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Yuri Nalysis
"FromTheRafters" <erratic @nomail.afraid.org> wrote in message
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: Is there anyone home?
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Nobody
"Yuri Nalysis" <yu...@nalysis.invalid> wrote in message
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> Why would there be if it's shut down?
Looks like people can still post though...
Yuri Nalysis
eternal-september. MS shut down their own servers. The newsgroup names will
live on as long as there is a NNTP servert that still carries them. But, the
experts and MVPs are migrating to the fourms. (That's where they'll get
credit for helping and posting). And, an awful lot of posters have left.
Notice how the traffic is almost nil?
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: "Yuri Nalysis" <yu...@nalysis.invalid> wrote in message
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VanguardLH
> Sure. Anyone can post thru a 3rd party NNTP server such as
> eternal-september. MS shut down their own servers. The newsgroup
> names will live on as long as there is a NNTP servert that still
> carries them. But, the experts and MVPs are migrating to the fourms.
No, they aren't migrating. They were already there before. Those that
aren't there aren't going there, either. If they were willing to
tolerate the inane and crippled interface for Microsoft's web-based
forums for boobs then they were already there before Microsoft ever made
an announcement about discontinuing their 4-year experiment of trying to
usurp Usenet. If they don't want to waste time with a deficient web
forums (and which do not have the granularity of newsgroups) then
they're staying here in Usenet - where they probably started!
> (That's where they'll get credit for helping and posting).
Only neophyte or boobs that have been newly granted MVP status give a
gnat's fart about the scoring in the web-based forums. Real or seasoned
MVPs don't care about the ratings that are so inconsistent regarding
ratings as to be worthless. If an MVP is so ego-sensitive as to be
worried about the wildly erratic and temperamental ratings then they
haven't been around long enough or often enough to yet matter as an MVP.
Also, don't get too hung up on the MVP badge. There are plenty of
regulars that are equally or better qualified than many MVPs for
responding to or helping users with their problems or questions.
Besides, no MVP is a Microsoft employee so all the MVP badge does is
indicate a history of helpfulness but the lack of the MVP badge does NOT
impugn that a long-time regular is any less capable, Some nominates
have declined the MVP badge since its ownership may actually quash their
personality. They feel they might lose that badge and be so blandly
professional to the point of emoting a neutered personality. Even a
cantankerous SOB may provide the answer you need. Thin-skinned egos
don't last long in Usenet and why users often like the comfy womb of
web-based forums.
> And, an awful lot of posters have left. Notice how the traffic is
> almost nil?
An awful lot of noobs never posted here in Usenet through Microsoft's
pretend "Community" forums which were gatewayed to and leeched from
Usenet. Instead they posted to the social and answers forums that were
never gatewayed to Usenet. In fact, there is not a one-to-one
correspondence between the newsgroups and forums - and many newsgroups
have no counterpart for a forum! These noobs couldn't figure out how to
use a newsreader or even expend the effort to find out of where to
connect. They barely know how to use their web browser so they got
stuck with using the oh-so-wonderful web-based forums which lack all the
organizational features of an NNTP client.
Users that have posted in Usenet in the microsoft.public.* newsgroups
will find the web-based forums highly disappointing.
Yuri Nalysis
Notice there is little or no posting in these MS NNTP groups?
Notice that the regulars, other then pretentious condescending HoopleHeads
like you have migrated?
You'd be surprised how important it is to many MVPs to get their "points"
because the want to be renewed.
Get your head out of the sand, Beavis.
David H. Lipman
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@nomail.afraid.org FromTheRafters
"David H. Lipman" <DLipman~nospam~@Verizon.Net> wrote in message
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> From: "FromTheRafters" <erratic @nomail.afraid.org>
>
> | Is there anyone home?
>
>
> Just nod if you can hear me...
>
> Is there anyone at home?
I..........have become ...comfortably numb...
