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John Fenton

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Mar 13, 2003, 8:54:04 AM3/13/03
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The new update today is sp2 for Microsoft .NET Framework and just like
before, it doesn't matter that you have only certain languages marked for
inclusion, every stupid one of the updates for every language is listed.

Whoever is in charge of this function at MS needs to be fired. I'm sending
Bill and Steve a message - this is more stupid than is tolerable.

john


Henrik Scheel

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Mar 13, 2003, 10:30:34 AM3/13/03
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Agree - BIG error

How can I remove the updates from my SUS server ?

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Gary Karasik

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Mar 13, 2003, 11:00:48 AM3/13/03
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You can remove them by going to the SUS content subdir in IIS. You'll have
to do a little mental translating to figure out which is which. What I don't
know is whether SUS will then DL them again when it syncs. Having to DL them
all again would be pretty irritating.

GaryK

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ramstryke

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Mar 13, 2003, 6:38:12 PM3/13/03
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Ahh good. I thought it was just me. I see it's an MS f#4k up.


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Don Cottam [MS]

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Mar 14, 2003, 12:34:02 AM3/14/03
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I'm not going to disagree that it's not an optimal situation, but let me see
if I can explain why it's this way right now.

Multiple language version of .Net Framework can be installed on an English
OS. This allows you to possibly create .Net Framework applications for
other languages (like Japanese) without the need to do it on a machine
running a Japanese OS. Now, if you install the Japanese version of .Net
Framework on an English OS, then the .Net Framework SP (which is considered
a "critical" patch) is also applicable to your English OS. That's why you
get multiple language versions of the .Net Framework SP even though you only
sync English content.

That's the "bad" news. The good news is that in the next version of SUS you
will have the capability of selecting exactly what updates you want to sync,
and only those updates are downloaded and stored on the SUS server. We
realized that there was a need to provide for sync filtering in the next
version, but the outcries about the .Net Framework service packs has made
that feature even more needed.

Don [MS]

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John Fenton

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Mar 17, 2003, 3:38:29 PM3/17/03
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Thanks for the update Don. I'm glad it's going to be resolved.

It's also good to see that we're finally smart enough to know what our
servers and desktops require for updates.

; ) John


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ramstryke

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Mar 17, 2003, 5:55:24 PM3/17/03
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It would be nice to see what desktops have already been applied updates. As
it stands, the only way to find out is to check the Event Viewer for each
machine. I'd like to see some sort of detailed list. Is that available?


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wfpdx

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Mar 17, 2003, 9:56:42 PM3/17/03
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There are some options. If you take your SUS log and run it through my log
interpreter, you can see what updates were downloaded and by what machine.
That link: http://www.pdxconsulting.com/sus

If you have SQL Server, you can set up my reporting system so that you can
look at a system's history: http://www.pdxconsulting.com/sus_reporting.zip

Also, it would be really cool of someone could write a XSLT for the
IUHIST.XML and ITEM.XML files so that I can display it in a nice pretty
format in the browser. I could also then offer it on my online site... any
takers? I'm thinking about doing it, but I don't know the XSLT language yet.

--Wayne

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ramstryke

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Mar 24, 2003, 7:55:26 PM3/24/03
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Has anyone tried the HfNtChkPro from Shavlik.com Now that looks way better
than SUS. Except it's not free.


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