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Can you place MOV files in PPT 2K presentations?

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Mark

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Jul 26, 2000, 3:00:00 AM7/26/00
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Can you place/add MOV files in a PowerPoint 2000 presentation?

Austin Myers

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Mark,

Yes to QuickTime versions 1 and 2, no to versions 3 and 4.

Austin Myers
PowerPoint MVP Team

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Jul 28, 2000, 3:00:00 AM7/28/00
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hi,
You can place a .mov file in a Powerpoint presentation.

Please follow the steps given below to add a .mov file
to a presentation.
1. Click on "Insert -> Movies and Sounds -> Movie from
file".
2. Select the the .mov file you want to add and click on
"OK".

courtesy(www.qsupport.com)

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Mark

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I've tried that but I get the following error:

MMSYSTEM277 A problem occured initializing MCI. Try restarting Windows.

I looked at MS Knowledge Base and found article Q232547
http://support.microsoft.com/support/kb/articles/Q232/5/47.ASP?LN=EN-US&SD=g
n&FR=0

In short it tells me to upgrade to the most current version of Windows Media
Player.

I did and it didn't help. I still get the same error. Anyone got anything
else I might try?

Mark

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Austin Myers

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Mark,

See my earlier reply.

Austin Myers
PowerPoint MVP Team

> I've tried that but I get the following error:

Mark

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Jul 28, 2000, 3:00:00 AM7/28/00
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Yes I saw it... "Yes to QuickTime versions 1 and 2, no to versions 3 and 4."
And like most answer you get from the news groups it wasn't any help.

Let me see if I can illustrate where your answer fell short.

I'm guessing here as you didn't specifically say, but I believe that you are
talking about versions of the MOV and not the QuickTime player. I can place
a version 1 & 2 QuickTime MOV files in a PPT 2000 presentation but not a
QuickTime MOV if the version is 3 or 4. Again I'm have to make another
guess based off of my first guess, so if my first assumption was wrong I'm
really going down the wrong path... I'm getting this error message because
I'm trying to insert a version 3 or 4 MOV files. If my first guess was
correct then I have to ask the question, how do you determine what version
of MOV files do I have. Selecting properties does provide any version
information. So then I start to question my first assumption. So I looked
up what I could in Microsoft's Knowledge Base and found something that talks
directly to the error message I got. Their article take as if I just needed
the latest Windows Media Player... Hmmm... There is two Windows Medial
Players on my system MPLAYER.EXE ver: 4.10.1998 and WMPLAYER ver:
7.00.00.1954 Which one do I upgrade?? On Microsoft main page they talk
about their new Media Player so that's what I upgraded. I found that it's
WMPLAYER.EXE but that didn't make a difference. Maybe what needs to be
upgraded is MPLAYER.EXE?

WMPLAYER.EXE doesn't give the option to open a MOV file. MPLAYER.EXE does
give the option but I get the error. I don't know what to do next, so I
posted a follow-up question... of which I now get back the very helpful
reply... "See my earlier reply." Austin, maybe I'm stupid but your earlier
reply still doesn't help.

If PPT 2000 can open a MOV file if the file is version 1 or 2 but can't open
version 3 or 4 I'd think that PPT 2000 would give an error message like this
MOV file is version 3 and PPT 2000 can only open version 1 or 2.

Oh, well... I still can insert ANY MOV I have on my system into a PPT 2000
presentation. I've upgraded my WMPLAYER.EXE to ver: 7.00.00.1954 which
doesn't want to open a MOV files. I don't know where to get an upgrade or
even if there is one for MPLAYER.EXE which does attempt to load a MOV file
but gets the "MMSYSTEM277 A problem occurred initializing MCI. Try
restarting Windows." error.

And the answer I got twice is: "Yes to QuickTime versions 1 and 2, no to
versions 3 and 4."

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Austin Myers

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Mark,

OK, I can see I need to go into it a little deeper. "Mplayer.exe" is a
component of Windows. (Don't confuse it with Media Player ver 6.x or 7.x.)
It is part of the MCI (Multimedia Control Interface) and has been a part of
Windows since Windows 3.x

As far as PowerPoint is concerned, Windows Media Player (6 or 7) has nothing
to do with it. (There is an exception.)

