Spybot say REGFIX.EXE is a threat - why?
Terry Pinnell
arises from a free registry repairing utility called RegCure, which
has a poor reputation. Over-hyped, useless, grayware, etc. Lots of
criticism found from a few minutes googling.
But I haven't seen a single solid piece of objective evidence (in
contrast to idle rumour and speculation) that it is either a virus or
a trojan or any other sort of malware. Is it?
If not, why does Spybot report Regfix.exe as a threat?
BTW, doesn't Spybot offer the option of studying *details* of its
results? A single word 'RegistryFix.exe' doesn't tell you much. In
some other programs I recall being able to read details of the
entries. Maybe there's a setting in Spybot I've missed?
--
Terry, East Grinstead, UK
jen
news:jfkfv357f7vreo52m...@4ax.com...
Go here:
http://forums.spybot.info/forumdisplay.php?f=16
-jen
Sirtokalott
when it makes changes after a scan. Basically if you have done nothing and
then the message suddenly appears I would not allow it, however if you have
instigated something, e.g. installing a programme and you get the warning
then allow it
Leythos
--
- Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum.
- Calling an illegal alien an "undocumented worker" is like calling a
drug dealer an "unlicensed pharmacist"
spam9...@rrohio.com (remove 999 for proper email address)
jen
news:MPG.227c2c462...@adfree.usenet.com...
> http://vil.nai.com/vil/content/v_136099.htm
Sheesh, ppl... The article you're responding to was posted Sat, Apr 5
2008 3:29 pm. Op found his answer long ago on the Spybot forum ;)
-jen
Leythos
says...
I replied to a post from the 25th of this month, maybe you should look
at dates and threading yourself.
jen
> In article <OWZyO5yp...@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl>, j...@example.com
> says...
>> "Leythos" <vo...@nowhere.lan> wrote in message
>> news:MPG.227c2c462...@adfree.usenet.com...
>> > http://vil.nai.com/vil/content/v_136099.htm
>> Sheesh, ppl... The article you're responding to was posted Sat, Apr
>> 5
>> 2008 3:29 pm. Op found his answer long ago on the Spybot forum ;)
> I replied to a post from the 25th of this month, maybe you should look
> at dates and threading yourself.
Thats why i wrote: "Sheesh, *ppl*" ;) The OP(Original Poster) that the
poster you replied to was replying to, posted his questions on the 5th.
Sheesh!
FYI the thread:
http://groups.google.com/group/microsoft.public.security.virus/browse_thread/thread/a72164b67227ee0d/8df314c6c7bc5bcb?hide_quotes=no#msg_b1e8079d7bb4ecca
HTH,
-jen
Leythos
> "Leythos" <vo...@nowhere.lan> wrote in message
> news:MPG.227d1d98...@adfree.usenet.com...
> > In article <OWZyO5yp...@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl>, j...@example.com
> > says...
> >> "Leythos" <vo...@nowhere.lan> wrote in message
> >> news:MPG.227c2c462...@adfree.usenet.com...
> >> > http://vil.nai.com/vil/content/v_136099.htm
> >> Sheesh, ppl... The article you're responding to was posted Sat, Apr
> >> 5
> >> 2008 3:29 pm. Op found his answer long ago on the Spybot forum ;)
> > I replied to a post from the 25th of this month, maybe you should look
> > at dates and threading yourself.
>
> Thats why i wrote: "Sheesh, *ppl*" ;) The OP(Original Poster) that the
> poster you replied to was replying to, posted his questions on the 5th.
> Sheesh!
> FYI the thread:
> http://groups.google.com/group/microsoft.public.security.virus/browse_thread/thread/a72164b67227ee0d/8df314c6c7bc5bcb?hide_quotes=no#msg_b1e8079d7bb4ecca
>
jen
> In article <es4IkH9p...@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl>, j...@example.com
> says...
>> "Leythos" <vo...@nowhere.lan> wrote in message
>> news:MPG.227d1d98...@adfree.usenet.com...
>> > In article <OWZyO5yp...@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl>, j...@example.com
>> > says...
>> >> "Leythos" <vo...@nowhere.lan> wrote in message
>> >> news:MPG.227c2c462...@adfree.usenet.com...