@nomail.afraid.org FromTheRafters
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@nomail.afraid.org FromTheRafters
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> Yuri Nalysis wrote:
>
>> Sure. Anyone can post thru a 3rd party NNTP server such as
>> eternal-september. MS shut down their own servers. The newsgroup
>> names will live on as long as there is a NNTP servert that still
>> carries them. But, the experts and MVPs are migrating to the fourms.
>
> No, they aren't migrating. They were already there before. Those that
> aren't there aren't going there, either. If they were willing to
> tolerate the inane and crippled interface for Microsoft's web-based
> forums for boobs then they were already there before Microsoft ever made
> an announcement about discontinuing their 4-year experiment of trying to
> usurp Usenet.
:o)
> If they don't want to waste time with a deficient web
> forums (and which do not have the granularity of newsgroups) then
> they're staying here in Usenet - where they probably started!
>> (That's where they'll get credit for helping and posting).
Is that like getting a star on your forehead?
> Only neophyte or boobs that have been newly granted MVP status give a
> gnat's fart about the scoring in the web-based forums. Real or seasoned
> MVPs don't care about the ratings that are so inconsistent regarding
> ratings as to be worthless. If an MVP is so ego-sensitive as to be
> worried about the wildly erratic and temperamental ratings then they
> haven't been around long enough or often enough to yet matter as an MVP.
>
> Also, don't get too hung up on the MVP badge. There are plenty of
> regulars that are equally or better qualified than many MVPs for
> responding to or helping users with their problems or questions.
> Besides, no MVP is a Microsoft employee so all the MVP badge does is
> indicate a history of helpfulness but the lack of the MVP badge does NOT
> impugn that a long-time regular is any less capable, Some nominates
> have declined the MVP badge since its ownership may actually quash their
> personality. They feel they might lose that badge and be so blandly
> professional to the point of emoting a neutered personality. Even a
> cantankerous SOB may provide the answer you need. Thin-skinned egos
> don't last long in Usenet and why users often like the comfy womb of
> web-based forums.
>
>> And, an awful lot of posters have left. Notice how the traffic is
>> almost nil?
Self-fulfilling prophecy.
> An awful lot of noobs never posted here in Usenet through Microsoft's
> pretend "Community" forums which were gatewayed to and leeched from
> Usenet. Instead they posted to the social and answers forums that were
> never gatewayed to Usenet. In fact, there is not a one-to-one
> correspondence between the newsgroups and forums - and many newsgroups
> have no counterpart for a forum! These noobs couldn't figure out how to
> use a newsreader or even expend the effort to find out of where to
> connect. They barely know how to use their web browser so they got
> stuck with using the oh-so-wonderful web-based forums which lack all the
> organizational features of an NNTP client.
>
> Users that have posted in Usenet in the microsoft.public.* newsgroups
> will find the web-based forums highly disappointing.
[x] <=========== vote for VanguardLH
David H. Lipman
>> | Is there anyone home?
| I..........have become ...comfortably numb...
:-)
"In the lazy water meadow, I lay me down. All around me golden sun flakes covering the
ground.
Basking in the sunshine of a bygone afternoon, bringing sounds of yesterday into this city
room."
VanguardLH
So you must've been one of those kids that beamed when they brought home
a report from the teacher with a bunch of self-stick shiny stars on it.
VanguardLH
> Yuri Nalysis wrote:
>
>> Hey, HoopleHead:
>>
>> Notice there is little or no posting in these MS NNTP groups?
>>
>> Notice that the regulars, other then pretentious condescending HoopleHeads
>> like you have migrated?
>>
>> You'd be surprised how important it is to many MVPs to get their "points"
>> because the want to be renewed.
>>
>> Get your head out of the sand, Beavis.
And it is just these kind of immature posts that will not be missed
here. Go join your noob brethern over in the web forums; however, I
doubt they will really appreciate your "[t]wit" over there.
