Auto vs Manual

[ydoumorph]

I created a slide show that has a lot of picture animation, and the show is setup to run using timings.  However, some slides have animation settings that are set to run on click, but when the show gets to the run 'on click' slides in the slide show it automatically shows them anyway, but I want the show to pause until I click.  Is this a defect in PowerPoint or is there a way to make it pause when the show gets to the 'run on click' slides?

I run on Win XP Pro, Office XP

Thanks for any help you can offer

[ydoumorph]

Sonia,  Is there no help for my situation?

"ydoumorph" <ydou...@email.msn.com> wrote in message news:OAwG743oCHA.2752@TK2MSFTNGP09...

[Sonia]

Why me? I would carefully review the settings for the animations.
Something is causing this. Have you used Trigger? Do you have a timing
set, as well as a play on click setting? Etc. Analyze the interdependency
of the animations.
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"ydoumorph" <ydou...@email.msn.com> wrote in message

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[ydoumorph]

Sonia, You were picked because you seem to be the one providing all the
answers here today.
Trigger? What's that? Never heard of it.
I do have timings set for all the pics in the slides, as well as play on
click setting for the pics within the appropriate slides. So far I've got
about 50 pics with animations withing about 20 slides
I looked over the settings and can find nothing amis.
Thanks

"Sonia" <sc...@nowherebuthere.com> wrote in message
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[Sonia]

It sounds like you haven't used triggers. However, you can learn about
them later from the Help File. What animation effects have you assigned to
these objects that misbehave? Have you viewed these slides before, in the
navigation sequence, and you are returning to them?

"ydoumorph" <ydou...@email.msn.com> wrote in message

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[Tushar Mehta]

Setting slide transition on timings and setting some object to be shown
'on click' causes an inherent and irreconcilable conflict.

See http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=MPG.17bb2c92fc38958298a73f%
40msnews.microsoft.com for more.

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In <OAwG743oCHA.2752@TK2MSFTNGP09>, ydoumorph <ydou...@email.msn.com>
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[ydoumorph]

It's a picture with a 'Fade In' 'On Click' with a 5.5 second delay (the
operator prompted by music). Regarding navigation, all the slides are
sequential with no repeats or jumping back or forward, and there's no
looping if that's what you're asking.

"Sonia" <sc...@nowherebuthere.com> wrote in message

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[ydoumorph]

I looked for 'triggers' in help and on your site, but couldn't find
anything. I have the whole Office XP Pro CD loaded on the hard drive too.
Got any suggestions?

"Sonia" <sc...@nowherebuthere.com> wrote in message

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[ydoumorph]

Are you saying then that you cannot use the two, auto transition and 'on
click', together in a slide show? Or are you saying that instead of setting
the object, in this case a picture, to transition 'on click' I should be
setting the slide itself to transition on click? If slide, how is that
accomplished?
Thanks

"Tushar Mehta" <ng_p...@bigfoot.com> wrote in message
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[Sonia]

Do a search for animations and you'll find it somewhere in the list of
related topics.

"ydoumorph" <ydou...@email.msn.com> wrote in message

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[Sonia]

I think that Tushar has probably identified your problem. I think what he
is saying is to increase the slide transition time and see if that gives
everything enough time to behave as you wish.

"ydoumorph" <ydou...@email.msn.com> wrote in message

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[Tushar Mehta]

What I am getting at is that the two are contradictory instructions.
One says, "move to the next slide after x seconds," the other says
"wait for a click before you finish displaying this slide."

It's unfortunate that MS changed without warning in 2002 how it
resolved this conflict. That, however, doesnt' change the fact that
the underlying conflict is not new. What might be better is for MS to
*disallow* these conflicting instructions in the first place.

You have to decide what you want to do. For a self-presented show, it
would make more sense to using timings. For a person-presented show,
it would make more sense to wait for clicks.

To set a slide to move on a click, use the same dialog box as when
setting the time for transition.