>> >> > http://vil.nai.com/vil/content/v_136099.htm
>> >> Sheesh, ppl... The article you're responding to was posted Sat,
>> >> Apr
>> >> 5
>> >> 2008 3:29 pm. Op found his answer long ago on the Spybot forum ;)
>> > I replied to a post from the 25th of this month, maybe you should
>> > look
>> > at dates and threading yourself.
>> Thats why i wrote: "Sheesh, *ppl*" ;) The OP(Original Poster) that
>> the
>> poster you replied to was replying to, posted his questions on the
>> 5th.
>> Sheesh!
>> FYI the thread:
http://groups.google.com/group/microsoft.public.security.virus/browse_thread/thread/a72164b67227ee0d/8df314c6c7bc5bcb?hide_quotes=no#msg_b1e8079d7bb4ecca
> No honorable person uses Google Groups, this is Usenet.
No, this is not Usenet. It is MS's server, whom allows archiving by
Google and allows other NSP's to carry their groups. But it certainly
is *not* Usenet... I don't use Google Groups. I am on MS's server
ATM.
BTW, Google archives is *not* Google Groups, lol!
-jen
Leythos
No, it is USENET, and many companies, like MS, connect their Usenet
(NEWS) feeds to Usenet, like MS has done.
If you are using a MS Usenet server via Outlook Express or a real Usenet
client tool, then good for you. If you are using a WEB interface to the
Usenet Groups, even on a MS server, it's a port/interface to Usenet
server owned by MS.
Look up Usenet and learn a little about it.
Oh, and Google doesn't give a rats butt about what MS permits, Usenet is
open to anyone and everyone and you are free to archive any part of it
that you want.
jen
I'm afraid you're the one who needs to learn what Usenet is and is not
;) If MS didn't want Google to archive their groups articles, then
Google would have to stop, as has happened with quite a few
servers(including mine). All you have to do is look at the headers to
see where an article is being posted from, if you know how, that is ;)
Microsoft does *not* peer with any other newsservers, and is *not* a
part of Usenet, peroid. Do your homework...
-jen
pcbutts1 [MS MVP]
you like he does me.
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"jen" <j...@example.com> wrote in message
news:uB3yHt%23pIH...@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
Leythos
@leythosthestalker.com says...
> Umm Jen, you are arguing with a troll. Be careful he might start stalking
> you like he does me.
Considering you're not an MVP, considering you've posted links to the
porn you host on your site to many Usenet groups, considering that none
of the MVP's believe you.....
This is Usenet, even if you have a Web interface to it.
FromTheRafters
> "Leythos" <vo...@nowhere.lan> wrote in message
> news:MPG.227d55ea4...@adfree.usenet.com...
>> In article <es4IkH9p...@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl>, j...@example.com
>> says...
>>> "Leythos" <vo...@nowhere.lan> wrote in message
>>> news:MPG.227d1d98...@adfree.usenet.com...
>>> > In article <OWZyO5yp...@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl>, j...@example.com
>>> > says...
>>> >> "Leythos" <vo...@nowhere.lan> wrote in message
>>> >> news:MPG.227c2c462...@adfree.usenet.com...
>>> >> > http://vil.nai.com/vil/content/v_136099.htm
>>> >> Sheesh, ppl... The article you're responding to was posted Sat, Apr
>>> >> 5
>>> >> 2008 3:29 pm. Op found his answer long ago on the Spybot forum ;)
>>> > I replied to a post from the 25th of this month, maybe you should look
>>> > at dates and threading yourself.
>>> Thats why i wrote: "Sheesh, *ppl*" ;) The OP(Original Poster) that the
>>> poster you replied to was replying to, posted his questions on the 5th.
>>> Sheesh!
>>> FYI the thread:
> http://groups.google.com/group/microsoft.public.security.virus/browse_thread/thread/a72164b67227ee0d/8df314c6c7bc5bcb?hide_quotes=no#msg_b1e8079d7bb4ecca
>> No honorable person uses Google Groups, this is Usenet.
>
> No, this is not Usenet.
Yes, it is. The NNTP protocol - newsgroups - usenet.
It is MS's server,
MS's *news* server (NNTP)
> whom allows archiving by Google and allows other NSP's to carry their
> groups. But it certainly is *not* Usenet...
Yes, it is.
> I don't use Google Groups. I am on MS's server ATM.
MS's *news* server.
