
VB4 and Run as Administrator? Its not essential - but it would be
convenient if I could set up an icon with such properties.
But regarding the main problem - THANKS again,
Gratefully yours,
Bill Armitage

Kevin Provance

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Apr 10, 2008, 11:10:36 AM4/10/08
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If you right-click over the the VB4.EXE (or whatever it's called, I forget
to be honest) and click the "Compatibility" tab, you can tick the "Run as
administrator" options. This will ensure VB runs as admin at all times.

- Kev


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Richard Mueller [MVP]

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"Bill Armitage" <BillAr...@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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> Richard,
> I've just written to Kevin, but I would also like to thank you personally
> for helping me solve a real problem
>
> THANK YOU!!!!
> I've got VB4 working with VISTA by installing it as 'Run as Administrator'
> then when I want to run it, I again need to 'Run as Administrator' -
> brilliant - many many thanks from a grateful user of MS products.
> Sorry to keep troubling you, but can I create a desktop icon that, when
> clicked, will run VB4(32 bit) by somehow setting the icon properties to
> load
> VB4 and Run as Administrator? Its not essential - but it would be
> convenient if I could set up an icon with such properties.
> But regarding the main problem - THANKS again,
> Gratefully yours,
> Bill Armitage
>

In general, Microsoft wants the user to always explicitly grant permission
before taking any action with security consequences. However, I just looked
at my vb6 shortcut, and in properties on the compatibility tab there is an
option to "Run this program as an administrator". I just tried it. Now when
I click the shortcut I get the UAC (User Access Control) prompt asking for
permssion. This last prompt cannot be avoided. If it could, malicious
software could take advantage of it to do evil without the user's
permission. However, now I won't forget (as I sometimes do) to right click
the shortcut, do some work, then get an error and have to close out and
restart vb.

Ken Halter

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>
> In general, Microsoft wants the user to always explicitly grant permission
> before taking any action with security consequences. ....

ca-ca <g> They want the end user to be responsible for all problems on their
PC.

All of these dialogs are doing nothing but making it hard on "grandma" to
view pictures of her grandkids... she'll end up getting a Mac.

Windows is 'collapsing,' Gartner analysts warn
http://www.computerworld.com/action/article.do?command=viewArticleBasic&articleId=9076698


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In Loving Memory - http://www.vbsight.com/Remembrance.htm


Peter Baranyai

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Apr 15, 2008, 9:59:32 PM4/15/08
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Just checked out the "Microsoft forum "
Vista is really letting me down on all fronts ..won`t recognize any of my
old hardware that works fine on on my moms XP like my old Logitech quick
cam,old canon printer .they send me on a wild goose chase every time.and the
no help thing sucks big time ..why did they create this OS???

Kevin Provance

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Apr 16, 2008, 12:22:09 AM4/16/08
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Dunno...don't care. This forum is for vista compatibility where it applies
to Visual Basic 6 (hence, the .vb in the title). Since I see no reference
to VB in anyway in your message, then you're in the wrong group. Sorry

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chege89

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Bob W

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Apr 28, 2008, 11:54:18 PM4/28/08
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I have the Logitech Quickcam (the UltraVision model - looks like a horizontal tube with flared ends - and it works fine on my Vista HP.  I have the Quickcam software from Logitech but the inherent drivers of Vista also work just fine.  I do have a minor problem with the USB webcam losing lock when I go into sleep mode for a long period sometimes and I have to unplug and re-plug it back in, but that is a seldom and minor issue I am working on resolving.  I have a HP DV9500 CTO Laptop with a built in mike and HP Webcam and I can easily switch between the two audio/webcams in all of my applications (QuickPlay, Window Live Messenger, AIM, etc.).  I also have a Canon iP6220D printer and while the EasyPrint Toolbar doesn't work with Vista, all of the other Canon stuff does.  I have a built-in Bluetooth card and connect to my Canon printer, my Logitech wireless keyboard and my wireless Logitech mouse (also have a Kensington mouse with a USB Bluetooth dongle) just find as occasionally locking on to the passing Bluetooth cell phone walking by.  :)
 
You might want to make sure you have the latest drivers and install Logitech's Quickcam and Setpoint Vista versions.  HINT:  when loading Setpoint elect to use the Windows Bluetooth solution, not Logitech's.  Couldn't get the Canon to connect with the Logitech Bluetooth solution.  Never figured out exactly why.

