Looping just one animation on a slide

[Dianah]

Poweroint 2002

I want one item on my introductory slide that I'd like to just fade in and
out, subtley while people assemble. I don't want the next slide to show
until later when I click to tell it to do so. Is there a way to loop the
fade in and fade out sequence. I can't think of a way to do this. There's
gotta be a way without creating something like an animated gif.

I suppose I could just have it as its own show ... copy the slide and have
the second slide go back to the first. Is there a better way? Diana

[John Clements]

I am no expert on this, if you have the proper graphics program, is to
create an Animated GIF with fade in/ fade out .

I have used your approach of a intro-slide that fades in and out "subtley
while people assemble". Usually it envolves text, such a the title of the
Presentation. Two programs I have used to due this with, which are
relatively inexpensive, are Swish for creating flash files and Xara3D
(www.Xara.com).

[Troy @ TLC Creative]

If creating in, and showing with PPT XP-2003 you have the ability to
continue an animation until end of slide. Currently the limitation is that
you cannot combine animations in a pattern to 'loop' throughout a slide. But
the effect you are seeking can be accomplished with an emphasis animation
(experiment until you find one the you like, I would suggest flicker) and
click smooth beginning and smooth end and loop until end of slide.

If using 97-2000, go with the animated .gif

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[John Langhans [MSFT]]

Hello,

PowerPoint does not have the specific capability that you are looking for
through the user interface. Although in PowerPoint 2002 and PowerPoint 2003
you can, through the user interface, have each individual animation effect
loop continuously until end of slide you CANNOT combine/group a sequence of
animation effects and have that sequence loop continuously. Since Fade in
and Fade out are two separate effects this is not currently possible.

However (for the courageous), this is possible through the object model for
PowerPoint 2002 and 2003 (see sample code at end of message).

If you (or anyone else reading this message) think that PowerPoint should
provide (through the user interace and not require VBA or add-ins) a way
combining animation sequences so that, for example, timings can be applied
to a sequence instead of just individual effects, don't forget to send your
feedback to Microsoft at:

http://register.microsoft.com/mswish/suggestion.asp

As with all product suggestions, it's important that you not just state
your wish but also WHY it is important to you that your product suggestion
be implemented by Microsoft. Microsoft receives thousands of product
suggestions every day and we read each one but, in any given product
development cycle, there are only sufficient resources to address the ones
that are most important to our customers so take the extra time to state
your case as clearly and completely as possible.

IMPORTANT: Each submission should be a single suggestion (not a list of
suggestions)

John Langhans

Supportability Program Manager
Microsoft Office PowerPoint for Windows
Microsoft Office Picture Manager for Windows

This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.

Use of any included script samples are subject to the terms specified at
http://www.microsoft.com/info/cpyright.htm

=============================================
Sample code to add a looping Fade In and Out to the first shape on the
first slide:
============= Begin sample code ===============
Sub myLoopingFadeInOut()

Set currentShape = Application.ActivePresentation.Slides(1).Shapes(1)
Set effCustom =
Application.ActivePresentation.Slides(1).TimeLine.MainSequence.AddEffect(cur
rentShape, msoAnimEffectCustom, msoAnimateLevelNone,
msoAnimTriggerWithPrevious)

With effCustom

' Set Visible Behavior: from 0 to 0.001
.Behaviors(1).SetEffect.To = 1 ' visible

' Fade In Behavior: from 0.001 to 2.499
.Behaviors.Add(msoAnimTypeFilter).FilterEffect.Type =
msoAnimFilterEffectTypeFade
.Behaviors(2).FilterEffect.Reveal = msoTrue ' fade in
.Behaviors(2).Timing.TriggerDelayTime = "0.001"
.Behaviors(2).Timing.Duration = "2.499"

' Fade Out Behavior: from 2.5 to 4.999
.Behaviors.Add(msoAnimTypeFilter).FilterEffect.Type =
msoAnimFilterEffectTypeFade
.Behaviors(3).FilterEffect.Reveal = msoFalse ' fade out
.Behaviors(3).Timing.TriggerDelayTime = "2.5"
.Behaviors(3).Timing.Duration = "2.499"