> BTW, Google archives is *not* Google Groups, lol!
Google provides a web interface to usenet newsgroups. It is
still usenet.
FromTheRafters
Microsoft's servers don't seem to carry any non-microsoft groups, but they
do
use the NNTP protocol for usenet.
Leythos
says...
> Microsoft's servers don't seem to carry any non-microsoft groups, but they
> do use the NNTP protocol for usenet.
If she checks she will find that many ISP/Business and even personal
servers carry the MS groups, once MS makes them public any Usenet server
can subscribe to them.
FromTheRafters
"Leythos" <vo...@nowhere.lan> wrote in message
> In article <OX4qnxAq...@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl>, Err...@ne.rr.com
> says...
>> Microsoft's servers don't seem to carry any non-microsoft groups, but
>> they
>> do use the NNTP protocol for usenet.
>
> If she checks she will find that many ISP/Business and even personal
> servers carry the MS groups, once MS makes them public any Usenet server
> can subscribe to them.
...or archive them.
In a sense, NNTP goes beyond USENET and can be used
outside of usenet at large. Jen posting from there makes the
statement true for her except for the fact that her posts are
broadcast and propagated to usenet at large.
So *this* is usenet, but what she experiences is microsoft's
microcosm of newsgroups because of the limits imposed by
microsoft by only carrying their groups.
jen
"Leythos" <vo...@nowhere.lan> wrote in message
> > not ;)
> > If MS didn't want Google to archive their groups articles, then
> > would have to stop, as has happened with quite a few
> > servers(including
> > mine). All you have to do is look at the headers to see where an
> > article
> > is being posted from, if you know how, that is ;) Microsoft does
> > *not*
> > peer with any other newsservers, and is *not* a part of Usenet,
> > peroid.
> > Do your homework...
> > > but they
> > > do use the NNTP protocol for usenet.
> If she checks she will find that many ISP/Business and even personal
> servers carry the MS groups, once MS makes them public any Usenet
> server
> can subscribe to them.
What makes you think I'm a "she"? My nym is *not* a name... You seem
to be very presumptive ;) From the "horses mouth":
What are the Microsoft newsgroups?
"For a number of years, Microsoft has created the Microsoft.public
newsgroup hierarchy and made it *available to anyone ON the Usenet*(my
emphasis)".
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=fh;%5Bln%5D;newswhelp
Also see here:
[FAQ] How to add the microsoft.* hierarchy to a news server:
Last-modified: 2007/08/02
Microsoft created Microsoft public discussions covering many Microsoft
products, technologies, and topics because of the value of finding out
what your peers think and getting information from people who use the
same products and technologies you use.
The Microsoft public discussions have been available to anyone on
Usenet for a number of years.
http://www.trigofacile.com/divers/usenet/clefs/microsoft-faq.txt
Microsoft *is not* a part of Usenet. They simply make their *.public*
groups "available to anyone ON the Usenet". Get it yet? I'm not going
to waste any more of my time educating you. As I said before, do your
homework!
-jen
jen
news:eQht0JKq...@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
I'm simply using MS's newsserver ATM for their groups. My own
newsserver carries *all* the hierarchies... To be on MS's server for
their groups is more desirable to me.
-jen(not a name)
Leythos
says...
I agree, with this change - MS is doing their part on Usenet service in
the facilities, they ARE using Usenet and have also provided a web
interface for it.
Leythos
says...
> Microsoft *is not* a part of Usenet. They simply make their *.public*
Again, you're missing the point - they have a Usenet service, it's the
root of their "Groups" that you are using - it IS the infrastructure,
the foundation, the technology that they use to build from.
Yes, they make select parts available to other feeds, and they have a
private Usenet server also - you have to authenticate with it to access
it, but that is part of Usenet methods and it is Usenet.
Don't mistake Usenet for the part that is public, and not every Usenet
provider carries the same groups, some only carry a fraction, some limit
you monthly byte count, etc....
Again, MS is using a News Server that is based on what we all use as
Usenet, and they provide the masses that don't know about Usenet with a
web interface to it also.
jen
The NNTP *protocal* That MS newsserver uses IS NOT USENET, period. I
see you *still* don't get it... Oh well...
-jen
jen
> In article <#wZ44TKq...@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl>, j...@example.com
> says...