 Bob, Still Old, Still Grey, And Still A Woolf


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Bob W

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Apr 28, 2008, 11:56:03 PM4/28/08
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Well, I have to say that if I had been given a choice back in November when I got my new laptop whether to get it with XP or Vista, I'd have chosen XP, hands down.  But once you tweak Vista, turn off all the administrative BS that a single user does not need (yes, the damn UAC!), clean up the start up programs list, unload all the extra crap, Vista isn't so bad.  It seems to work OK and has some nice features that XP lacked (some of the Control Panel features and tools, the Recovery Manager Console, Partition Wizard, etc.).  The IE7 is nice, even if it still tends to crash now and then and doesn't want to load some pages (I use Firefox as my default and only go to IE7 when I have to), the WinMail is OK and basically a clone of Outlook Express with some extras, and the security seems to be better, if a bit annoying at times.  For me, I don't depend on Vista build-in security that much and use a third party security suite (McAfee) and if you want a more feature filled mail program, I highly recommend Windows Live Mail (freebie companion to the Windows Live Messenger and SkyDrive MySpace look alike).
 
I have dumped the Aero thingy and gone to a classic desktop seem so I have pretty much turned my Vista HP SP1 into a XP clone with extras.  Works Ok for me.  Still, I have to admit that Vista, compared to XP, uses up a lot of RAM and resources, HD space and it boots slower (even with a cleaned up startup menu) and in general is slower than XP.  But then my new laptop has a Core 2 Duo at 2.2Mhz which helps compensate for the slower operation.  The 1 GB RAM in my old XP laptop had to be 2 GB RAM for my new Vista system and even then I have already gotten the chips to max it out to 4 GB ram. 
]
And while there has been some compatibility problems with third part programs that ran OK under XP but don't work well with Vista or have minor bugs (Norton SS 2008, Word Perfect 3X, and some others), those problems are slowly being resolved and most software publishers are making Vista compatible programs available now.
 
So that's the story, for me on XP vs. Vista.  Vista's plug and play hardware is pretty good and the driver update is also a good thing over XP.  As for the slow boot up speed, it's not that slow and beside, with Vista I usually don't shut down at all (running on wall power all the time) so when I want to stop computing for the day, I just put her into SLEEP mode so it wakes up pretty fast.
 
That help resolve your question?  A lot of it is matter of preference and choice and like XP, it will get better with updates.  SP1 did a lot to fix some problems.  IE7 still needs a lot of work.  Looking forward to the IE8.  In the mean time I'm happy with Firefox 2.04.

 Bob, Still Old, Still Grey, And Still A Woolf


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richardlaw

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Right click on the icon in the Start Menu and select "Properties". When the box opens, select the "Shortcut" tab. Select the "Advanced" button. You will see a box that can be checked that says "Run as Administrator". Check the box and "Apply" yor way out. From now on, VB will open in "Run as Administrator" whenever you click on the icon.

BillArmitag wrote:

Richard,I've just written to Kevin, but I would also like to thank you
10-Apr-08

Richard,
I've just written to Kevin, but I would also like to thank you personally
for helping me solve a real problem

THANK YOU!!!!
I've got VB4 working with VISTA by installing it as 'Run as Administrator'
then when I want to run it, I again need to 'Run as Administrator' -
brilliant - many many thanks from a grateful user of MS products.
Sorry to keep troubling you, but can I create a desktop icon that, when
clicked, will run VB4(32 bit) by somehow setting the icon properties to load
VB4 and Run as Administrator? Its not essential - but it would be
convenient if I could set up an icon with such properties.
But regarding the main problem - THANKS again,
Gratefully yours,
Bill Armitage

"Richard Mueller [MVP]" wrote:

