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God Itself

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Sep 29, 2008, 12:43:25 PM9/29/08
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Hi,

i have ppt document with around 50 tables (ONLY objects as charts and tables
pasted special from Excel as links)

during each document save file becomes larger and larger (from 2 MB to 200
MB after 100 saves).

fast save is disabled.

what is the problem and how can i repair already big files?

WIN XP SP2, OFFICE 2003 PRO SP SP3

regards


LVTravel

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Sep 29, 2008, 1:16:07 PM9/29/08
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"God Itself" <g...@heaven.in> wrote in message
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Others may come up with a different solution but what happens if you do a
file Save As with a new filename?


God Itself

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Sep 29, 2008, 1:26:22 PM9/29/08
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same big file size...

Peter

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Sep 29, 2008, 2:17:23 PM9/29/08
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Greetings Almighty One

I thought you'd know this already!

I'm going to suggest a commercial product. Please know that I have
absolutely no commercial relationship with the vendors other than
being a satisfied customer. The product does what it says for me,
though most of the PowerPoint documents I've tried it on have been
heavy with photos, rather than charts and tables. However the results
have been amazing like one 17MB file optimised to 400K with no
noticeable loss of quality. I've used NXPowerLite with MS Office 2003
and 2007 documents.

Get the evaluation copy of NXPowerLite. It will do 10 compresses of
your PowerPoint or other Office files, and save them
as .ppt, .doc, .xls etc documents.

The following is from their website:
"Microsoft Office files that contain images, graphics, charts or
embedded documents will compress incredibly well using NXPowerLite.
These same files tend to compress poorly using standard Zip
compression. If you have created a large Word, Excel or PowerPoint
file that contains images, charts or graphics, NXPowerLite Desktop
Edition can significatly reduce the file size."

http://www.nxpowerlite.com/index.php?ld=n

One of the things I like best about this product is that it interfaces
seamlessly with Outlook. Whenever you email an Office document it gets
optimised before being sent.

HTH

Regards,
Peter

God Itself

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Sep 29, 2008, 2:55:15 PM9/29/08
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Hi Peter,

i wrote:

" ONLY objects as charts and tables pasted special from Excel as links "

so it does mean that there are no object which may be compressed (like bmp,
wav, tiff etc) and any Optimizer is useless [0% compressed]

i guess that problem may be in OLE temporary attributes which left inside
ppt file
when link is updated Powerpoint keeps info about it and when ppt is upadeted
many times than file size grows...

regards


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Peter

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Sep 29, 2008, 3:09:02 PM9/29/08
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I would still try NXPowerLite (free, evaluation copy) on one of your
files. Apparently Office 2003 formats are notorious for becoming
bloated with lots of unnecessary stuff. The optimiser strips all of
this out. What have you got to lose?

Regards,
Peter

God Itself

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Sep 29, 2008, 3:54:11 PM9/29/08
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Hi Peter,

i tried - so this is also why i wrote 0% compressed

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Peter

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Sep 29, 2008, 4:02:00 PM9/29/08
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OK, thanks

I have nothing further to suggest.

Regards,
Peter

God Itself

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Sep 29, 2008, 4:41:00 PM9/29/08
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Anyway,

let anyone, who is interested, try download empty ppt file.
http://rapidshare.com/files/149490965/temp.ppt.html

only 1 slide, no objects, size almost 40 MB..

that's ridiculous

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John Wilson

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Sep 29, 2008, 5:41:01 PM9/29/08
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Sometimes you get black holes while creating the universe.

More helpfully the file is corrupt. Assuming you can still open your huge
file round trip it (save as html and then open PowerPoint File >
Open>navigate to the htm file )then save as a ppt again.
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LVTravel

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Sep 29, 2008, 5:45:59 PM9/29/08
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Just opened a blank presentation in four different versions of PowerPoint
and saved and found this with Fast Save and font embedding turned off on all
versions:

'97 8 KB file size;
XP (2002) 8 KB file size;
2003 9 KB file size;
2007 30 KB pptx file size but with a Save As 97-2003 file ppt it was 99 KB
file size.

Open Office Impress file saved as PPT '97-XP version was 70 KB.

Veeeeerrrrrrryyyyyyy Interesting!

As for your 40 MB blank file, get rid of the template and see what happens.
The file is set for A4 but that should not be an issue. I suspect that
there is something within the template causing the additional space usage.
I wasn't going to fool around with it too long and certainly wasn't going to
run any possible macros that the file had in it so I didn't even check for
that issue.


Steve Rindsberg

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Sep 29, 2008, 11:10:32 PM9/29/08
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Second John's suggestion.

I downloaded your file, roundtripped to HTML and back.

It's now 14.4kb.

HTML "Round-tripping" to repair corruption
http://www.pptfaq.com/FAQ00526.htm

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Steve Rindsberg, PPT MVP
PPT FAQ: www.pptfaq.com
PPTools: www.pptools.com
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God Itself

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Sep 30, 2008, 1:36:50 AM9/30/08
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Hi

'save as another ppt' does not work
'save as htm' & 'save this htm as ppt' works - but are you sure that i get
the same ppt file (with the same links to Excel)

big thanks

and do you know why the file may become corrupted in such strange way?

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God Itself

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Sep 30, 2008, 1:40:36 AM9/30/08
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Użytkownik "LVTravel" <no...@nothere.com> napisał w wiadomości

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> Just opened a blank presentation in four different versions of PowerPoint
> and saved and found this with Fast Save and font embedding turned off on
> all versions:
>
> '97 8 KB file size;
> XP (2002) 8 KB file size;
> 2003 9 KB file size;
> 2007 30 KB pptx file size but with a Save As 97-2003 file ppt it was 99 KB
> file size.

i checked this too...

> As for your 40 MB blank file, get rid of the template and see what
> happens. The file is set for A4 but that should not be an issue. I
> suspect that there is something within the template causing the additional
> space usage. I wasn't going to fool around with it too long and certainly
> wasn't going to run any possible macros that the file had in it so I
> didn't even check for that issue.

Hi

it's not about template

i deleted old and used new template and this was without any impact on file
size

regards

God Itself

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Sep 30, 2008, 1:45:50 AM9/30/08
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Uzytkownik "Steve Rindsberg" <ab...@localhost.com> napisal w wiadomosci
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> Second John's suggestion.
>
> I downloaded your file, roundtripped to HTML and back.
>
> It's now 14.4kb.
>
> HTML "Round-tripping" to repair corruption
> http://www.pptfaq.com/FAQ00526.htm
>

thanks

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