>> Microsoft *is not* a part of Usenet. They simply make their
>> *.public*
> Again, you're missing the point - they have a Usenet service, it's the
> root of their "Groups" that you are using - it IS the infrastructure,
> the foundation, the technology that they use to build from.
> Yes, they make select parts available to other feeds, and they have a
> private Usenet server also - you have to authenticate with it to
> access
> it, but that is part of Usenet methods and it is Usenet.
> Don't mistake Usenet for the part that is public, and not every Usenet
> provider carries the same groups, some only carry a fraction, some
> limit
> you monthly byte count, etc....
> Again, MS is using a News Server that is based on what we all use as
> Usenet, and they provide the masses that don't know about Usenet with
> a
> web interface to it also.
You're the one missing the point ;) It's very simple, really...
The NNTP *protocal* That MS' newsserver uses IS NOT USENET, period. I
see you *still* don't get it... Oh well...
Do your homewark!
-jen
Leythos
says...
Do your homework yourself. Usenet is what is available, based on the
defined structure, and it could encompass public and private servers
where private servers allow public connections.
Here is a link to what you should understand about Usenet:
http://www.faqs.org/faqs/usenet/what-is/part1/
jen
Usenet is a peer to peer network of "servers"(look it up). Microsoft
does *not* peer with *any* other newsservers, therefore
msnews.microsoft.com is *not* a part of Usenet, period. It appears you
cannot understand simple logic...
Case closed.
-jen
Leythos
Yes, MS does peer with other servers. I post to a non-MS Usenet server,
my posts show up on the MS servers as they peer with outside sources.
You can apologize now.
jen
I too, can post to MS newsgroups from my ISP's newsserver if I choose
to... That only means your newsserver admin has added the
microsoft.public.* hierarchy to their newsserver, *Not that they PEER
with msnews.microsoft.com. Sheesh!
"For a number of years, Microsoft has created the Microsoft.public
newsgroup hierarchy and made it *available to anyone ON the Usenet*(my
emphasis)".
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=fh;%5Bln%5D;newswhelp
Can you not comprehend this?:
[FAQ] How to add the microsoft.* hierarchy to a news server:
Last-modified: 2007/08/02
Microsoft created Microsoft public discussions covering many Microsoft
products, technologies, and topics because of the value of finding out
what your peers think and getting information from people who use the
same products and technologies you use.
The Microsoft public discussions have been available to anyone on
Usenet for a number of years.
http://www.trigofacile.com/divers/usenet/clefs/microsoft-faq.txt
I repeat, *Usenet is a peer to peer network of "servers"(look it up).
Microsoft
does *NOT* peer with *any* other newsservers*, therefore Microsoft *is
not* a part of Usenet. They simply make their *.public.* groups
"available to anyone ON the Usenet". Sink in yet? Come back when you
can comprehend simple logic ;)
-jen(not a name)
Leythos
says...
> I repeat, *Usenet is a peer to peer network of "servers"(look it up).
> Microsoft
> does *NOT* peer with *any* other newsservers*, therefore Microsoft *is
> not* a part of Usenet. They simply make their *.public.* groups
> "available to anyone ON the Usenet". Sink in yet? Come back when you
> can comprehend simple logic ;)
Jen, you are wrong, you don't understand how it works.
You almost get it right and then you screw up because you clearly don't
understand how it works.
Leo
--
Leo
"I contend that, for a nation to try to tax itself into prosperity, is
like a man standing in a bucket and trying to lift himself up by the
handle." - Winston Churchill
"Leythos" <vo...@nowhere.lan> wrote in message
news:MPG.227fc1e0...@adfree.usenet.com...
FromTheRafters
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=fh;%5Bln%5D;newswhelp
NNTP
"Network News Transport Protocol, " the name of a protocol that controls the
request and exchange of Usenet messages.
News
The generic name for the Usenet.
Post
An individual Usenet message. Also, the act of sending an individual Usenet
message to a server that will display it in the newsgroup.
Usenet
The collection of all posts publicly distributed through NNTP.
***
It's starting to look like this *is* usenet even for you -
From your headers in your last *post* to this *newsgroup* using NNTP
X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138
Newsgroups: microsoft.public.security.virus
NNTP-Posting-Host: adsl-150-224-76.tys.bellsouth.net 72.150.224.76
Anyways, it's *news* to me :o)
Leythos
says...