Previous Posts In This Thread:

On Wednesday, April 09, 2008 1:21 PM
BillArmitag wrote:

registering olepro32.dll


Most of my developments are in VB6. However, I still have a few that
require a small runtime compiled program so I still would like to use VB4
(32bit). I would like to use this on my VISTA pc but when I install VB4 and
try to access it, it always fails because it reports that 'olepro32.dll'
failed to register (presumably in the Registry). I have manually registered
this 'DLL' using the command
regsvr32 olepro32.dll
and this seems to work because it reports that olepro32.dll has been
registered.
But when I try to use VB4 it again reports that it fails to register
'olepro32.dll'.
I am desperate to find a way round this problem (in VISTA - it works OK in
XP).
Any help would be GREATLY appreciated.

On Wednesday, April 09, 2008 3:43 PM
Kevin Provance wrote:

I'd be really surprised if you could actually get VB4 to work under Vista.
I'd be really surprised if you could actually get VB4 to work under Vista.

Regardless, you need to install it as an administrator and more importantly,
*run* it as an admin. If those things don't work out, you might be SOL. :|

- Kev

"Bill Armitage" <BillAr...@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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and
registered

On Wednesday, April 09, 2008 9:33 PM
Richard Mueller [MVP] wrote:

Specifically, right click the install exe and select "Run as administrator".
Specifically, right click the install exe and select "Run as administrator".

--
Richard Mueller
Microsoft MVP Scripting and ADSI
Hilltop Lab - http://www.rlmueller.net
--

On Thursday, April 10, 2008 4:25 AM
BillArmitag wrote:

Thank you Kevin for that advice.
Thank you Kevin for that advice. It never occurred to me to run it as
Administrator. I'm really quite new to VISTA. I'll certainly try that.
Your help (and indeed interest) is greatly appreciated.

Bill Armitage

"Kevin Provance" wrote:

On Thursday, April 10, 2008 4:35 AM
BillArmitag wrote:

Richard,Many thanks for your helpful suggestion following Kevin's response.


Richard,
Many thanks for your helpful suggestion following Kevin's response. I do
appreciate any help I can get because I am certainly not and expert in these
matters. Its comforting to know that there are experts out there willing to
help people like me. Thank you again.

Bill Armitage

"Richard Mueller [MVP]" wrote:

On Thursday, April 10, 2008 10:35 AM
BillArmitag wrote:

Kevin,THANK YOU!!!!
Kevin,


THANK YOU!!!!
I've got VB4 working with VISTA by installing it as 'Run as Administrator'
then when I want to run it, I again need to 'Run as Administrator' -
brilliant - many many thanks from a grateful user of MS products.
Sorry to keep troubling you, but can I create a desktop icon that, when
clicked, will run VB4(32 bit) by somehow setting the icon properties to load
VB4 and Run as Administrator? Its not essential - but it would be
convenient if I could set up an icon with such properties.
But regarding the main problem - THANKS again,
Gratefully yours,
Bill Armitage

"Kevin Provance" wrote:

On Thursday, April 10, 2008 10:37 AM
BillArmitag wrote:

Richard,I've just written to Kevin, but I would also like to thank you


Richard,
I've just written to Kevin, but I would also like to thank you personally
for helping me solve a real problem

THANK YOU!!!!
I've got VB4 working with VISTA by installing it as 'Run as Administrator'
then when I want to run it, I again need to 'Run as Administrator' -
brilliant - many many thanks from a grateful user of MS products.
Sorry to keep troubling you, but can I create a desktop icon that, when
clicked, will run VB4(32 bit) by somehow setting the icon properties to load
VB4 and Run as Administrator? Its not essential - but it would be
convenient if I could set up an icon with such properties.
But regarding the main problem - THANKS again,
Gratefully yours,
Bill Armitage

"Richard Mueller [MVP]" wrote:

On Thursday, April 10, 2008 11:10 AM
Kevin Provance wrote:

If you right-click over the the VB4.
If you right-click over the the VB4.EXE (or whatever it's called, I forget
to be honest) and click the "Compatibility" tab, you can tick the "Run as
administrator" options. This will ensure VB runs as admin at all times.