By the way, Usenet was NOT designed for the common boob wanting help
with their OS or software. It wasn't until AOL dumped them into Usenet
that we got flooded with the undetailed "don't work" posts. Look at the
users using a web interface and posting through Microsoft's leeching
gateway to Usenet. They were only slightly better than Google Groupers:
no details, wrong or made up terminology, never even read a Dummies book
on their problematic OS or app, knee-jerk posting, no initiative to
research their own problem, lack of caps or punctuation, overuse of
chatspeak or texting shorthand, don't bother to review their post before
submitting it, and too often wrote like 5-year olds.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eternal_september
Usenet wasn't designed for the lazy web-using folks. That these same
boobs are now forced to post in Microsoft's web-based forums (because
they don't know how to use Usenet) is a bad thing? Hardly. Quantity
does not equate to quality. What *is* important is response time and
the usability of that response. Posting in a dead newsgroup means not
resolving your problem. Posting in a less noisy newsgroup rife with
undetailed posts but getting answers is still what Usenet is about.
Volume is unimportant. Answers are.
Having less noise in the newsgroup now means those that continue to
inhabit these newsgroups will have less crap to filter through to find
posts that they even want to bother reading and perhaps may choose to
provide help. Before there was a lot of fluff to filter through to find
posts that you cared to respond to. With Microsoft's leaving Usenet,
it's the best filtering that could've happened here. We now have a
chance to recover from the webnews leeching gateway to Usenet; however,
I do appreciate the detailed granularity of the numerous newsgroups that
allow focusing on a particular topic. To that I tip my hat to Microsoft
for taking the trouble to create these newsgroups in Usenet.
@nomail.afraid.org FromTheRafters
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Well stated, VanguardLH!
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"David H. Lipman" <DLipman~nospam~@Verizon.Net> wrote in message
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Nobody
> Sure. Anyone can post thru a 3rd party NNTP server such as
> eternal-september. MS shut down their own servers. The newsgroup
> names will
> live on as long as there is a NNTP servert that still carries them.
> But, the
> experts and MVPs are migrating to the fourms. (That's where they'll
> get
> credit for helping and posting). And, an awful lot of posters have
> left.
> Notice how the traffic is almost nil?
>
forums that MS is running.
@nomail.afraid.org FromTheRafters
At least we'll still have the occasional egghead or techarena post for comic
relief now that the MS vector is gone.
@nomail.afraid.org FromTheRafters
...it's like having a roll-call after a disaster.
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What's in a Name?
<DLipman~nospam~@verizon.net> wrote:
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> | "David H. Lipman" <DLipman~nospam~@Verizon.Net> wrote in message
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>>> From: "FromTheRafters" <erratic @nomail.afraid.org>
>
>>> | Is there anyone home?
>
>
>>> Just nod if you can hear me...
>
>>> Is there anyone at home?
>
> | I..........have become ...comfortably numb...
>
> :-)
>
> "In the lazy water meadow, I lay me down. All around me golden sun
> flakes covering the
> ground.
> Basking in the sunshine of a bygone afternoon, bringing sounds of
> yesterday into this city
> room."
>
>
>
I still feel that the dark side of the moon was their best. And the best
rock album ever.
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David H. Lipman
| On Mon, 28 Jun 2010 22:01:59 -0400, David H. Lipman
| <DLipman~nospam~@verizon.net> wrote:
>> From: "FromTheRafters" <erratic @nomail.afraid.org>
>> | "David H. Lipman" <DLipman~nospam~@Verizon.Net> wrote in message
>> | news:i0b0k...@news3.newsguy.com...
>>>> From: "FromTheRafters" <erratic @nomail.afraid.org>
>>>> | Is there anyone home?
>>>> Just nod if you can hear me...
>>>> Is there anyone at home?
>> | I..........have become ...comfortably numb...
>> :-)
>> "In the lazy water meadow, I lay me down. All around me golden sun
>> flakes covering the
>> ground.
>> Basking in the sunshine of a bygone afternoon, bringing sounds of
>> yesterday into this city
>> room."
I luv the stuff with Sid Barett but I luv all Pink Floyd from Ummagumma to Roger Waters
solo.
Saucerful of Secrets.