' Set Hidden Behavior: from 4.999 to 5.0
.Behaviors.Add(msoAnimTypeSet).SetEffect.Property = msoAnimVisibility
.Behaviors(4).Timing.Duration = "0.001"
.Behaviors(4).Timing.TriggerDelayTime = "4.999"
.Behaviors(4).SetEffect.To = 0 ' hidden

' Set overall delay and repeat count for custom effect
.Timing.TriggerDelayTime = "0.5"
.Timing.RepeatCount = 9999

End With 'effCustom

End Sub
============= End Sample Code ===============

[Dianah]

Thanks John. That's a good idea. I'll put forth some suggestions because I
have a few right now that I'd really like to see implemented. The few I
asked about for 2003 aren't there (I was hoping).

I did my powerpoint presentation tonight and it went very well - lots of
oooo and awwwws. I gave it to a friend to critique and she said it was the
best ppt presentation she'd ever seen. I know I can do and even better job,
but time constraints can sometimes get in the way of course. I can
sometimes come close to making it look like Flash. A layer feature would
really help my efforts. It's so difficult to have many (animated) items on
the page and have to dig down (moving critically placed objects on the way -
that will have to be maticulously put back), to make critical change on a
object that is buried beneath others. Just being able to tab (or shift tab)
to find it, borders on being irritating. I built a 3-page cartoon-like
story and everyone liked it, but I spent sooooo much time on it because
there were so many objects with sounds, paths, and other behaviours, that it
took so much longer than it should.

And ... speaking of taking longer, I got a little carried away with my
response ... didn't mean to do that. Thanks for providing the post address
for suggestions to MS. Appreciated.
DianaH

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[Sonia]

There are some tricks for dealing with lots of layered objects and
animations. See the tutorial at
http://www.soniacoleman.com/Tutorials/PowerPoint/Selecting_Objects/index.html
and go directly to Slide 12 and then back to Slide 10.

To paraphrase the tip, as you add an object to your slide, that you will be
animating, while it is still selected go to Format > Autoshape and select
the Web tab. Assign a meaningful name to the object that you will recognize
later. Then customize your Drawing toolbar by going to View > Toolbars and
click on Customize. Under Categories, select "Drawing". Under Commands
locate "Select Multiple Objects". Click+hold+drag the icon down to your
Drawing toolbar.

Now when you need to select an object on your busy slide, click on the
"Select Multiple Objects" icon and you'll see a list of all objects on the
slide. Since you have assigned meaningful names to them, you can check the
box next to the one you want and proceed to tweak the animation settings,
etc. You no longer have to move things about to find them. They can all
stay in place while you refine the settings, even for objects that are on
the bottom layer and not visible.
--
Sonia, MS PowerPoint MVP Team
Autorun CD software, templates, and tutorials
http://www.soniacoleman.com/

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[John Langhans [MSFT]]

Hi Dianah,

Thank you for sending in your suggestions (one suggestion per submission)
using the Microsoft mswish web form.

[DianaH]

Thanks John,
I'll keep that in mind. It's always interesting to learn
how others approach some of these querks.

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>

[DianaH]

I know enough to post one item at a time ... I worked on a
helpdesk for about 5 years (supporting the office, along
with a gazillion other things) ... so I understand why
it's necessary to post only one issue at a time. The
consequence is often that none of the issues get looked at.

I'll take some time tonight to put my suggestions together
as I have a few and should do it while it's all fresh in
my mind.

Thanks for you help.
Diana

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>

[DianaH]

Sonia ... that sounds totally relevant and very
interesting. I'll check it out for sure cuz I gotta tell
you ... it's really frustrating to work with all those
images on a page, especially when working with the
animations. I will end up with such a long list of items
in the animation columns ... it's silly.

A year or so ago, someone suggested creating an extra
slide so that there were less objects on one slide, but
that seemed like it would just add another complicating
variable.

Thanks again. Diana

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[Echo S]

One thing to watch for when you use this trick is that the name of the
object in the animation pane won't match the name you've given it on the
web tab (in Format/Autoshape). If you've already applied an animation to
the selected object, though, the object will at least be highlighted in
the animation pane so you will know what you're working with there, too.

