-> Any ActiveSync replacement? <-
Steve JORDI
I just can't stand ActiveSync anymore. This trashy application
is the worst I've ever seen in 28 years of computing.
Now I'm fed up with disconnects, full resync each time (which
takes 32 minutes). There is no way to just sync rapidly my iPaq
before leaving for work in the morning since it's very likely
that the connection will drop in the middle and ask for a full
resync.
I've tested all advises, all proposal and suggesitons, without
success.
Now, is there any tool, even if it's 200 dollars, to replace
active sync?
I'm not talking about IntelliSync, PocketMirror, etc which are
not replacing, just extending.
I don't want any more trace of activesync on my PC and have
a professional product instead.
Any suggestion?
Thanks for any help
Sincerely,
Steve JORDI
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Paul Murphy
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> Hi,
>
> I just can't stand ActiveSync anymore. This trashy application
> is the worst I've ever seen in 28 years of computing.
>
> Now I'm fed up with disconnects, full resync each time (which
> takes 32 minutes). There is no way to just sync rapidly my iPaq
> before leaving for work in the morning since it's very likely
> that the connection will drop in the middle and ask for a full
> resync.
I agree and think you definitely get your moneys worth with Activesync!
While I don't know of a replacement, I have significantly improved the
reliability of my connections. I was using my motherboards onboard VIA USB
1.1 ports for connecting my Windows Mobile 6 device but since I've upgraded
my PC by installing an NEC chipset USB 2.0 PCI adapter card, I can now use
Advanced Network functioning through these new ports and the connections are
no longer dropped. Performance transferring files is still painfully slow
but as long as I leave enough time for synching I can work around that.
It's definitely the weak link with Windows Mobile devices.
Paul
Paul G. Tobey [eMVP]
made when Microsoft's "solution" is free, ships with every Windows Mobile
device, etc. Most people will just muddle through or get it to sync once
and leave it. There's no real incentive for a third party to try to replace
AS (and it's a big job).
Paul T.
"Steve JORDI" <stevejordiK...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Wael
no instrument no spam DOT com> wrote:
> None that I've heard of. Remember that there just isn't much money to be
> made when Microsoft's "solution" is free, ships with every Windows Mobile
> device, etc. Most people will just muddle through or get it to sync once
> and leave it. There's no real incentive for a third party to try to replace
> AS (and it's a big job).
>
> Paul T.
>
>
> news:n16914tpe8pu5est2...@4ax.com...
>
>
>
> > Hi,
>
> > I just can't stand ActiveSync anymore. This trashy application
> > is the worst I've ever seen in 28 years of computing.
>
> > Now I'm fed up with disconnects, full resync each time (which
> > takes 32 minutes). There is no way to just sync rapidly my iPaq
> > before leaving for work in the morning since it's very likely
> > that the connection will drop in the middle and ask for a full
> > resync.
>
> > I've tested all advises, all proposal and suggesitons, without
> > success.
>
> > Now, is there any tool, even if it's 200 dollars, to replace
> > active sync?
>
> > I'm not talking about IntelliSync, PocketMirror, etc which are
> > not replacing, just extending.
> > I don't want any more trace of activesync on my PC and have
> > a professional product instead.
>
> > Any suggestion?
>
> > Thanks for any help
>
> > Sincerely,
> > Steve JORDI
>
> > (Remove the K_I_L_LSPAM from my email address)
> > ------------------------------------------------
> > Switzerland WWW: www.sjordi.com
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> > Volcanoes at www.sjordi.com/volcanoes
> > MovieDB at www.sjmoviedb.com
>
> - Show quoted text -
It is time to switch to blackberry or Palm OS. The palm is my
favorite, but i don't think it supports Vista yet.
Paul G. Tobey [eMVP]
that works in a much more logical, to me at least, manner. Microsoft just
needs to fix the problem but, for some unknown reason, they don't seem to be
able to do it.
Paul T.
"Wael" <sed...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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Todd Allcock
"Steve JORDI" <stevejordiK...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Hi,
>
> I just can't stand ActiveSync anymore. This trashy application
> is the worst I've ever seen in 28 years of computing.
Don't sugarcoat it Steve, tell us how you really feel... ;-)
> Now I'm fed up with disconnects, full resync each time (which
> takes 32 minutes). There is no way to just sync rapidly my iPaq
> before leaving for work in the morning since it's very likely
> that the connection will drop in the middle and ask for a full
> resync.
>
> I've tested all advises, all proposal and suggesitons, without
> success.
>
> Now, is there any tool, even if it's 200 dollars, to replace
> active sync?
That really depends on WHAT you sync. Primarily PIM data or files?
