Re: Matching PowerPoint Color to Photoshop Color

[Jim Lauridson]

I have struggled with the same issue with no explanation or solution.
I have finally resorted to creating a "background" in Photoshop that is
the color I am seeking and inserting it as an image on the back most
layer of the Power Point slide.
Not elegant, but it works.

Gizmette wrote:

> When I get the RGB color from the color-picker in Photoshop and adjust the fill RGB color on an object in PowerPoint, they do not print the same. What's going on? They look the same on my monitor.

[Steve Rindsberg]

In article <1D231679-08F5-4FF2...@microsoft.com>, Gizmette wrote:
> When I get the RGB color from the color-picker in Photoshop and adjust the fill RGB
color on an object in PowerPoint, they do not print the same. What's going on? They
look the same on my monitor.

Photoshop has a tendency to color correct your image for you (whether you want it to or
not). So when you dial in, say, 0R 0G 255B it tries to make it look on your monitor like
it will on whatever output device it thinks it's correcting the color for.

PPT does no color correction whatever other than using special addins.

So what they each show on screen will often be different, even given the same RGB values
to display. Unless you can get Photoshop to quit "helping" you.

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[Martin]

I have found the RGB in PhotoShop then bring it in to PPT and then PPT
changes the numbers.

I put in R-79 G-143 B-169 and it changes it to R-79 G-142 B-168. A very
different color. It happens whether it's a new presentation or existing. Any
ideas as to how to make my color work correctly?

[TAJ Simmons]

Martin,

Turn OFF color management features of photoshop.

Have a look around the menus for "options/preferences" for color management

cheers
TAJ Simmons

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[Steve Rindsberg]

In article <0C8D56C4-3321-4684...@microsoft.com>, Martin wrote:
> I have found the RGB in PhotoShop then bring it in to PPT and then PPT
> changes the numbers.
>
> I put in R-79 G-143 B-169 and it changes it to R-79 G-142 B-168. A very
> different color. It happens whether it's a new presentation or existing. Any
> ideas as to how to make my color work correctly?

Too many unresolved links to various "it"s here.

"then bring it into PPT" ... bring what? The RGB value or an image or ...?

If the color you see for a given RGB value is different in Photoshop and PPT, that's due to
Photoshop's color management.

Or do you mean that if you enter an RGB value into PPT then go back and look at it again, it's
changed?

>
> "Steve Rindsberg" wrote:
>
> > In article <1D231679-08F5-4FF2...@microsoft.com>, Gizmette wrote:
> > > When I get the RGB color from the color-picker in Photoshop and adjust the fill RGB
> > color on an object in PowerPoint, they do not print the same. What's going on? They
> > look the same on my monitor.
> >
> > Photoshop has a tendency to color correct your image for you (whether you want it to or
> > not). So when you dial in, say, 0R 0G 255B it tries to make it look on your monitor like
> > it will on whatever output device it thinks it's correcting the color for.
> >
> > PPT does no color correction whatever other than using special addins.
> >
> > So what they each show on screen will often be different, even given the same RGB values
> > to display. Unless you can get Photoshop to quit "helping" you.
> >
> > --
> > Steve Rindsberg, PPT MVP
> > PPT FAQ: www.pptfaq.com
> > PPTools: www.pptools.com
> > ================================================
> > Featured Presenter, PowerPoint Live 2004
> > October 10-13, San Diego, CA www.PowerPointLive.com
> > ================================================
> >
> >
>

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[Martin]

Thank you all for your replies!

To clarifiy, I grab the original item and sample the desired color within
Photoshop to deteremine the RGB values. I, then, create either the object or
font in PowerPoint. Edit through 'More Color' the RGB color sampled in
Photoshop, then apply those RGB values in PowerPoint. I notice later that the
RGB values, first determined in Photoshop, then applied through 'More Color',
have arbitrarily changed. My question is, how does one encourage PowerPoint
to maintain the exact RGB color values that are required at time of printing?