> Anyways, it's *news* to me :o)
>
jen
NNTP-Posting-Host: tells us with which *machine* a message originated
(if not spoofed ;)
> Anyways, it's *news* to me :o)
Did you miss this in my headers? ;)
Message-ID: <OEL3YETq...@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl>( MS news server)
(a unique ID assigned to this particular message by the news server (if
not spoofed ;)
Path: TK2MSFTNGP01.phx.gbl!TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl (MS news server ;)
(Path: header shows, from first to last, the news server from which you
read the message, all the news servers through which it was passed, and
lastly the news server where the message originated)
I never said "this is not Usenet"(whatever that means to you :) I
merely stated msnews.microsoft.com
is *not* a *part of Usenet* due to the fact they do not PEER with any
other newsservers. Why do you think other News Admins need a special
FAQ in order to add the microsoft.public.* hierarchy to their
newsservers to make MS' groups *available to anyone *ON* the Usenet*?
http://www.trigofacile.com/divers/usenet/clefs/microsoft-faq.txt
If you log on to msnews.microsoft.com(a *private* server) you do not
need to go through Usenet(via *your* NSP *if they happen to carry the
microsoft.public.* hierarchy) to post or read on their groups... There
are *many* private newsservers on the net(Using the NNTP protocol and
*not* on the Usenet) who chose *not* to make their groups *available to
anyone *ON* the Usenet*(you *have* to logon to their server to
read/post). Microsoft *chose* to make their groups *available to
anyone *ON* the Usenet*( if the NSP's admin adds the microsoft.public.*
hierarchy). See link above...
Capisc?
-jen
jen
> In article <OEL3YETq...@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl>, j...@example.com
> says...
>> I repeat, *Usenet is a peer to peer network of "servers"(look it up).
>> Microsoft
>> does *NOT* peer with *any* other newsservers*, therefore Microsoft
>> *is
>> not* a part of Usenet. They simply make their *.public.* groups
>> "available to anyone ON the Usenet". Sink in yet? Come back when
>> you
>> can comprehend simple logic ;)
> Jen, you are wrong, you don't understand how it works.
> You almost get it right and then you screw up because you clearly
> don't
> understand how it works.
You clearly don't understand the simple fact that in order for
msnews.microsoft.com to be *a part of Usenet*, they *have* to *PEER*
with other newsservers. Microsoft does *NOT* peer with *any* other
newsservers*, therefore msnews.microsoft.com *is not* a part of Usenet.
They simply make their *.public.* groups "available to anyone *ON* the
Usenet"(if a NSP's admin adds the microsoft.public.* hierarchy).
If you can *prove* otherwise, I'll be glad to "apologize" ;)
-jen
Tom [Pepper] Willett
organizations set up their own nntp servers. Examples include the newsgroups
Microsoft run to allow peer-to-peer support of their products"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Newsgroup
"jen" <j...@example.com> wrote in message
news:urYpcgh...@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
: "Leythos" <vo...@nowhere.lan> wrote in message
:
:
:
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:
:
Tom [Pepper] Willett
were more than 100,000 newsgroups. Each newsgroup is named according to a
hierarchical convention. Categories such as "rec," "comp," or "misc"
identify the general subject of the newsgroup. Additional terms are
sometimes added, uniquely defining the newsgroup within a collection of
others. Examples: comp.lang.perl.misc, rec.pets.cats,
Microsoft.public.access."
http://www.microsoft.com/communities/guide/newsgroupfaq.mspx
"jen" <j...@example.com> wrote in message
news:urYpcgh...@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
: "Leythos" <vo...@nowhere.lan> wrote in message
:
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Leythos
says...
Jen, you just don't seem to understand, MS is peering or they would not
show my posts to my Usenet provider on THEIR servers, and I would not
see their posts on my providers servers either.
Face it, you're completely wrong here - you might want to chat with one
of the old Usenet admins, the ones before they farmed support for it
out, and they would explain it to you.
jen
Thank you, I have my *own* old newsserver admin. There is, and never
has been, an "Usenet admin" :)
-jen(not a name, therefore not capitalized ;)
Leythos
The usenet servers all over the world have admins that run them, they
are their own kingdoms and they control them. In the old days we use to
cancel ot post and stuff that we didn't like in chartered groups, today
it's mostly let run loose.