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Tushar Mehta
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In <#mGOJAUpCHA.1888@TK2MSFTNGP09>, ydoumorph <ydou...@email.msn.com>
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[business.org]

In article <MPG.18691d6ff...@msnews.microsoft.com>, Tushar Mehta <ng_p...@bigfoot.com> wrote:

>
>It's unfortunate that MS changed without warning in 2002 how it
>resolved this conflict. That, however, doesnt' change the fact that
>the underlying conflict is not new. What might be better is for MS to
>*disallow* these conflicting instructions in the first place.
>

I'd like to respectfully disagree with the idea of disallowing this ( having
both timings and clicks for slide transitions and etc.) Sometimes you want
the slide to appear for no longer than a certain time but want to have the
option to move it along faster if the full time is not necessary. Then you
need both methods -- the click being the method of moving it along. I have
used this numerous times in things I've done.

Maybe there need to be three options -- all mutually exclusive:

click only
timing only
timing and click (with timing overriding unless there is a click)

Just my experience and two cents --

BJ

[Tushar Mehta]

Yeah, given how ingenious people are, I'm sure there will be reasons to
support all three options.

Of course, given how much influence I have over PPT design features,
there should be no worry about MS actually acting on my suggestion. <g>

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Tushar Mehta
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Microsoft MVP -- Excel
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In <Fg-dnfLk8ov...@comcast.com>, bj@notyour <bj@notyour> wrote

[ydoumorph]

Is it possible to have the slide show partly automated and partly manual
then?
I've been working on this Christmas Cantata wherein a portion of the
slideshow will be timed to music. For that part I have several slides with
picture sequences embedded and animated in each slide. After the several
songs have completed I need to have the slideshow pause and await for the
manual 'on click' resumption of the show (There will be breaks where there
will be someone doing storytelling with no slides involved, after which the
slideshow must be resumed. That is where I need to have the proceed 'on
click' slides). However, I have found no way to pause the automated show to
wait for the click. I hope that gives a clearer picture of what I am
attempting. Perhaps I'll miss the production window though. Any further
help will be appreciated.
Thanks

"Tushar Mehta" <ng_p...@bigfoot.com> wrote in message

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[Echo S]

You might try a "shim" slide following the "real" slide. The shim slide
has the same content as the real slide does, but the content is modified
to look exactly like the previous slide in the state immediately before
you want the last effects.

Set the "real" slide to automatic (animation and transition) and the
"shim" slide to manual (animation and transition).

That's the only way around it I'm aware of.

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"ydoumorph" <ydou...@email.msn.com> wrote in message

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> Is it possible to have the slide show partly automated and partly manual
> then?

Yes. On a per slide basis, you can set the Slide Transition. Go to the Slide
Transition task pane with one slide selected, and uncheck the Advance Slide
Automatically After... checkbox. Do not hit the "Apply to All Slides"
button. The presentation will not automatically advance through the slide
(or slides if you want to apply this to multiple slides) you have selected.

If you want to stop in the middle of a slide, then the way you do that is to
use the workaround and create a "shim" slide in the way that Echo suggested:
1) Duplicate the slide you want to stop in the middle of.
2) Delete all custom animation effects and content that you don't want to
show on the first part of the slide.
3) Set the slide transition to No Transition. This will make the transition
to your "paused" slide unnoticeable.
4) Delete all the custom entrance effects, etc. that you don't want to
repeat on the second slide so that the transition works the way you want it
(using the "Start Slide show from current slide" command which is the third
button from the left under the thumbnail view is very handy here).
5) Set the paused slide to not automatically advance.
6) Be VERY careful from this point on to not change your transition effects
over the pair of slides.

> I've been working on this Christmas Cantata wherein a portion of the
> slideshow will be timed to music. For that part I have several slides
with
> picture sequences embedded and animated in each slide. After the several
> songs have completed I need to have the slideshow pause and await for the
> manual 'on click' resumption of the show (There will be breaks where there
> will be someone doing storytelling with no slides involved, after which
the
> slideshow must be resumed. That is where I need to have the proceed 'on
> click' slides). However, I have found no way to pause the automated show
to
> wait for the click. I hope that gives a clearer picture of what I am
> attempting. Perhaps I'll miss the production window though. Any further
> help will be appreciated.

This description was rather helpful in ascertaining what you wanted to do.
Good luck.
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