- Kev


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load
Vista.
importantly,
message
VB4
VB4
'olepro32.dll'
OK in

On Thursday, April 10, 2008 12:09 PM
Richard Mueller [MVP] wrote:

Re: registering olepro32.dll


"Bill Armitage" <BillAr...@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

news:AFBAB070-F6AC-4B88...@microsoft.com...

In general, Microsoft wants the user to always explicitly grant permission

before taking any action with security consequences. However, I just looked
at my vb6 shortcut, and in properties on the compatibility tab there is an
option to "Run this program as an administrator". I just tried it. Now when
I click the shortcut I get the UAC (User Access Control) prompt asking for
permssion. This last prompt cannot be avoided. If it could, malicious
software could take advantage of it to do evil without the user's
permission. However, now I won't forget (as I sometimes do) to right click
the shortcut, do some work, then get an error and have to close out and
restart vb.

--

Richard Mueller
Microsoft MVP Scripting and ADSI
Hilltop Lab - http://www.rlmueller.net
--

On Friday, April 11, 2008 1:44 PM
Ken Halter wrote:

Re: registering olepro32.dll


"Richard Mueller [MVP]" <rlmuelle...@ameritech.nospam.net> wrote in
message news:OYcWaVym...@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

ca-ca <g> They want the end user to be responsible for all problems on their
PC.

All of these dialogs are doing nothing but making it hard on "grandma" to
view pictures of her grandkids... she'll end up getting a Mac.


--
Ken Halter - MS-MVP-VB - Please keep all discussions in the groups..
In Loving Memory - http://www.vbsight.com/Remembrance.htm

On Tuesday, April 15, 2008 9:59 PM
Peter Baranyai wrote:

Just checked out the "Microsoft forum "Vista is really letting me down on all
Just checked out the "Microsoft forum "
Vista is really letting me down on all fronts ..won`t recognize any of my
old hardware that works fine on on my moms XP like my old Logitech quick
cam,old canon printer .they send me on a wild goose chase every time.and the
no help thing sucks big time ..why did they create this OS???

On Wednesday, April 16, 2008 12:22 AM
Kevin Provance wrote:

Dunno...don't care.


Dunno...don't care. This forum is for vista compatibility where it applies
to Visual Basic 6 (hence, the .vb in the title). Since I see no reference
to VB in anyway in your message, then you're in the wrong group. Sorry

"Peter Baranyai" <plbar...@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
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On Wednesday, April 16, 2008 2:03 PM
chege89 wrote:

Re: registering olepro32.dll
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On Monday, April 28, 2008 11:54 PM
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occasionally locking on to the passing Bluetooth cell phone walking by. =

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Logitech's Quickcam and Setpoint Vista versions. HINT: when loading =
Setpoint elect to use the Windows Bluetooth solution, not Logitech's. =
Couldn't get the Canon to connect with the Logitech Bluetooth solution. =


Never figured out exactly why.

Bob, Still Old, Still Grey, And Still A Woolf


No trees were harmed in the sending of this message and a very large =
number of electrons were asked their permission to be terribly =
inconvenienced. And a party was thrown for them afterwards for being =
really cool about it.=20

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On Monday, April 28, 2008 11:56 PM
Bob W wrote:

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Well, I have to say that if I had been given a choice back in November =
when I got my new laptop whether to get it with XP or Vista, I'd have =
chosen XP, hands down. But once you tweak Vista, turn off all the =
administrative BS that a single user does not need (yes, the damn UAC!), =
clean up the start up programs list, unload all the extra crap, Vista =
isn't so bad. It seems to work OK and has some nice features that XP =
lacked (some of the Control Panel features and tools, the Recovery =
Manager Console, Partition Wizard, etc.). The IE7 is nice, even if it =
still tends to crash now and then and doesn't want to load some pages (I =
use Firefox as my default and only go to IE7 when I have to), the =
WinMail is OK and basically a clone of Outlook Express with some extras, =
and the security seems to be better, if a bit annoying at times. For =
me, I don't depend on Vista build-in security that much and use a third =
party security suite (McAfee) and if you want a more feature filled mail =
program, I highly recommend Windows Live Mail (freebie companion to the =


Windows Live Messenger and SkyDrive MySpace look alike).

