DST Frustration

News from OZ

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Oct 26, 2009, 6:49:46 PM10/26/09

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My phone was inadvertently set to Sydney timezone, not normally a problem
and unbeknownst to me, however over the weekend daylight saving started in
Sydney and not in Brisbane, which is what my phone should have been set to.

Now everything has been adjusted by one hour even after correcting the
timezone back to Brisbane.

My PC which I sync to is definitely set correctly to Brisbane.

If I correct the time for the Brisbane timezone to be correct and then
connect to the PC the PPC is adjusted by one hour.

I am now desperate to fix this before doing a hard reset.

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Dan Field
(Graduate Surveyor)

Todd Allcock

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Oct 26, 2009, 10:39:17 PM10/26/09

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Sometimes the villian in these time zone dramas is the mobile operator,
who incorrectly sets the phone's time zone, since the bulk of mobiles out
there don't bother with the concept of time zones, and just keep the
time. (My operator, T-Mobile USA used to set my Denver, USA based
Windows Mobile phone to Saskatchewan, Canada, during Daylight Savings!)

Try disabling the automatic time/time zone setting (usually a tab at the
bottom of the screen in Start/Settings/Phone) by unticking the checkbox.
Then manually set the time and time zone and see if the appointments line
up correctly.

If not, before you try a hard-reset, uncheck the "Calendar" box in
Activesync (either on the device or PC- it doesn't matter) and resync.
This will clear the calendar data from the device. Now disconnect,
retick the "Calendar" box (on either device,) resync, and a fresh
(hopefully correct!) copy of the Calendar data should sync across to the
phone.

Good luck, Dan!

News from OZ

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Oct 27, 2009, 6:28:08 AM10/27/09

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Thanks for your reply Todd, unfortunately I've tried his already.

I have even done a hard reset but to no avail.

It would appear that daylight saving has been incorrectly applied to
Brisbane.

Any chance someone here could check if the time you get for Brisbane is the
same as you get for Sydney.

sydney should be one hour fast to Brisbane at the moment.

I have been checking by going into >settings >clocks & alarms >leave home as
it should be and change the "Visiting"

i.e. GMT -6 Central US has a current time of 5.24AM
and GMT -6 Mexico City has a current time of 4.24AM

I can only assume this is to do with DST

If I toggle brisbane and Sydney I get the same time, Sydney is in DST at the
moment.

hope this isn't too confusing.

Thanks

Dan

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Beverly Howard

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Oct 27, 2009, 10:57:39 AM10/27/09

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Since the time is maintained as GMT, a quick temp fix for this is to
select an adjacent timezone (eastward) until the internal dst time
change catches up.

Note, some cellular providers time setups may try to override such settings.

imho, ms has really turned the winmobile time system into a nightmare,
then made it worse by refusing to listen to overwhelming input from the
users. fwiw, I hammered on this specific issue for years as an mvp with
essentially zero response from the windows mobile team... totally
unacceptable.

Beverly Howard

News from OZ

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Oct 27, 2009, 4:47:32 PM10/27/09

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Thanks Bev

I have changed my timezone to Vladivstok which is the same offset as
Brisbane (GMT+10) but does obviously not observe DST and all seem OK.

I am about to sync with my PC, which has caused the most probs, so I will
see how we go.

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Dan Field
(Graduate Surveyor)

OWR Surveyors and Town Planning Consultants
90 Herries Street
Toowoomba, Qld. 4350
Ph: (07) 4638 0517
Fax: (07) 4638 0528
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News from OZ

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Oct 27, 2009, 5:16:47 PM10/27/09

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OK so I think I have now got a work around.

I have set my location to Vladivstok GMT+10 instead of Brisbane GMT+10 which
it should be.
I have got AS set to YES sync time when connected
Entries made into outlook sync correctly to PPC
Entries made into PPC sync correctly to outlook

When I say correctly I mean correct Time and date.

So it looks like until daylight saving is over I will be living like a
Russian from Vladivstok

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Dan Field
(Graduate Surveyor)

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Beverly Howard

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Oct 27, 2009, 10:28:31 PM10/27/09

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Glad it worked. For me, the key was understanding that all event times
are stored in gmt on both the ppc and sync pc, then altered for display
or from local to gmt on entry or edit.

fwiw, I have given up on the DST patches and have been using this method
for the last 4-5 time changes... just go in after the notice and select
an adjacent zone, then back to home at the "real" crossover... works for
me since I'm doing everything possible nowadays to avoid any and all travel.

Beverly Howard

Todd Allcock

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Oct 28, 2009, 3:06:22 AM10/28/09

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At 28 Oct 2009 07:16:47 +1000 News from OZ wrote:
> OK so I think I have now got a work around.
>
> I have set my location to Vladivstok GMT+10 instead of Brisbane GMT+10
which
> it should be.
> I have got AS set to YES sync time when connected
> Entries made into outlook sync correctly to PPC
> Entries made into PPC sync correctly to outlook
>
> When I say correctly I mean correct Time and date.
>
> So it looks like until daylight saving is over I will be living like a
> Russian from Vladivstok

That's certainly one solution!

I guess until DST comes to Towoomba, it'll be "Dasvidanya, droog" instead
of "G'day, mate..." ;)

Todd Allcock

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Oct 28, 2009, 2:47:05 AM10/28/09

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I actually checked last night before posting. On my device (WM6 AT&T
Tilt/HTC TyTN II) Sydney is one hour ahead of Brisbane. As I type this,
it's 4:44PM in Brisbane, 5:44 in Sydney.

On my WM5 phone (without the latest DST patch) I get the same times as my
newer phone- 4:44 in Brisbane and 5:44 in Sydney. (Ironically, though,
since it's unpatched the time here in the States is wrong- it thinks DST
ended last Sunday!)

Since you've hard reset, is it possible you need to patch it for DST?

frisbee

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Nov 7, 2009, 12:43:51 PM11/7/09

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Found two useful Microsoft DST sites.

http://support.microsoft.com/gp/cp_dst

http://www.microsoft.com/windowsmobile/en-us/downloads/microsoft/daylight-savings-update.mspx

Ron S.

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Beverly Howard

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Nov 7, 2009, 1:52:28 PM11/7/09

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"Windows phones running Windows Mobile 5.0, Windows Mobile 6.0,
Windows Mobile 6.1, and Windows Mobile 6.5..."

...all others need not apply ;-/

Beverly Howard

frisbee

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Nov 9, 2009, 7:20:02 AM11/9/09

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Yes, I see. Should have read the posts more carefully. Here's a site that
lists recent changes to DST.
http://www.webexhibits.org/daylightsaving/
Ron S.

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