message size

[Leo]

I am running vista 64 bit on a desktop. When I try to receive messages of
about 4 MB size I get the message "NOTE: This message exceeded the maximum
message size and has been truncated. Any attachments may be corrupt". What
is the max messsage size that outlook express will handle and how can I get
messages that are up to 5 MB?

[Bruce Hagen]

Outlook Express couldn't care less. But you are using Windows Mail, not OE.
Probably an issue with your ISP though.

Windows Vista Mail Newsgroup.

In your newsreader:
news://msnews.microsoft.com/microsoft.public.windows.vista.mail

On the Web:
http://www.microsoft.com/communities/newsgroups/en-us/default.aspx?dg=microsoft.public.windows.vista.mail
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Bruce Hagen
MS-MVP [Mail]
Imperial Beach, CA

"Leo" <leo...@xemaps.com> wrote in message
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[VanguardLH]

Leo wrote:

Is this "message" actually inside the e-mail that you receive or a popup
that appears on your local host?

Quotas are established by whomever is your unidentified e-mail provider.
Find out from them what is the max size for a received or sent e-mail
when using whatever account type (personal, premium, business, etc).

[Leo]

The messages I want are attachments to e-mail recieved thru comcast
broad-band internet connection where I am using outlook express. I don't
know where the message is blocked
"VanguardLH" <V...@nguard.LH> wrote in message
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[Bruce Hagen]

It doesn't matter what e-mail client you are using, the error message is
coming from Comcast. Contact their help & support for the answer.
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Bruce Hagen
MS-MVP [Mail]
Imperial Beach, CA

"Leo" <leo...@xemaps.com> wrote in message

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[Leo]

Comcast tells me that the answer has to come from microsoft since its their
outlook express
"Bruce Hagen" <Nos...@mymail.invalid> wrote in message
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[Bruce Hagen]

Comcast is probably full of it, but...

Can you receive the message on the Vista computer with Windows Mail? What
computer are you running that is using OE that will not download the
message? (Win2K, XP, etc.).

How have you determined the size of the *entire* message? Comcast /does/
have a 10MB limit and due to the encoding, that equates to a max message of
approximately 7MB due to the encoding space used.

http://www.comcast.com/Customers/Faq/FaqDetails.ashx?Id=4823
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Bruce Hagen
MS-MVP [Mail]
Imperial Beach, CA

"Leo" <leo...@xemaps.com> wrote in message

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[Ron Sommer]

Do you have Web access to the Comcast account?
How much space is used on the Comcast server?
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Ron Sommer
MVP-Mail

"Leo" <leo...@xemaps.com> wrote in message

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[Curious]

Comcast is full of u-know-what.
Every broadband e-mail provider such as Comcast sets a maximum size that an
outgoing e-mail attachment can be. and 4GB is a reasonable limit.
They certainly do not want you trying to send 2 hour 16 GB HD TV recordings
to you friends over their network.

"Leo" <leo...@xemaps.com> wrote in message

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[Leo]

On further analysis, I note that the new computer is running windows mail
ver6-I had been using outlook express and thought since I transferred the
address book etc from outlook that it was actually using OE. The computer is
an XP420

"Bruce Hagen" <Nos...@mymail.invalid> wrote in message

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[Leo]

I don't store any info on a web page so the only capacity I am using is the
e-mail between downloads
"Ron Sommer" <rso...@nospam.ktis.net> wrote in message
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[Bruce Hagen]

I am still confused. Windows Mail is /only/ available in Vista. I also do
not know what the 420 after XP means.

Click on Start | Run and type in:

winver

What does that tell you?

And is this computer the one you are having the issue with? According to
your message headers, it is Windows Mail in Vista and not Outlook Express.