I have dumped the Aero thingy and gone to a classic desktop seem so I =
have pretty much turned my Vista HP SP1 into a XP clone with extras. =
Works Ok for me. Still, I have to admit that Vista, compared to XP, =
uses up a lot of RAM and resources, HD space and it boots slower (even =
with a cleaned up startup menu) and in general is slower than XP. But =
then my new laptop has a Core 2 Duo at 2.2Mhz which helps compensate for =
the slower operation. The 1 GB RAM in my old XP laptop had to be 2 GB =
RAM for my new Vista system and even then I have already gotten the =
chips to max it out to 4 GB ram. =20
]
And while there has been some compatibility problems with third part =
programs that ran OK under XP but don't work well with Vista or have =
minor bugs (Norton SS 2008, Word Perfect 3X, and some others), those =
problems are slowly being resolved and most software publishers are =


making Vista compatible programs available now.

So that's the story, for me on XP vs. Vista. Vista's plug and play =
hardware is pretty good and the driver update is also a good thing over =
XP. As for the slow boot up speed, it's not that slow and beside, with =
Vista I usually don't shut down at all (running on wall power all the =
time) so when I want to stop computing for the day, I just put her into =


SLEEP mode so it wakes up pretty fast.

That help resolve your question? A lot of it is matter of preference =
and choice and like XP, it will get better with updates. SP1 did a lot =
to fix some problems. IE7 still needs a lot of work. Looking forward =


to the IE8. In the mean time I'm happy with Firefox 2.04.
Bob, Still Old, Still Grey, And Still A Woolf


No trees were harmed in the sending of this message and a very large =
number of electrons were asked their permission to be terribly =
inconvenienced. And a party was thrown for them afterwards for being =
really cool about it.=20

Bob's Space - Home Page of the Olde Greywoolf

"Peter Baranyai" <plbar...@sympatico.ca> wrote in message =


news:ufalGW2n...@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
Just checked out the "Microsoft forum "

Vista is really letting me down on all fronts ..won`t recognize any of =
my=20
old hardware that works fine on on my moms XP like my old Logitech =
quick=20
cam,old canon printer .they send me on a wild goose chase every =
time.and the=20
no help thing sucks big time ..why did they create this OS???=20

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I'd have=20
chosen XP, hands down.&nbsp; But once you tweak Vista, turn off all the=20
administrative BS that a single user does not need (yes, the damn UAC!), =
clean=20
up the start up programs list, unload all the extra crap, Vista isn't so =

