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Jeff

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Aug 26, 2001, 10:44:28 PM8/26/01
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Greetings,

I am using publisher to make a web page.
The page in question is www.wwnet.net/~pcformat/page5.html
I have the form the way I want it [email the data to an address]
When I upload and test the page I get directed to a URL of
www.wwnet.net/~pcformat/--WEBBOT-SELF--
And then I get a "404 page not found" error because I don't know what
to put where.

I didn't find anything when ii tried to look up --WEBBOT-SELF- error
in F1 help.

Tutorials, answers or ANY enlightenment is appreciated.

Thanks

RSD99

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Aug 26, 2001, 10:58:14 PM8/26/01
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http://www.wwnet.net/~pcformat/--WEBBOT-SELF

seems to work ok from "here."

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Jeff

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Aug 27, 2001, 12:19:57 AM8/27/01
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are you saying that page
www.wwnet.net/~pcformat/page5.html
allows you to submit the form?

if so i'd appriciate you just submitting some bogu data.


On Mon, 27 Aug 2001 02:58:14 GMT, "RSD99" <rsdwla...@gte.net>
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David Bartosik - MVP

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Aug 27, 2001, 8:14:57 AM8/27/01
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Jeff,
this functionality won't work unless your web host installs FrontPage
extensions AND you upload via http not ftp.this article covers what you need
to know:

Q242431 - PUB2000: Troubleshooting Form Controls from Publisher

----------------------------------------------------------------------------
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The information in this article applies to:

Microsoft Publisher 2000

----------------------------------------------------------------------------
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SUMMARY
Microsoft Publisher 2000 has the ability to create Web Forms that can be
used to input data such as names and address, and even sell goods. These
form controls only work on servers that meet certain requirements.

Publisher 2000 can use any of the following options to retrieve data:

Save the data in a file on my Web Server

This option requires your Internet service provider (ISP) to support
Microsoft FrontPage Server Extensions version 2.0 or later.


Send data to me in e-mail

This option requires your ISP to support Microsoft FrontPage Server
Extensions version 3.0 or later.


Use a program from my ISP

This option configures your form to call to identifiers in CGI Script that
your ISP has on the server. This option is not one that Publisher 2000
supports directly. You can use this option if your ISP supports a standard
script.

MORE INFORMATION

Using Frontpage Server Extensions
Identify if the Server Supports FrontPage Extensions or Services
To determine if your Web server supports Frontpage Server Extensions:


Click Start, and then click Run.


In the Open box, type the following line
http://server name/path/_vti_inf.html
where server name is the name of the Web server and path is the folder on
the Web server in which your Web pages are stored.


Click OK.


If the Web server supports FrontPage Server Extensions, you see the
following Web page:
FrontPage Configuration Information

In the HTML comments, this page contains configuration information that the
FrontPage Explorer and FrontPage Editor need to communicate with the
FrontPage server extensions installed on this web server. Do not delete this
page.
If you do not see this message, your Web server does not support FrontPage
Server Extensions.


Determine the Version of FrontPage Server Extensions Supported
To determine the version of FrontPage Server Extensions supported by the Web
server:


While the configuration information page is still open in your browser,
click Source on the View menu.


Scan the text for the following entry
<!-- FrontPage Configuration Information
FPVersion="version"
where version is a multidigit number, with the first digit being the version
of FrontPage extensions supported by the server.


Compare the number found in step 2 to the following list to determine the
version of FrontPage Server Extensions that is supported by the server.

Version number Corresponding FrontPage version
2 FrontPage 97
3 FrontPage 98
4 FrontPage 2000

Posting a Web Site with a Form Using the Web Publishing Wizard
NOTE: These steps assume that you have already saved your Web site to a
folder on your hard disk.


Click Start, point to Programs, point to Internet Explorer, and then click
Web Publishing Wizard.


Web Publishing Wizard (WPW) prompts you for the folder you want to publish
to the Web. Since most Web sites use multiple files, the WPW prefers to
publish folders.

Click Browse folders, and select the folder you want to publish. Click OK,
and then click Next.


Type a friendly name for your Web server when you are prompted to. If you
run the WPW again, you can refer to this friendly name again to avoid the
initial prompts.

You can choose what type of file transfer method your ISP uses. If you don't
know, you can choose Automatically Select Service Provider. This option is
available by clicking the Advanced button.

If you choose Automatically Select Service Provider, the WPW downloads the
home page for your provider and checks the source HTML code for the
following tag:
<META name="postinfo" content=[PostInfo URL]>
The WPW then downloads the PostInfo.html file from the specified URL. This
file tells the WPW what method to use and what destination folder to use.

If the Wizard can't find any PostInfo information, it assumes you are using
FTP. It then prompts you for your user name and your password (for the ISP,
not for your local area network).

NOTE: For forms controls to work correctly, you should manually select
FrontPage Extended Web instead of having WPW automatically detect the
services on the server.


