Office XP small business
Echo S
http://www.rdpslides.com/pptfaq/FAQ00280.htm
Note where it says
If you have Office Small Business Edition [SBE] (XP) then you cannot use the
PPT Upgrade and there's no other suite to upgrade to. Office XP SBE is not
an upgrade qualifier for the Standard edition.
You might check with the computer mfg to see what they'd charge you to get
the Pro or Standard edition instead or just to add PPT to the SBE.
You could also purchase a used legal copy of PPT 2000 and simply purchase
the PPT 2002 upgrade to upgrade it.
Otherwise you're stuck with purchasing the full version of PPT 2002.
Holler back if you have any questions.
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"Travis" <tlo...@aol.com> wrote in message
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> Can anyone tell me if Powerpoint 2002 is included in the
> Office XP small business editions that many computer
> makers are bundling? If not, is there a way to purchase
> ppt without having to buy an upgrade to the standard
> edition? Thanks,
> Travis
Michael Koerner
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hellsbells
You cannot laterally upgrade PPT 2002 into OfficeXP SBE, but you *can*
use the upgrade if you have Office SBE 2000 or 97--neither of which
had PTT to start with!
WTF? Why call it an 'upgrade'? And if it works with the older
versions, why not OfficeXP?
I bought PPT 2002 Upgrade because I told the guy at Fry's that I
already had OfficeXP SBE. After glancing at the box, he said it would
be fine. When I got home and tried installing it, it gave the 1608
error. I looked at the side of the box, and I don't blame the guy
from Fry's for getting it wrong. You scan quickly down the list of
qualifying products and see SBE--and stop reading. That's where you
miss the mention that it's only for 97 or 2000.
Now someone could blame me for not reading the fine print more closely
(or for listening to a Fry's sales person), but it's the MS upgrade
logic that really pisses me off. Here's how I understand it:
If I order OfficeXP SBE as an OEM item from Dell, and then decide
three weeks later that I also need PPT, I find that I could have just
ordered OfficeXP Pro (which includes PPT) as OEM for an extra $100.
But now, I have to pay $300+ for the full version of it. Basicaly,
Microsoft is saying "You should have ordered it OEM when you had the
chance, because now we're going to screw you out of $200 difference."
Microsoft needs to do the right thing and...
1) Sell an add-on version of PPT to OfficeXP SBE for about $100.
Even $120 or maybe $150 would be acceptable, since I didn't buy it
when it was offered as part of a bundle. But $300+?!
2) Describe their byzantinian upgrade scheme in a clear, specific
manner on the side of the box, and on their site. I have read other
posts that complain of errors and lack of consistancy on the MS
website when describing their scheme. Also, stop calling it an
'upgrade' if it will install with older versions of SBE, which never
had PPT to begin with. Under these situations the name is incorrect
and misleading.
Now I am out $110 for an upgrade that won't work, (Fry's won't return
opened software) and am still facing a $300 pricetag for PPT. I am
really pissed. Does anyone know offhand of an email address at
Microsoft I could send a blistering message to? Preferably Bill
Gates'?
Michael Koerner
following
Office Premium (97, 2000)
Office Professional (97, 2000)
Office Standard (97, 2000)
Office Developer (97, 2000)
PowerPoint (97, 2000)
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"hellsbells" <geoff...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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Echo S
right and that MS needs to make this information much more clear. Email
msw...@microsoft.com and tell them.
I'd also throw a fit at Fry's until they took the software back. The sales
guy got it wrong.
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"hellsbells" <geoff...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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hellsbells
> From what I read, You cannot upgrade standalone ppt XP from any version of SBE. you need the
> following
> Office Premium (97, 2000)
> Office Professional (97, 2000)
> Office Standard (97, 2000)
> Office Developer (97, 2000)
> PowerPoint (97, 2000)
Just to clarify what you're saying, I think you mean that you cannot
install standalone PPT from the upgrade disk using SBE as a qualifying
product. (Not to be nit-picky, but these terms are often used
loosely, and I want to be crystal clear here.)
You would think so, but I obtained a copy of Office 2000 SBE, put Disk
1 in my other drive, and PPT 2002 Upgrade accepted it as a qualifying
product. My PC is brand new and never even tasted PPT until this
upgrade. Now I have full-blown PPT 2002, and it works fine.
I think you can add to the above list
Office Small Business Edition (97, 2000)
Office XP SBE is the one that won't work.
Also, this would be consistant with what's on the fine print on the
side of the box. It does include SBE (97 & 2000) in the list of
qualifying products. If it weren't mentioned there, I wouldn't have
gone through all this in the first place.
Michael Koerner
of Office SBE. The fact that you were able to do so from the 2000 SBE, should make you a happy
camper, and Steve needs to update his FAQ page.
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"hellsbells" <geoff...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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hellsbells
> From what I have read you are not supposed to be able to Upgrade to PowerPoint XP from any version
> of Office SBE. The fact that you were able to do so from the 2000 SBE, should make you a happy
> camper, and Steve needs to update his FAQ page.
>
Yeah, well, I'd be a more happy camper if MS would allow lateral
upgrades and Office XP SBE would qualify.
But anyway, upward and onward...
Echo S
my fault if it's anyone's. But I can say that Office SBE 97 and 2000 are
definitely not listed on the MS page for upgrade qualifiers.
http://microsoft.com/office/howtobuy/upgrading.asp
FWIW, we've been growling at MS to get this confusing information fixed so
it's straightforward, but no luck yet.
Thanks for the additional information on this, hellsbells.
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