X-Newsreader: Microsoft Windows Mail 6.0.6001.18000
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.0.6001.18049
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Bruce Hagen
MS-MVP [Mail]
Imperial Beach, CA

"Leo" <leo...@xemaps.com> wrote in message

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[VanguardLH]

Leo wrote:

I use Comcast. I believe their quota regarding maximum message size is
10MB. However, just because the sender claimed they attached a file
smaller than that doesn't mean it was smaller than that. All e-mail,
and I mean ALL e-mail, gets sent as text. Whether RTF, HTML, or with
binary attachments, all e-mail is transmitted using ASCII characters.
Binary files that are attached must get converted into long text strings
inside of MIME parts within the body of the message. Your e-mail client
shows those MIME part (with disposition = attach) as attachments but
they are still physically within the body of the e-mail. The conversion
from binary to text will bloat the size of the converted content by
137%, or more. The sender needs to save a draft copy of their e-mail
before they send it and look in the Size column in the Drafts folder to
see how big is their message. This also means that add-ons aren't used
to manage the attachments since they may not attach the files until
during the transmission (i.e., they aren't in the draft but only during
the send).

Use the webmail interface to your Comcast account. Then see what the
size is reported there for the Inbox item(s). If under 10MB then you
have a client-side application that is limiting the size of your
incoming e-mails.

[VanguardLH]

Leo wrote:

> Comcast tells me that the answer has to come from microsoft since its their
> outlook express

Not if the message you cite is INSIDE the e-mail that you receive.

[BillW50]

In news:OU$PEQpKK...@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl,
Bruce Hagen typed on Mon, 31 Aug 2009 16:37:33 -0700:

> I am still confused. Windows Mail is /only/ available in Vista. I
> also do not know what the 420 after XP means.

Well if you want me to guess, Dell has a XPS-420 model which comes with
Vista.

--
Bill
Gateway MX6124 ('06 era) - Windows XP SP2

[PA Bear [MS MVP]]

You're not running OE in Vista.

You'll find support for Windows Mail in this newsgroup:
news://msnews.microsoft.com/microsoft.public.windows.vista.mail

WTF is someone attempting to send you a ~4 MB email?
--
~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Client - since 2002
www.banthecheck.com

[Steve Cochran]

4 GB?

Please. I got a 16 megabyte email last week and was furious.

steve

"Curious" <spam...@nomail.com> wrote in message
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[Curious]

Yes some e-mail providers allow their users to send 16GB or even larger
attachments.

"Steve Cochran" <scoc...@oehelp.com> wrote in message
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[John]

Interesting. What's the name of the ISP?

"Curious" <spam...@nomail.com> wrote in message

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[Curious]

I don't know the name of the ISP that was used by someone to send Steve a
16GB attachment.

"John" <a> wrote in message news:#ezYqsxK...@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

[John]

Huh?????

You said this:

> Every broadband e-mail provider such as Comcast sets a maximum size that
> an outgoing e-mail attachment can be. and 4GB is a reasonable limit

and this:

> Yes some e-mail providers allow their users to send 16GB or even larger
> attachments.

I'd like to know what ISP allows us to send 16GB because I've never heard of
it. Also, 4GB is NOT reasonable limit. And last, Steve's reply says 16
megabyte (MB), not 16 gigabyte (GB).

"Curious" <spam...@nomail.com> wrote in message

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[Bruce Hagen]

Steve did not get a 16GB attachment. He was furious that someone sent him a
16MB e-mail. Much smaller but still huge when it comes to downloading.
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Bruce Hagen
MS-MVP [Mail]
Imperial Beach, CA

"Curious" <spam...@nomail.com> wrote in message

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[Curious]

Woops I meant 16MB not 16GB

"John" <a> wrote in message news:OtitCFzK...@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

[@nomail.afraid.org FromTheRafters]

Must be that new DoS extension to the MIME extension to the e-mail
system. :o)

Now we could probably repurpose FTP to send small text messages to each
other.

"Steve Cochran" <scoc...@oehelp.com> wrote in message
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[Anthony Buckland]

"PA Bear [MS MVP]" <PABe...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> ... WTF is someone attempting to send you a ~4 MB email?

> --
> ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)

> ...