PowerPoint calls the MCI (mplayer.exe) to handle ALL multimedia. With me so
far?

With the release of QuickTime 3, Apple no longer used, or supported the
Windows MCI. This also carried forward with QuickTime 4. At the same time
MS decided to drop support of the QuickTime video format. Competition and
all that.

So, bottom line, if the video was created with QT 1 or 2, the MCI
(mplayer.exe) will play it. If it was created with QT 3 or 4, it's a no go.
(Regardless of which version of Media Player you have installed.)

Now, how to test your file for compatibility? Click Start and Run, enter
"mplayer.exe" and click OK. This will start the MCI version of Media Player
(Again don't confuse it with Media Player 6 or 7.) Using normal File-Open,
open your *.mov file. If it plays correctly, it is version 1 or 2. If it
doesn't it is version 3 or 4, and PPT will NOT play it.

Hope this helps.

Oh yeah, the exception. The Apple QuickTime Player (As well as Media
Player) can be inserted as an "Object" and the file can be played. Or you
could also create a hyperlink to the file and if your associations are set
up correctly the file will play.

The downside of this is several fold. First, installation of the QuickTime
Player is absolutely, positively going to hose other multimedia settings in
the registry. Also, the player is called and played, and PPT has no control
over it at all. It's ran as a stand alone application and will continue to
play until it reaches the end of the video or you shut it down.

My best advice is to convert the file to AVI or MPEG.

Mark

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Austin,

First, let me apologize if my last post seemed harsh... The frustration
brought out the worst in me.

Second, let me thank you for a very well worded and comprehensive
explanation. Now I understand.

I have two follow-up questions.

1. Is there a way of determining which version a MOV files is?
2. Is there any software that will convert a MOV version 3 or 4 to a version
2 so that it will play nicely in PPT 2000.

I converted the MOV file I've been working with to a AVI file via Quick Time
PRO 4.0. The PPT presentation is going on a CD so size isn't that much of
any issue but the file size jumped from 2 MB (MOV) to 22 MB (AVI). I then
explored the conversion options from an AVI to MOV ver 2 but there didn't
seem to be such an option.

Thanks again Austin,
Mark

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Austin Myers

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Mark,


> Second, let me thank you for a very well worded and comprehensive
> explanation. Now I understand.
>
> I have two follow-up questions.
>
> 1. Is there a way of determining which version a MOV files is?

Sometimes.... If you right click the file name and look at properties, it
*should* use either the Cinepak codec for versions 1 & 2, or the Sorenson
codec for versions 3 & 4.

> 2. Is there any software that will convert a MOV version 3 or 4 to a
version
> 2 so that it will play nicely in PPT 2000.

Yes, if you have QuickTime Pro. you can save it with the Cinepak codec.

> I converted the MOV file I've been working with to a AVI file via Quick
Time
> PRO 4.0. The PPT presentation is going on a CD so size isn't that much of
> any issue but the file size jumped from 2 MB (MOV) to 22 MB (AVI). I then
> explored the conversion options from an AVI to MOV ver 2 but there didn't
> seem to be such an option.

The size jump is pretty much expected. The other problem your going to run
into is a loss of quality. With each "compression" or conversion of the
file you loose image quality.

Being able to play multimedia has become a real PITA with the three major
players (MS, Apple, Real) all trying to pretend the others don't exist.
Just a side note, have you looked at some of the newer MS multimedia stuff?
ASF has some real advantages.

Sonia

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Oooooo! He finally said it! "ASF has some real advantages." LOL!! I haven't
used it for video yet, but for sound it definitely has some advantages (assuming
the right codec is in place, of course <G>).

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Mark

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You all say ASF has some real advantages... is there a site where I might
get a comparison of the advantages/disadvantages between the different
formats OR you anyone care to give a brief list of the advantages of ASF?

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Sonia

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Best thing might be to try it yourself to see if you agree. Like I said above,
I haven't used it for video. However, I have a couple of tutorials on creating
your own audio ASF file at http://www.soniacoleman.com/Tutorials.htm . Look
near the bottom of that page.

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