Several speciofs of small fury animals...
Live at Pompeii
Learning to fly
The Wall movie
Set the control for the heart of the sun
Atom heart mother
What's in a Name?
<DLipman~nospam~@verizon.net> wrote:
I saw an old tape of them on the bbc the other day.
very cool
David H. Lipman
>> I luv the stuff with Sid Barett but I luv all Pink Floyd from Ummagumma
>> to Roger Waters
>> solo.
>> Saucerful of Secrets.
>> Several speciofs of small fury animals...
>> Live at Pompeii
>> Learning to fly
>> The Wall movie
>> Set the control for the heart of the sun
>> Atom heart mother
| I saw an old tape of them on the bbc the other day.
| very cool
I've see some archival stuff in VH1. Said much about Sid and his state of mind at the
time.
Which explains...
I've got a bike.
You can ride it if you like.
It's got a basket, a bell that rings,
and things to make it look good.
I'd give it to you if I could, but I borrowed it.
You're the kind of girl that fits in with my world.
I'll give you anything, everything, if you want things.
I've got a cloak, it's a bit of a joke.
There's a tear up the front, it's red and black,
I've had it for months.
If you think it could look good then I guess it should.
You're the kind of girl that fits in with my world
I'll give you anything, everything, if you want things
I know a mouse and he hasn't got a house.
I don't know why I call him Gerald.
He's getting rather old but he's a good mouse.
You're the kind of girl that fits in with my world.
I'll give you anything, everything, if you want things.
I've got a clan of gingerbread men.
Here a man, there a man, lots of gingerbread men.
Take a couple if you wish, they're on the dish.
You're the kind of girl that fits in with my world.
I'll give you anything, everything, if you want things
I know a room of musical tunes.
Some rhyme, some ching, most of them are clockwork.
Let's go into the other room and make them work.
@nomail.afraid.org FromTheRafters
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> On Mon, 28 Jun 2010 22:01:59 -0400, David H. Lipman
> <DLipman~nospam~@verizon.net> wrote:
>
>> From: "FromTheRafters" <erratic @nomail.afraid.org>
>>
>>
>> | "David H. Lipman" <DLipman~nospam~@Verizon.Net> wrote in message
>> | news:i0b0k...@news3.newsguy.com...
>>>> From: "FromTheRafters" <erratic @nomail.afraid.org>
>>
>>>> | Is there anyone home?
>>
>>
>>>> Just nod if you can hear me...
>>
>>>> Is there anyone at home?
>>
>> | I..........have become ...comfortably numb...
>>
>> :-)
>>
>> "In the lazy water meadow, I lay me down. All around me golden sun
>> flakes covering the
>> ground.
>> Basking in the sunshine of a bygone afternoon, bringing sounds of
>> yesterday into this city
>> room."
>>
>>
>>
>
> I still feel that the dark side of the moon was their best. And the best
> rock album ever.
I agree inasmuch as it was their best commercial product. I liked *all* of
their stuff - especially the older efforts.
@nomail.afraid.org FromTheRafters
It's really sad about Sid, but it is good that the rest of the band had the
talent to carry on.
After listening to the avant guard sounds and ballads (Green Is The Colour),
I was surprised by "The Nile Song" on the "More" soundtrack album.
Just curious, did you also like The Moody Blues?
David H. Lipman
>> Which explains...
Hell yes !
In search of the lost chord and Days of fute passed are poetic in so many ways. Pure art
!
What's in a Name?
I saw Moody Blues back in the day. Very talented. Did you know they met
while studying at Juilliard?
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David H. Lipman
>> | Just curious, did you also like The Moody Blues?
>> Hell yes !
>> In search of the lost chord and Days of fute passed are poetic in so
>> many ways. Pure art
>> !
| I saw Moody Blues back in the day. Very talented. Did you know they met
| while studying at Juilliard?
Nope.
BoaterDave
> I'm nodding can you see me <g>
>
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How are you?
Do you miss the Microsoft and Aumha groups?
David B.