If necessary, type the URL (Universal Resource Locator) address and the
local directory in which the files being transferred are located. This
information should already be present.

When you click Next, the WPW validates the information you provided and
either allows the transfer, asks you for a user name and password for secure
sites, or you receive the following message:
A connection with the server could not be established.
If you receive this error message, then the URL is invalid. You must contact
your ISP to obtain the correct URL.


Once the URL has been verified and the connection made, the WPW may prompt
you for a user name and a password if the server is a protected server.
Otherwise WPW transfers the files to your Web site.


and if you are using version 2000 I suggest visiting my Publisher articles
for more tips and help.

--
David Bartosik - MS MVP
Publisher Help http://davidbartosik.com/pub2k.htm


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Jeff

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Aug 27, 2001, 12:24:38 PM8/27/01
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Thank you very much for the answer.
I don't LIKE the answer because it is saying I can't do what I want
unless my ISP lets me and they are goof balls.
That's my problem :-)

Thanks again

On Mon, 27 Aug 2001 07:14:57 -0500, "David Bartosik - MVP"
<dbar...@mvps.org> wrote:

>Jeff,
>this functionality won't work unless your web host installs FrontPage
>extensions AND you upload via http not ftp.this article covers what you need
>to know:
>
>Q242431 - PUB2000: Troubleshooting Form Controls from Publisher
>
>----------------------------------------------------------------------------
>----
>The information in this article applies to:
>
>Microsoft Publisher 2000
>
>----------------------------------------------------------------------------
>----
>
>
>SUMMARY
>Microsoft Publisher 2000 has the ability to create Web Forms that can be
>used to input data such as names and address, and even sell goods. These
>form controls only work on servers that meet certain requirements.
>
>Publisher 2000 can use any of the following options to retrieve data:
>

> ........... snip.............

David Rennie

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Aug 27, 2001, 12:27:44 PM8/27/01
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On Sun, 26 Aug 2001 22:44:28 -0400, Jeff wrote
(in message <3b89b40a...@news.wwnet.net>):

Me-Myself and I would need to see your code to try to determine what's wrong.
Don't feel obligated, but also don't worry about me stealing it. If you want
to, send it as a text file to Grave...@canada.com. I'll see what I can do,
but no promises.

David Bartosik - MVP

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Aug 27, 2001, 1:34:53 PM8/27/01
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>> unless my ISP lets me and they are goof balls.

Been there done that. I'm against mixing ISP and Web Host services.
I use www.hostway.com as my web host and can recommend them.
I have cable broadband for my internet provider and am very happy with that
as well.

--
David Bartosik - MS MVP

Tips: http://davidbartosik.com/tips.htm

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Jeff

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Aug 30, 2001, 12:01:57 PM8/30/01
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Thanks
but I must have other problems as well.

I moved the page to geocities
www.geocities.com/pc4mat/page5.html
because their help section stated that they support Frontpage 2000
extensions
http://help.yahoo.com/help/us/geo/frontpage/frontpage-05.html

I still get the -WEBBOT- error so I'm not fixed yet.

I still don't know what the problem is.

thanks for any help.
------------------------


On Mon, 27 Aug 2001 07:14:57 -0500, "David Bartosik - MVP"
<dbar...@mvps.org> wrote:

David Bartosik - MVP

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Aug 30, 2001, 9:23:40 PM8/30/01
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did you verify the existence of the extensions as explained in my previous
post?
typically they only install the extensions when asked to, not by default.

--
David Bartosik - MS MVP
Publisher Help http://davidbartosik.com/pub2k.htm


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Jeff

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Aug 31, 2001, 12:08:28 AM8/31/01
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Mr. David,

no, not as such, because i'm too new to this stuff to fully understand
what you wrote :-)

the part you wrote saying:


"Identify if the Server Supports FrontPage Extensions or Services
To determine if your Web server supports Frontpage Server Extensions:
Click Start, and then click Run.
In the Open box, type the following line
http://server name/path/_vti_inf.html
where server name is the name of the Web server and path is the folder
on the Web server in which your Web pages are stored.
Click OK."


I didn't get it.
I dont' know where geocities keeps their "_vti_inf.html" file
The page i am having trouble with is at
http://www.geocities.com/pc4mat/page5.html

If i click start/ run / then type in
"http://www.geocities.com/pc4mat/_vti_inf.html"
i get a page not found error so i guess you are saying that Server c
isn't there.

i did find in geocities help section where it stated that they support
Frontpage 2000 extensions. it is at
http://help.yahoo.com/help/us/geo/frontpage/frontpage-05.html
i suppost that geocities COULD be lieing. but i don't see why they
would. lieing would tend just piss users off when things won't work
then noone would use them any more.

i may mail geocities help and ask if Server Extensions are installed
by default.