We're all hoping that in the next version of PPT the names of the
objects in those dialogs will match the names of the objects in the
animation pane. :-)

--
Echo [MS PPT MVP]
http://www.echosvoice.com

[Dianah]

Thanks sonia,
You're tip is a good one and I'll use it, but unfortunately, it won't work
for all my needs.
While creating ... I'll be adding, changing, recolouring, reshaping,
re-animating ... you know ... all of those wonderful things. I don't
suppose powerpoint allowed for us to actually visualize the buried item that
has taken these valuable lessons to finally select. I might be asking too
much ... I realize the software has its limitations. Diana

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[Dianah]

Echo,
You are right. It's useful for selecting, but it doesn't change the name as
listed in the animation pane. I don't suppose that's something that
Microsoft could add in a SP release !!!

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[Echo S]

heh, I wish. Somehow I suspect there's more to it than could be fixed
with just an SP, though...

Echo

Dianah wrote:
>
> Echo,
> You are right. It's useful for selecting, but it doesn't change the name as
> listed in the animation pane. I don't suppose that's something that
> Microsoft could add in a SP release !!!
>
> "Echo S" <ec...@indyUGHSPAM.net> wrote in message
> news:3FBAC288...@indyUGHSPAM.net...

> We're all hoping that in the next version of PPT the names of the

[Echo S]

I know this won't help a whole lot, but I'll toss it out anyway.

I often use the select multiple stuff in conjunction with the "order"
tools on the Drawing toolbar. By bringing an object to the front, making
my changes, and then moving it backward, I can at least avoid having to
re-place the object. Well, you know what I mean, I think.

Steve has a new tool which I think may help you a bit here. It's easier
to use than the select multiple.
http://www.rdpslides.com/pptools/FAQ00046.htm has info. It's the Layer
Manager on the Starter Set Plus.

You'll notice in the screenshot of the layer manager that there's a
"visible" option. You can use this to make a bunch of your stuff
invisible, which will make your selected object easier to work with, I
suspect...

See what you think of it. If I'm not mistaken, you can download a demo
of the Starter Set Plus, and Steve and Brian (authors of the PP Tools)
are always here in the newsgroup if you have more questions about it.

Echo

--

[Steve Rindsberg]

> Steve has a new tool which I think may help you a bit here. It's easier
> to use than the select multiple.
> http://www.rdpslides.com/pptools/FAQ00046.htm has info. It's the Layer
> Manager on the Starter Set Plus.
>
> You'll notice in the screenshot of the layer manager that there's a
> "visible" option. You can use this to make a bunch of your stuff
> invisible, which will make your selected object easier to work with, I
> suspect...
>
> See what you think of it. If I'm not mistaken, you can download a demo
> of the Starter Set Plus, and Steve and Brian (authors of the PP Tools)
> are always here in the newsgroup if you have more questions about it.

Starter Set is a free download, the Plus upgrade is $20 and adds some other
handy tools to the free Starter Set toolbars.
Alas, there's no demo for the Plus stuff.

[John Langhans [MSFT]]

Hello Diana,

PowerPoint only has a limited user interface to facilitate working with
objects hidden behind other objects.

If it's important to you (or anyone else reading this message) that
PowerPoint (or Microsoft Office Drawing tools in general) to provide more
assistance in working with object(s) that are hidden by other objects
(without having to resort to VBA or add-ins), don't forget to send your
feedback to Microsoft at:

http://register.microsoft.com/mswish/suggestion.asp

As with all product suggestions, it's important that you not just state

your wish but also why it is important to you that your product suggestion

be implemented by Microsoft. Microsoft receives thousands of product
suggestions every day and we read each one but, in any given product
development cycle, there are only sufficient resources to address the ones
that are most important to our customers so take the extra time to state
your case as clearly and completely as possible.

IMPORTANT: Each submission should be a single suggestion (not a list of

suggestions).

John Langhans
Microsoft Corporation

Supportability Program Manager
Microsoft Office PowerPoint for Windows
Microsoft Office Picture Manager for Windows

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