I routinely get emails with PowerPoint shows attached to
them, and in this category I think of 4 MB as quite
reasonable. One I got this morning was over 10 MB,
and receiving it presented no problems. Later in the
thread the OP's service provider was asked about.
Mine is Telus (Canadian). Clearly >8 MB is possible
with them, and I wouldn't be that surprised if someone
in my circle of friends tested 16 MB sometime soon.

[Steve Cochran]

Maybe its a feature of Walmail. <G>

steve

"FromTheRafters" <erratic @nomail.afraid.org> wrote in message
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[Steve Cochran]

<ROFL>

"Curious" <spam...@nomail.com> wrote in message

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[Leo]

The winver is windows ver 6 -vista home premium-64 bits. XP420 is Dells
model number-the mail program is windows mail-I screwed up in the earlier
e-mails ssaying it was outlook express-I had used outlookexpress for many
years before this new computer and failed to notice that Dell had loaded
windows mail instead.

"Bruce Hagen" <Nos...@mymail.invalid> wrote in message

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[Leo]

Sorry-my e-mail is from windows mail-not outlook express

"VanguardLH" <V...@nguard.LH> wrote in message

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[Leo]

Someone is trying to send me a 4 MB e-mail ATTACHMENT and its one I want to
receive
"Anthony Buckland" <anthonybuc...@telus.net> wrote in message
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[Richard in AZ]

Go to your ISP's webmail site and download the attachment from there.
Then delete that message.

"Leo" <leo...@xemaps.com> wrote in message news:OD8F$L$KKHA...@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

[N. Miller]

On Tue, 1 Sep 2009 06:49:50 -0700, Curious wrote:

> Yes some e-mail providers allow their users to send 16GB or even larger
> attachments.

I'd like to know which one. Comcast only allows 10 MB, total
(message+attachment). Even Yahoo! only allows 25 MB, total
(message+attachment). I am pretty sure that Google does not allow more than
25 MB. And do you have any idea what 4 GB relates to? It is a 26 episode
anime series, at 30 minutes per episode; takes me several hours to download
such a series using uTorrent, and a somewhat fast (3 mb/s) connection.
Assumes the sending server can max my download pipe.

--
Norman
~Oh Lord, why have you come
~To Konnyu, with the Lion and the Drum

[PA Bear [MS MVP]]

You can post your query to this Windows Mail-specific newsgroup:
news://msnews.microsoft.com/microsoft.public.windows.vista.mail

Leo wrote:
> Someone is trying to send me a 4 MB e-mail ATTACHMENT and its one I want
> to

> receive...

[Curious]

You did not read my correction post to the post you are responding to
Entitled Woops
where I stated that I meant 16MB and not 16GB.

"N. Miller" <anon...@msnews.aosake.net> wrote in message
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[Leo]

The winver is windows ver 6 -vista home premium-64 bits. XP420 is Dells
model number-the mail program is windows mail-I screwed up in the earlier
e-mails ssaying it was outlook express-I had used outlookexpress for many
years before this new computer and failed to notice that Dell had loaded
windows mail instead.

"Bruce Hagen" <Nos...@mymail.invalid> wrote in message
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[PA Bear [MS MVP]]

You can post your query to this Windows Mail-specific newsgroup:
news://msnews.microsoft.com/microsoft.public.windows.vista.mail

[Bruce Hagen]

Yeah. I think I mentioned that to the OP 3 days ago. Guess he wanted to
believe he still had OE. Can't blame him for that, I guess. <VBEG>
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Bruce Hagen
MS-MVP [Mail]
Imperial Beach, CA

"PA Bear [MS MVP]" <PABe...@gmail.com> wrote in message

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[PA Bear [MS MVP]]

cf.
http://groups.google.com/group/microsoft.public.windows.vista.mail/browse_frm/thread/fa4c38340fc64e07

Bruce Hagen wrote:
> Yeah. I think I mentioned that to the OP 3 days ago. Guess he wanted to
> believe he still had OE. Can't blame him for that, I guess. <VBEG>
>

[Bruce Hagen]

To be expected. <w>

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