I don't know what is going on......

i dunno nothing
and I'M REAL GOOD AT IT :-)

still looking for answers
Jeff

On Thu, 30 Aug 2001 20:23:40 -0500, "David Bartosik - MVP"
<dbar...@mvps.org> wrote:

>did you verify the existence of the extensions as explained in my previous
>post?
>typically they only install the extensions when asked to, not by default.
>
>--
>David Bartosik - MS MVP
>Publisher Help http://davidbartosik.com/pub2k.htm

>>..................snip..................

Bob Buckland ?:-)

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Sep 1, 2001, 6:12:03 PM9/1/01
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Hi David,

FWIW, Geocities is a MS partner for supporting
saving MS Office 2000 & XP web pages directly
from Office apps. The FrontPage Server Extensions
are one of the 'features' they offer for their
web pages for supporting 'Web Folder' saves :)
This is an info page.

http://help.yahoo.com/help/us/geo/frontpage/frontpage-01.html

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<<"David Bartosik - MVP" <dbar...@mvps.org> wrote in message news:#PpJBtbMBHA.1296@tkmsftngp03...


did you verify the existence of the extensions as explained in my previous
post?
typically they only install the extensions when asked to, not by default.

--
David Bartosik>>
--
Hope that helps you,

Bob Buckland ?:-) MS Office Products MVP
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Bob Buckland ?:-)

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Sep 1, 2001, 6:25:45 PM9/1/01
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Hi Jeff,

I'm a bit confused :) That page said you
created it using Yahoo/Geocities software
"<meta name="generator" content="Created Using Yahoo! PageBuilder 2.60.18">" rather than with Publisher.

I did get an error for that page but it lists
a character that doesn't exist on the line in question :)
I'm guessing it's something to do with their popup
ads, as instead of getting the small 'ad box' in the
upper right corner it's firing up a 2nd browser window
at 800x600, but when I clicked 'Submit' on the
form it came back with:

================
www.geocities.com Email Sent
The following message has been sent.
---------------------------------------
Reply-to: No Return Email (Geocities WebMonitor mail)
From: No Return Email (Geocities WebMonitor mail)
To: pc4mat
Subject: FORM results

(attention) i wish to contact person BBB
(respond via) no responce needed
(Name) Test Message
(Phone) 000-123-4567
(email) Not Applicable
(concern) This is test text
(FormButton2) Submit

I didn't receive a WEBBOT-SELF error.
It may be something on your PC.

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Thanks
but I must have other problems as well.

I moved the page to geocities
www.geocities.com/pc4mat/page5.html
because their help section stated that they support Frontpage 2000
extensions
http://help.yahoo.com/help/us/geo/frontpage/frontpage-05.html

I still get the -WEBBOT- error so I'm not fixed yet.

I still don't know what the problem is.

thanks for any help.>>

David Bartosik - MVP

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Sep 1, 2001, 10:55:56 PM9/1/01
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Bob,
I just checked his url, I now get what you stated which is not what I got
when I first checked it, looks like he got it squared away.

--
David Bartosik - MS MVP

Tips: http://davidbartosik.com/tips.htm

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Jeff

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Sep 7, 2001, 10:27:47 PM9/7/01
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No not squared away quite yet.
I tried a BUNCH of different stuff. That is why the URL changed [i
should have left that page alone]

any way - on page www.geocities.com/pc4mat/page5.html
when i hit the submit button i still get a "Whoops! We can't find your
page! " error www.geocities.com/pc4mat/--WEBBOT-SELF--

and Publisher help pages aren't telling me why or how to fix it
i dunno

Bob Buckland ?:-)

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Sep 7, 2001, 11:44:57 PM9/7/01
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Hi Jeff,

David will probably spot the issue on
this one quickly :)

From a quick check it looks like it's trying to take
an action to end up on a named page and getting
lost. It appears
to be similar to the issue in this MS KB article
using 'onsubmit=' in the form action (Method 2)
http://support.microsoft.com/support/kb/articles/Q181/2/05.ASP
Do you get the emails?

Is any of the script content added by you or was
it all Publisher?

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No not squared away quite yet.
I tried a BUNCH of different stuff. That is why the URL changed [i
should have left that page alone]

any way - on page www.geocities.com/pc4mat/page5.html
when i hit the submit button i still get a "Whoops! We can't find your
page! " error www.geocities.com/pc4mat/--WEBBOT-SELF--

and Publisher help pages aren't telling me why or how to fix it
i dunno<<

--

Jeff

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Sep 8, 2001, 11:14:38 AM9/8/01
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I bookmarked the link and I will read it more in depth later tonight.
Thanks

I have tried about 8 or 9 different settings [basically throwing stuff
against the wall to see what sticks] a few e-mails have gotten through
but I don't recall getting them immediately. The email took about a
day to get there. I would always get the WEBBOT error when submitting
the page. So I didn't take very good note of what got through and what
didn't because I was concentrating on the -WEBBOT- error.

thanks 4 looking

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