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Snuffy "Hub Cap" McKinney
Sep 21, 2015, 6:27:05 PM9/21/15
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Never had a problem in 10 years until now. Once in awhile now, when I send an email, it is not stored in the Sent folder. Sometimes I shows up later, other times never shows up again. I don't see any other issues with OE6 or other software. There is plenty of memory, etc.
Anyone ever hear about this and have an idea how to fix it?
Thanks.
Anyone ever hear about this and have an idea how to fix it?
Thanks.
Bruce Hagen
Sep 21, 2015, 8:30:03 PM9/21/15
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"Snuffy "Hub Cap" McKinney" <Snuffy-...@Livebait-McKinney.com> wrote in
message news:boGdnQkF5ZSlGZ3L...@earthlink.com...
Move most of your messages out of the Inbox and Sent Items, then create new
Outbox and Sent Items folders after you move any messages you wish to save
to a local folder you create.
Tools | Options | Maintenance | Store Folder will reveal the location of
your Outlook Express files. Write the location down and navigate to it in
Windows Explorer or, copy and paste it into Start | Run.
In WinXP, the OE user files (DBX and WAB) are by default marked as hidden.
To view these files in Windows Explorer, you must enable Show Hidden Files
and Folders under Start | Control Panel | Folder Options Icon | View, or in
Windows Explorer | Tools | Folder Options | View.
With OE closed, find the DBX files for the Outbox & Sent Items and delete
them. New ones will be created automatically when you open OE.
After you are done, follow up by compacting your folders manually while
working *offline* and do it often.
Click on Outlook Express at the top of the folder tree so no folders are
open. Then: File | Work Offline (or double click Working Online in the
Status Bar). File | Folder | Compact all folders. Don't touch anything until
the compacting is completed.
General precautions for Outlook Express:
Do not archive mail in the Inbox or Sent Items. Create your own user defined
folders and move the messages you wish to save to them. Empty Deleted Items
folder daily. Although dbx files have a theoretical capacity of 2GB, I
recommend about a 300MB max for less chance of corruption.
Information about the maximum file size of the .dbx files that are used by
Outlook Express:
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=903095
Compact often as specified above.
And backup often.
Outlook Express Quick Backup (OEQB Freeware)
http://www.oehelp.com/OEBackup/Default.aspx
message news:boGdnQkF5ZSlGZ3L...@earthlink.com...
Never had a problem in 10 years until now. Once in awhile now, when I send
an email, it is not stored in the Sent folder. Sometimes I shows up later,
other times never shows up again. I don't see any other issues with OE6 or
other software. There is plenty of memory, etc.
You have apparent dbx file corruption.
an email, it is not stored in the Sent folder. Sometimes I shows up later,
other times never shows up again. I don't see any other issues with OE6 or
other software. There is plenty of memory, etc.
Move most of your messages out of the Inbox and Sent Items, then create new
Outbox and Sent Items folders after you move any messages you wish to save
to a local folder you create.
Tools | Options | Maintenance | Store Folder will reveal the location of
your Outlook Express files. Write the location down and navigate to it in
Windows Explorer or, copy and paste it into Start | Run.
In WinXP, the OE user files (DBX and WAB) are by default marked as hidden.
To view these files in Windows Explorer, you must enable Show Hidden Files
and Folders under Start | Control Panel | Folder Options Icon | View, or in
Windows Explorer | Tools | Folder Options | View.
With OE closed, find the DBX files for the Outbox & Sent Items and delete
them. New ones will be created automatically when you open OE.
After you are done, follow up by compacting your folders manually while
working *offline* and do it often.
Click on Outlook Express at the top of the folder tree so no folders are
open. Then: File | Work Offline (or double click Working Online in the
Status Bar). File | Folder | Compact all folders. Don't touch anything until
the compacting is completed.
General precautions for Outlook Express:
Do not archive mail in the Inbox or Sent Items. Create your own user defined
folders and move the messages you wish to save to them. Empty Deleted Items
folder daily. Although dbx files have a theoretical capacity of 2GB, I
recommend about a 300MB max for less chance of corruption.
Information about the maximum file size of the .dbx files that are used by
Outlook Express:
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=903095
Compact often as specified above.
And backup often.
Outlook Express Quick Backup (OEQB Freeware)
http://www.oehelp.com/OEBackup/Default.aspx
Snuffy "Hub Cap" McKinney
Sep 22, 2015, 6:32:40 AM9/22/15
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"Bruce Hagen" <B...@nospam.invalid> wrote in message news:mtq7al$jcf$1...@dont-email.me...
Thanks a lot, Bruce! Sent folder was over 2GB. I following your advice & created new archive folders with smaller number of files, deleted old sent and other folders that had filled up.
Recently, one fellow has been telling me he was getting multiple copies of the same email from me and for me to check for viruses. I checked and none showed up. I asked around and no one else was seeing this happening, so I figured it was his system. Do you think my having a large SENT folder may have been the problem?