If it's primarily PIM data, and you can connect to the internet without
docking (WiFi, cellular, etc.) I'd suggest using hosted Exchange, or if you
want a no-cost alternative, SyncML or a variant. SyncML is a "generic" PIM
sync system designed for mobile phones of all varieties. Clients exist for
standard "dumbphones" and various smartphones (including Windows Mobile
PDAs) as well as PCs.
Essentially SyncML is a platform-independent alternative to using an
Exchange server. You sync your PC (or PCs) and phones/PDAs with a SyncML
server. I've been testing the Funambol software (www.funambol.com), an open
source SyncML client, syncing to a server at www.scheduleworld.com for a
couple of months now and am relatively pleased. I sync to my PC with
Activesync about once a month or so, to keep synchronized files and IE
mobile favorites updated, but no longer sync Calendar, Contacts or Tasks
directly. A "Funambol plug-in" for Outlook syncs my PCs to the server, and
the WinMo Funambol plug-in on my WinMo device handles things on the device
end. As a bonus, it keeps my four Outlook-equipped PCs in sync as well,
without paying for an Exchange server.
Funambol is not without hiccups- it doesn't seem to like user-defined
color-coded Contacts or Calendar categories created in Outlook 2007, but any
default categories or those I create from the PPC sync ok. If security
(storing your PIM data on someone else's server) is a problem, you can
dowload the Funambol server software and run it on one of your own PCs and
be your own server, eliminating any security issues. My eventual goal to
move my data "in-house" and run the Funambol server on my main PC, but so
far the free hosted service at scheduleworld is working fine.
> I'm not talking about IntelliSync, PocketMirror, etc which are
> not replacing, just extending.
> I don't want any more trace of activesync on my PC and have
> a professional product instead.
>
> Any suggestion?
I've not found ANY wired PC-to-device Activesync replacements available
anywhere at any price. Server-based sync is as close as you'll get.
There's even a file sync option if you run the server software on your PC
(otherwise you can "cloud sync" to a hosted server, but that doesn't make
access of the files on your home PC easy- the PC Outlook connector doesn't
have a file sync function like the PPC client does.)
DevilsPGD
<stevejordiK...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>I just can't stand ActiveSync anymore. This trashy application
>is the worst I've ever seen in 28 years of computing.
>
>Now I'm fed up with disconnects, full resync each time (which
>takes 32 minutes). There is no way to just sync rapidly my iPaq
>before leaving for work in the morning since it's very likely
>that the connection will drop in the middle and ask for a full
>resync.
>
>I've tested all advises, all proposal and suggesitons, without
>success.
>
>Now, is there any tool, even if it's 200 dollars, to replace
>active sync?
>
>I'm not talking about IntelliSync, PocketMirror, etc which are
>not replacing, just extending.
>I don't want any more trace of activesync on my PC and have
>a professional product instead.
I'm using Synthesis' SyncML client to synchronize the PIM
(Contact/Calendar/Tasks) data between my WM6.1 device and a central
server, I can then access said data via web interface, Outlook's GUI
(Using either SyncML or a proprietary Outlook Connector client), as well
as access my Calendar in the open-source Sunbird client, my Contacts in
Thunderbird, and my data roams with me to other devices too.
I still have Windows Mobile Device Center (Vista's ActiveSync) on my PC
as I have a couple apps that rely on it and don't have a SyncML
alternative, but for PIM data, Synthesis' solution is fantastic.
DevilsPGD
<c819c135-5bea-4324...@34g2000hsh.googlegroups.com> Wael
<sed...@gmail.com> wrote:
>It is time to switch to blackberry or Palm OS. The palm is my
>favorite, but i don't think it supports Vista yet.
Palm has moderate Vista support, although they haven't figured out x64
support yet.
I've been a long-term Palm user, Palm's inability to figure out Vista
for over a year after it's release, or x64 (to date) pushed me away.
If you want to read my full rant, go nuts:
http://www.thedave.ca/wordpress/index.php/2008/01/20/how-palm-has-lost-another-loyal-customer/
David
"Steve JORDI" wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I just can't stand ActiveSync anymore. This trashy application
> is the worst I've ever seen in 28 years of computing.
>
> Now, is there any tool, even if it's 200 dollars, to replace
> active sync?
>
Hi Steve,
Have you tried PDA-Sync from Laplink?
I'm in the same boad - my touch cruise with WM6 and AS4.5 is taking >4 HOURS
to sync!
It gets stuck on the calendar saying "processing" but seemingly doing
nothing and offering no explanation.
I've downloaded PDA-sync, but not got around to trying it yet. (I'm sick of
stuffing around with computers!)
I think i'm about to try it if this sync ever finishes.
Steve JORDI
well, no I never tried PDA-Sync from Laplink but will definitely take
a look at it.
When my PDA got stuck, I noticed that ActiveSync was showing
activities but the icon on the PDA didn't, so I guess that you
actually can just disconnect the PDA as it is not working.