MS had Usenet server admins, several of them, and they run a Usenet
server that peers with others, that's how your provider gets the info.
You are right, technically, there is not SINGLE Usenet admin, but each
server or farm has admins that control their own servers, so, at their
location there is a Usenet Admin.
FromTheRafters
on the server (he?) uses. You said "no it isn't", in response
to a post from (him?) on the server you use.
By the glossary entries on the very URL you yourself provided
to substantiate your claim, I posted excerpts from your message
header to show that it was indeed a usenet post - using MS's
own glossary entries.
Actually, I don't give a crap one way or the other. Discussions
like this bring about some interesting reading when URL's are
actually investigated though.
> I never said "this is not Usenet"(whatever that means to you :) I
> merely stated msnews.microsoft.com
> is *not* a *part of Usenet* due to the fact they do not PEER with any
> other newsservers.
Sure, that's what you say *now*, but your posted usenet article :oP
indicates otherwise.
Anyway, no more responses from me in this thread no matter how
much your next usenet post tries to egg me on.
:o)
Leythos
says...
> Anyway, no more responses from me in this thread no matter how
> much your next usenet post tries to egg me on.
>
I agree and should not have let myself be trolled like that.
jen
"FromTheRafters" <Err...@ne.rr.com> wrote in message
news:%23a%231mAWq...@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> Glossary entries from one of the URL's you provided:
> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=fh;%5Bln%5D;newswhelp
> NNTP
> "Network News Transport Protocol, " the name of a protocol that
> controls the request and exchange of Usenet messages.
> News
> The generic name for the Usenet.
> Post
> An individual Usenet message. Also, the act of sending an individual
> Usenet message to a server that will display it in the newsgroup.
> Usenet
> The collection of all posts publicly distributed through NNTP.
> ***
> It's starting to look like this *is* usenet even for you -
> From your headers in your last *post* to this *newsgroup* using NNTP
> X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138
> Newsgroups: microsoft.public.security.virus
> NNTP-Posting-Host: adsl-150-224-76.tys.bellsouth.net 72.150.224.76
*jen replied:
NNTP-Posting-Host: tells us with which *machine* a message originated
(if not spoofed ;)
> Anyways, it's *news* to me :o)
*jen replied:
Did you miss this in my headers? ;)
Message-ID: <OEL3YETq...@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl>( MS news server)
(a unique ID assigned to this particular message by the news server (if
not spoofed ;)
Path: TK2MSFTNGP01.phx.gbl!TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl (MS news server ;)
(Path: header shows, from first to last, the news server from which you
read the message, all the news servers through which it was passed, and
lastly the news server where the message originated)
I never said "this is not Usenet"(whatever that means to you :) I
merely stated msnews.microsoft.com
is *not* a *part of Usenet* due to the fact they do not PEER with any
other newsservers. Why do you think other News Admins need a special
FAQ in order to add the microsoft.public.* hierarchy to their
newsservers to make MS' groups *available to anyone *ON* the Usenet*?
http://www.trigofacile.com/divers/usenet/clefs/microsoft-faq.txt
If you log on to msnews.microsoft.com(a *private* server) you do not
need to go through Usenet(via *your* NSP *if they happen to carry the
microsoft.public.* hierarchy) to post or read on their groups... There
are *many* private newsservers on the net(Using the NNTP protocol and
*not* on the Usenet) who chose *not* to make their groups *available to
anyone *ON* the Usenet*(you *have* to logon to their server to
read/post). Microsoft *chose* to make their groups *available to
anyone *ON* the Usenet*( if the NSP's admin adds the microsoft.public.*
hierarchy). See link above...
Capisc?
-jen
"FromTheRafters" <Err...@ne.rr.com> wrote in message
news:eJpSXxlq...@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
*Straw Man response noted ;)
[A straw man argument is an informal fallacy based on misrepresentation
of an opponent's position. To "set up a straw man" or "set up a straw
man argument" is to describe a position that superficially resembles an
opponent's actual view but is easier to refute, then attribute that
position to the opponent (for example, deliberately overstating the
opponent's position). A straw man argument can be a successful
rhetorical technique (that is, it may succeed in persuading people) but
it carries little or no real evidential weight, because the opponent's
actual argument has not been refuted).]
-jen