Embedded fonts in powerpoint

[Gil Jawetz]

Greetings! I'm trying to set up some ppts to launch out of a director
program and have pack-and-go'd them and provided a powerpoint player,
but the fonts that I'm (supposedly) embedding don't show up when i run
the thing on another computer (they work fine on the computer that I
make 'em on). Any suggestions?

Thanks in advance,

Gil Jawetz
busk...@yahoo.com
http://www.erols.com/busker/

[Kathy Huntzinger]

Gil,

Trina had the definitive word on embedded fonts on the NG a while back.
I believe it is not on the PPT FAQ page at http://www.rdpslides.com.
Check that and if it doesn't answer your question, come back and let us
know.

Kathy

[Steve Rindsberg]

>I believe it is not on the PPT FAQ page at http://www.rdpslides.com.

Now, now, now ... it is NOW on the etcetcetc. <g>

[Trina Roberts]

What fonts are they?
Where'd you get the copies you have?
Are you sure they're embeddable?
Are you (or have you) changed platforms or versions with this
presentation?
When you saved the presentation on the source PC, did you get any
embedding errors?
What version of the Viewer are you using?

OK, so that's not really suggestions, is it? But the more nitty-gritty
detail, the better.

I'm starting to have the glimmer of a thought of a suggestion, but I'm
going to go test it and then come back and see if you've thought of
anything else.

--Trina

[Gil Jawetz]

Steve Rindsberg wrote:

> >I believe it is not on the PPT FAQ page at http://www.rdpslides.com.
>
> Now, now, now ... it is NOW on the etcetcetc. <g>

Yes, there is a nice piece on embedding fonts on the faq. I'm going
through it now and will let you know how it turns out.

Thanks,

Gil

http://www.erols.com/busker/

[Gil Jawetz]

We just realized that they're postscript fonts and are about to attempt to
convert them on the mac with fontographer. Thay are TheSans fonts.
Will keep you posted.

Gil

[Kathy Huntzinger]

niw, if ciyrse
(durned fingers!)

[Gil Jawetz]

Ak! We just made the postscript font a true type and embedded it in pack
and go and ran the sucker and... it came out in russian. What could that
mean?

[Trina Roberts]

My guess would be that something went awry in the TrueType conversion, but
that's only a guess, and a not very educated one. Or as if it somehow
encoded the wrong character set--but I don't really know how that would
happen. Did you do the conversion on Fontographer on a Mac? That could be
part of the problem.

I don't think you told us what OS you're using, which could also be helpful.

Just to separate the steps of the process here, can you check what the font
looks like after the conversion, just as a font file and in PowerPoint but
not yet embedded? And then, if that's fine, embed it in the presentation
and check that on a different computer without using Pack and Go?

I'll keep thinking about it... let us know what else you discover.

--Trina

[John O]

Just a thought here...

You're looking at "display resolution" in the end
with Ppt. This isn't going to the print house for
duping at 2450dpi, right? The detail of individual
fonts, especially the finer details, are
completely lost on an 800 x 600 screen.

Pick a real truetype font, one that is pretty
close to the one you want, and be done with it!

--

John O
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[Steve Rindsberg]

Understand, then, that you're treading on thin legal ice. The font license
may not permit either conversion or embedding.

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[Steve Rindsberg]

That could mean one of two things:

Either the original font was Russian, meaning it worked perfectly or (more
likely) that the font didn't embed or for some reason couldn't be installed
and PowerPoint's grabbed a substitute off your system. Do you happen to
have any Russian fonts installed? It might be getting the first thing on
the font list alphabetically.

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[Gil Jawetz]

John O wrote:

> Just a thought here...
>
> You're looking at "display resolution" in the end
> with Ppt. This isn't going to the print house for
> duping at 2450dpi, right? The detail of individual
> fonts, especially the finer details, are
> completely lost on an 800 x 600 screen.
>
> Pick a real truetype font, one that is pretty
> close to the one you want, and be done with it!

I definitely agree with that last statement but when dealing with many
many layers of client decision making (and within your own company)
these decisions are not your own. However, in the meantime the client
has decided to go with a common font insterad. Phew! Now I only have to
work out all the director kinks!

Gil

[Gil Jawetz]

Gotcha. This was meant to simply be a temporary fix, but we've gone the
morally sound route and just used a font that doesn't cause these problems.
So, call off the hounds!

[Steve Rindsberg]

I'm more of a cat person myself, Gil. No hounds, no yelling and screaming,
no accusations. I just like to toss that in when the subject comes up ...
some folks really don't know that fonts are proprietary. You obviously
didn't need me to tell you that, though. <g>

I go 'way now.

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