bad.&nbsp; It seems to work OK and has some nice features that XP lacked =
(some=20
of the Control Panel features and tools, the Recovery Manager Console, =
Partition=20
Wizard, etc.).&nbsp; The IE7 is nice, even if it still tends to crash =
now and=20
then and doesn't want to load some pages (I use Firefox as my default =
and only=20
go to IE7 when I have to), the WinMail is OK and basically a clone of =
Outlook=20
Express with some extras, and the security seems to be better, if a bit =
annoying=20
at times.&nbsp; For me, I don't depend on Vista build-in security that =
much and=20
use a third party security suite (McAfee) and if you want a more feature =
filled=20
mail program, I highly recommend Windows Live Mail (freebie companion to =
the=20
Windows Live Messenger and SkyDrive MySpace look alike).</STRONG></DIV>
<DIV><STRONG></STRONG>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><STRONG>I have dumped the Aero thingy and gone to a classic desktop =
seem so=20
I have pretty much turned my Vista HP SP1 into a XP clone with =
extras.&nbsp;=20
Works Ok for me.&nbsp; Still, I have to admit that Vista, compared to =
XP, uses=20
up a lot of RAM and resources, HD space and it boots slower (even with a =
cleaned=20
up startup menu) and in general is slower than XP.&nbsp; But then my new =
laptop=20
has a Core 2 Duo at 2.2Mhz which helps compensate for the slower=20
operation.&nbsp; The 1 GB RAM in my old XP laptop had to be 2 GB RAM for =
my new=20
Vista system and even then I have already gotten the chips to max it out =
to 4 GB=20
ram.&nbsp; </STRONG></DIV>
<DIV><STRONG>]</STRONG></DIV>
<DIV><STRONG>And while there has been some compatibility problems with =
third=20
part programs that ran OK under XP but don't work well with Vista or =
have minor=20
bugs (Norton SS 2008, Word Perfect 3X, and some others), those problems =
are=20
slowly being resolved and most software publishers are making Vista =
compatible=20
programs available now.</STRONG></DIV>
<DIV><STRONG></STRONG>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><STRONG>So that's the story, for me on XP vs. Vista.&nbsp; Vista's =
plug and=20
play hardware is pretty good and the driver update is also&nbsp;a good =
thing=20
over XP.&nbsp; As for the slow boot up speed, it's not that slow and =
beside,=20
with Vista I usually don't shut down at all (running on wall power all =
the time)=20
so when I want to stop computing for the day, I just put her into SLEEP =
mode so=20
it wakes up pretty fast.</STRONG></DIV>
<DIV><STRONG></STRONG>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><STRONG>That help resolve your question?&nbsp; A lot of it is =
matter of=20
preference and choice and like XP, it will get better with =
updates.&nbsp; SP1=20
did a lot to fix some problems.&nbsp; IE7 still needs a lot of =
work.&nbsp;=20
Looking forward to the IE8.&nbsp; In the mean time I'm happy with =
Firefox=20
2.04.</STRONG></DIV>
<DIV>
<P>&nbsp;<A href=3D"http://oldegreywoolf.spaces.live.com/"><FONT=20
face=3DArial><B>Bob, Still Old, Still Grey, And Still A =
Woolf</B></FONT></A></P>
<P><FONT face=3DArial><B><BR></B></FONT><FONT face=3DArial><FONT =
size=3D2><I><B>No=20
trees were harmed in the sending of this message and a very large number =
of=20
electrons were asked their permission to be terribly inconvenienced. And =
a party=20
was thrown for them afterwards for being really cool about it.=20
</B></I></FONT></FONT></P>
<P><A href=3D"http://oldegreywoolf.spaces.live.com/"><FONT=20
face=3D"Times New Roman">Bob's Space - Home Page of the Olde=20
Greywoolf</FONT></A></P></DIV></STRONG></DIV>
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<DIV>"Peter Baranyai" &lt;<A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:plbar...@sympatico.ca">plbar...@sympatico.ca</A>&gt; =
wrote in=20
message <A=20
=
href=3D"news:ufalGW2n...@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl">news:ufalGW2nIHA.4904=
@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl</A>...</DIV>Just=20
checked out the "Microsoft forum "<BR>Vista is really letting me down =
on all=20
fronts ..won`t recognize any of my <BR>old hardware that works fine on =
on my=20
moms XP like my old Logitech quick <BR>cam,old canon printer .they =
send me on=20
a wild goose chase every time.and the <BR>no help thing sucks big time =
...why=20
did they create this OS??? <BR></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>

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> on my=20
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>> <DIV>"Peter Baranyai" &lt;<A=20
>> =
>> href=3D"mailto:plbar...@sympatico.ca">plbar...@sympatico.ca</A>&gt; =
>> wrote in=20
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>> =
>> href=3D"news:ufalGW2n...@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl">news:ufalGW2nIHA.4904=
>> @TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl</A>...</DIV>Just=20
>> checked out the "Microsoft forum "<BR>Vista is really letting me down =
>> on all=20
>> fronts ..won`t recognize any of my <BR>old hardware that works fine on =
>> on my=20
>> moms XP like my old Logitech quick <BR>cam,old canon printer .they =
>> send me on=20
>> a wild goose chase every time.and the <BR>no help thing sucks big time =

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