ActiveSync is stuck.
Then start over and pray :-)
Steve
Sincerely,
Steve JORDI
just have installed PDASync from LapLink.
Unfortunatelly, it's exactly what I was fearing the worst:
it DOESN'T WORK WITHOUT /(&%ç/"&%ç ACTIVESYNC!
So as all other solution, it is based on that crappy unstable
piece of junk to connect to the PDA.
That's too bad! Really too bad.
So even if you go through PDASync, you will still lose your
connections, have unexpected resync without asking, etc.
ActiveSync will continue to bully you as it always did.
Really too bad.
Juan I. Cahis
sold today.
Steve JORDI <stevejordiK...@hotmail.com> wrote:
Thanks
Juan I. Cahis
Santiago de Chile (South America)
Note: Please forgive me for my bad English, I am trying to improve it!
Todd Allcock
> Ok David,
>
> just have installed PDASync from LapLink.
>
> Unfortunatelly, it's exactly what I was fearing the worst:
> it DOESN'T WORK WITHOUT /(&%ç/"&%ç ACTIVESYNC!
>
> So as all other solution, it is based on that crappy unstable
> piece of junk to connect to the PDA.
Have you tried a SyncML solution like DevilsPGD and I suggested a month ago?
It's not Acticvesync-based at all...
Steve JORDI
I checked the informaiton on SyncML which definitely looks nice.
My problem is that it seems to only support the generic PIM
information.
But I also need to sync 3rd party applications data.
PocketQuicken, TimeTracker, WorldMate Pro, MovieGuide, etc...
And this is not supported. :-(
Actually I sync my PIM info with my iPhone. If I have a PDA
it's only for those extra applications.
Am I stuck with ActiveSync?
Todd Allcock
> I checked the informaiton on SyncML which definitely looks nice.
> My problem is that it seems to only support the generic PIM
> information.
> But I also need to sync 3rd party applications data.
> PocketQuicken, TimeTracker, WorldMate Pro, MovieGuide, etc...
> And this is not supported. :-(
How is the info synched- via "conduits" added to Activesync, or simply by
synching their data files by placing them in the (Device Name)_My Documents
sync directory? If the former, yes, you're screwed- if the latter, you
could use Funambol's "Briefcase" sync function (but that requires running
the Funambol server software on your own PC rather than using a pre-
existing "cloud" server like Scheduleworld.)
> Actually I sync my PIM info with my iPhone. If I have a PDA
> it's only for those extra applications.
> Am I stuck with ActiveSync?
Probably, but I find Activesync far less flakey when PIM info isn't
involved! If you use Funambol for synching your PIM data, Activesync might
work better for you.
Steve JORDI
Thanks for your prompr reply.
>How is the info synched- via "conduits" added to Activesync, or simply by
>synching their data files by placing them in the (Device Name)_My Documents
>sync directory?
Mhhh, I'll have to check this once back at home.
But it seems to me that most of my apps use a conduit.
>If the former, yes, you're screwed- if the latter, you
>could use Funambol's "Briefcase" sync function (but that requires running
>the Funambol server software on your own PC rather than using a pre-
>existing "cloud" server like Scheduleworld.)
Well, that would not be a problem, my own laptop runs 24/24 anyway, so
I could connect from anywhere.
>Probably, but I find Activesync far less flakey when PIM info isn't
>involved! If you use Funambol for synching your PIM data, Activesync might
>work better for you.
Really? Good to know. In that case I will try synching all PIM data
via SyncML a.s.a.p and see whether ActiveSync behaves a bit better
with the other syncs.
Thanks for the tip.
Todd Allcock
> >Probably, but I find Activesync far less flakey when PIM info isn't
> >involved! If you use Funambol for synching your PIM data, Activesync
might
> >work better for you.
>
> Really? Good to know. In that case I will try synching all PIM data
> via SyncML a.s.a.p and see whether ActiveSync behaves a bit better
> with the other syncs.
Certainly the rest of Activesync isn't problem-free, but in my experience
the bulk of it's problems comes from it's handling of Outlook .pst files.
A decidedly non-scientific sampling of trouble on this NG would seem to
back that up- the number of PIM sync problems (particular calendar/contact
items refusing to sync, one-way syncs, dupcated items, corrupted .pst
files, etc.) seem to greatly outnumber connection problems and file sync
problems.
tax...@yahoo.com
wrote:
> Am I stuck withActiveSync?
Anyone tried Susteen DataPilot?
http://www.susteen.com/
I have not tried it myself, but was considering it some time ago.
Steve JORDI
>http://www.susteen.com/
>
>I have not tried it myself, but was considering it some time ago.
If I'm correct it still relies on ActiveSync (which I try to get rid
off)...