can't change chinese fonts....

[kmv...@yahoo.com]

Hi all,

I got this weird problem with powerpoint. I first
installed some chinese fonts by unzipping them directly
into the fonts directory (c:\winnt\fonts), and I found
that from Word, I can't see the name of the new fonts
from the drop down box. But I can see the correct font
name when I used the menu Format->Font. It's annoying,
but I can use the new fonts.

But in PowerPoint, I can't see the font name from the
drop down box, and I can't change the font of my text,
even if I use the menu Format->Font.

I unsinstalled the fonts, re-installed them normally,
but still the same problem. I unsinstalled the fonts,
uninstalled Office 2000, re-installed everything again,
the problem still persists.

On other machines, with almost exactly the same hardware
and software configuration, I installed the fonts properly
the first time, and everything just works fine.
Somehow, unzipping the fonts directly into the font directory
screwed up something, which persisted in the system.

Can anyone give a hint what the heck is going on?

Thanks

xx

[Jeff Chapman]

What version of OS are you using? A Chinese OS, hopefully... :D
When you look at the font list in the PPT drop-down menu, do
you see just a row of empty squares? Perhaps these are the fonts
you are looking for... If your version of Windows isn't set up
to support two-byte characters, you'll have trouble displaying
Oriental fonts here and there.

Are you able to use these Chinese fonts you installed from
other applications?

- Jeff Chapman

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[Steve Rindsberg]

Office 97 included some extra software in the \Valupack folder on the CD
that added Chinese, Korean or Japanese language support. This allowed
PowerPoint to display but not enter characters in whichever language you
installed support for. Perhaps it's the same in PPT 2000 - display only?

But it's worth trying this (it may not work identically in XP ... not sure)

Locate a file called TTFCACHE (no extension, it's hidden so you won't find
it unless you tell Win Exporer to show hidden and system files).

Once you've found it, remove the system and hidden attributes.

Reboot into DOS and delete the file.

Restart Windows. It will re-create TTFCACHE for you.

--
Steve Rindsberg PPT MVP
PPT FAQ: http://www.pptfaq.com
PPTools: http://www.pptools.com

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[kmv...@yahoo.com]

Sorry, should have been more specific. I'm using Windows2000,
english version. I have a chinese input application from
NJStar, and the chinese fonts from FangZheng. I also have
installed the IME that came with W2K so I can view chinese
file names.

Actually, with these combinations, I can do whatever I want
(almost, except right to left and up to down). The problem is
that, the first time on this machine specifically, I unzip the
chinese TTF fonts directly into the font directory. On other
machines with the same software combinations, I installed
the fonts properly, and I have no problem. PPT is working
just fine, just like any other application, and no problem
in changing or displaying the chinese fonts.

But on this machine, I can use the fonts with Word and Excel.
The only problem is that the drop down box shows squares and
some funny characters instead of the font names. Going to
menu Format->Font, then I can see the font name the way
it should be. But I can't do anything with PPT.

thanks

xx

[kmv...@yahoo.com]

Hi Steve,

I'm running W2K, english version. I have a chinese input app from
NJStar, chinese fonts from FangZheng and also IME that came with
W2K.

Anyways, on other machines with the same software combinations.
Actually, it even works on my Linux laptop running Codeweaver's
Crossover Office (WINE) and the same Office2000, and I can
even use the fonts with PPT.

So I don't think the fonts and the softwares are the problem.
Somehow I first time I installed the fonts on that machine
by unzipping into the font directory, W2K didn't like that.

I can't find the file ttfcache (I made sure that my folder view
options do not hide OS files and any extensions).
Maybe not the same on W2K?

I looked for any clue all over the place, including the
registry. Can't find anything abnormal.

thanks

xx

[Steve Rindsberg]

> I can't find the file ttfcache (I made sure that my folder view
> options do not hide OS files and any extensions).
> Maybe not the same on W2K?

I had a chance to check on a Win2K system ... you're correct. Apparently it
doesn't use TTFCACHE

I'm not sure what to suggest, except that if you haven't removed the fonts
then rebooted, I'd definitely do that, then try to reinstall them normally.

[xx]

I've removed the fonts, uninstalled office2k, rebooted, cleaned
up whatever is left behind in the registry, in the original office
installation directory, rebooted again, then re-installed
again (twice, once the fonts first, another time the office2k
first). But that does not change anything. I still get the
same stupid problem :(

I guess I'm stuck with that, unless formatting my HD eh?

[Steve Rindsberg]

You might want to try a little registry diving before reformatting.
Do a search on .ttf or the name of a known-installed font's ttf file to see
if you can locate the section of the reg where the fonts are stored.

Export that section to a text file, do the same with one of the systems
where it all works, then see if you can see any differences between the two.

Might or might not work, but if it does, it saves wear and tear on the
FORMAT command.

--
Steve Rindsberg PPT MVP
PPT FAQ: http://www.pptfaq.com
PPTools: http://www.pptools.com

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[kmv...@yahoo.com]

Just done with w2k upgrade, and it solved all the
pain.... had been spending too much time on this
issue :(

thanks

xx

[Jeff Chapman]

A lobotomy does wonders sometimes... :o

- JC

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