[Martin]

Thank you all for your replies!

To clarifiy, I grab the original item and sample the desired color within
Photoshop to deteremine the RGB values. I, then, create either the object or
font in PowerPoint. Edit through 'More Color' the RGB color sampled in
Photoshop, then apply those RGB values in PowerPoint. I notice later that the
RGB values, first determined in Photoshop, then applied through 'More Color',
have arbitrarily changed. My question is, how does one encourage PowerPoint
to maintain the exact RGB color values that are required at time of printing?

[Steve Rindsberg]

> To clarifiy, I grab the original item and sample the desired color within
> Photoshop to deteremine the RGB values. I, then, create either the object or
> font in PowerPoint. Edit through 'More Color' the RGB color sampled in
> Photoshop, then apply those RGB values in PowerPoint. I notice later that the
> RGB values, first determined in Photoshop, then applied through 'More Color',
> have arbitrarily changed.

Still trying to get a handle on this. We're halfway there ...

Arbitrarily changed as noted how?

You go back to the "More colors" dialog in PPT and the RGB values there are not the same as the
ones you entered? That's MOST odd if so.

If not that, how are you measuring the RGB values to determine that they've changed?

[aneasiertomorrow]

Hi Martin

As a slight aside, I use pixie to determone rgb - you just point it at
anything and it gives rgb, html, cmyk & hsv values. And it's free :-)
http://nattyware.com/pixie.html

Lucy
--
MOS Master Instructor
www.aneasiertomorrow.com.au

PowerPoint Live 2007 28-31 October in New Orleans www.pptlive.com
See you there

[Martin]

> Arbitrarily changed as noted how?
>
> You go back to the "More colors" dialog in PPT and the RGB values there are not the same as the
> ones you entered? That's MOST odd if so.

This is the only reason for my posting! MS PowerPoint changes my applied RGB
values. Try it yourself! I put in R-79 G-143 B-169 and it changes it to R-79

G-142 B-168. A very different color. It happens whether it's a new
presentation or existing.

Lucy offered Pixie as a freeware work around. Although, I've already
purchased Adobe's Suite, is this freeware more compatible with MS PowerPoint?
The concept is the same - one may 'sample' the color of a picture, font, etc.
Please advise.

[Steve Rindsberg]

In article <BE6E1AE2-1FBC-4044...@microsoft.com>, Martin wrote:
> > Arbitrarily changed as noted how?
> >
> > You go back to the "More colors" dialog in PPT and the RGB values there are not the same as the
> > ones you entered? That's MOST odd if so.
>
> This is the only reason for my posting! MS PowerPoint changes my applied RGB
> values. Try it yourself! I put in R-79 G-143 B-169 and it changes it to R-79
> G-142 B-168. A very different color. It happens whether it's a new
> presentation or existing.

I work with this same dialog quite a lot and have never had this happen in any version of PPT, PC or
Mac. That's why I keep asking questions ... I keep thinking perhaps I'm misunderstanding what you're
doing and/or where. But it seems not.

But in that case, I don't understand what Photoshop has to do with it other than that's where you got
the original RGB values to plug into PPT. In other words, if somebody just handed you arbitrary values
in an email or whatever, the same thing would happen when you entered the values into PPT?

> Lucy offered Pixie as a freeware work around. Although, I've already
> purchased Adobe's Suite, is this freeware more compatible with MS PowerPoint?
> The concept is the same - one may 'sample' the color of a picture, font, etc.
> Please advise.

Pixie's perfectly compatible with PPT. It lets you pick the RGB colors off the screen so you can use
them in PowerPoint or any other program. Very handy little app. But if PPT is changing the values you
enter, I don't see that Pixie will help.

Do you have any add-ins loaded, particularly color management ones?

[Brian Reilly, MVP]

Martin,
As Steve says, we've never seen this before. I tried it and the RGB
values remained the same.

This isn't an Excel object by any chance, is it?

Brian Reilly, MVP