Recently, one fellow has been telling me he was getting multiple copies of the same email from me and for me to check for viruses. I checked and none showed up. I asked around and no one else was seeing this happening, so I figured it was his system. Do you think my having a large SENT folder may have been the problem?
Bruce Hagen
Sep 22, 2015, 9:23:55 AM9/22/15
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"Snuffy "Hub Cap" McKinney" <Snuffy-...@Livebait-McKinney.com> wrote in
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You're very welcome.
It could be Sent Items, or even a corrupt Outbox. E-mail scanning can cause
multiple messages as well.
Why you don't need your anti-virus to scan your email
http://thundercloud.net/infoave/tutorials/email-scanning/index.htm
--
~Bruce
Snuffy "Hub Cap" McKinney
Oct 22, 2015, 11:53:36 AM10/22/15
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"Bruce Hagen" <B...@nospam.invalid> wrote in message news:mtrkll$ptk$2...@dont-email.me...
I ended up renaming the folders.dbx file to save it. New folders.dbx was created automatically and all is back to normal. Except.... I had several archive folders organized under main folders, and now all been moved and are main folders. Also, the mail rules are mostly X-ed out and not working. I am slowly re-directing the mail rules to the folders. Once that's done, I'll move the folders back like before.
Snuffy "Hub Cap" McKinney
Oct 27, 2015, 10:42:29 AM10/27/15
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"Snuffy "Hub Cap" McKinney" <Snuffy-...@Livebait-McKinney.com> wrote in message news:E-KdnTSOx8Him7TL...@earthlink.com...
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It's doing it again -- emails are being sent OK, but the process is interrupted with a "warning" flag. Emails are being left in the Outbox folder and not moved to Sent Items.
I will move all sent mails to a back up folder, then delete the Outbox & Sent dbx files manually and try again....
It's doing it again -- emails are being sent OK, but the process is interrupted with a "warning" flag. Emails are being left in the Outbox folder and not moved to Sent Items.
I will move all sent mails to a back up folder, then delete the Outbox & Sent dbx files manually and try again....
Bruce Hagen
Oct 27, 2015, 1:54:29 PM10/27/15
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You may have a damaged identity especially if it is the default Main
Identity. File | Identities | Add New Identity. Create a new one and
test it. If all is well, you can import your messages and Address Book
from the old identity and delete it.
Snuffy "Hub Cap" McKinney
Oct 27, 2015, 2:02:11 PM10/27/15
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"Bruce Hagen" <bru...@cox.net> wrote in message news:n0odkh$l59$1...@dont-email.me...
Thanks again. Will do that tonight. I cleaned out all the folders and compressed them. Sending emails OK, but still not moving them from the Outbox to Sent Mail, and they are being sent with each cycle. For now, I will send manually and move them to a backup folder temporarily.
Bruce Hagen
Oct 27, 2015, 2:16:09 PM10/27/15
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messages........".
And if you use a security program other than MSE, make sure it is not
scanning email.
Snuffy "Hub Cap" McKinney
Oct 27, 2015, 2:24:46 PM10/27/15
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"Bruce Hagen" <bru...@cox.net> wrote in message news:n0oet5$qov$1...@dont-email.me...
Thanks. Break apart already unchecked. Email scanning is already disabled.
Snuffy "Hub Cap" McKinney
Oct 27, 2015, 3:21:00 PM10/27/15
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"Bruce Hagen" <bru...@cox.net> wrote in message news:n0oet5$qov$1...@dont-email.me...
Just a question ... When I set a new identity, will mail rules also be transferred along with how folders are nested?
When I restored the folders.dbx, all the folders were there, but the I had to go to each message rule and set the destination folders again. Normally this would not be a big deal. But in my case, I have nested folders that have the same names. I know now to give all sub-folders unique names, but that doesn't help me now with the setup I have...
ABC Main Folder
- 1 subfolder
- 2 subfolder
- 3 subfolder
DEF Main Folder
- 1 subfolder
- 2 subfolder
- 3 subfolder
When I restored the folders.dbx, all the folders were there, but the I had to go to each message rule and set the destination folders again. Normally this would not be a big deal. But in my case, I have nested folders that have the same names. I know now to give all sub-folders unique names, but that doesn't help me now with the setup I have...
ABC Main Folder
- 1 subfolder
- 2 subfolder
- 3 subfolder
DEF Main Folder
- 1 subfolder
- 2 subfolder
- 3 subfolder
Snuffy "Hub Cap" McKinney
Oct 27, 2015, 3:22:32 PM10/27/15
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"Bruce Hagen" <bru...@cox.net> wrote in message news:n0oet5$qov$1...@dont-email.me...
I don't know if this means anything, but now with this problem, after email is sent/rec'd, the error/warning window should a warning, but no other info about the warning. Details tab has nothing also.
Bruce Hagen
Oct 27, 2015, 7:00:25 PM10/27/15
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creating new ones. See: Backing up Selected Identity Settings and
Restoring Selected Identity Settings here.
http://www.insideoe.com/backup/partial.htm#settingsbu
Bruce Hagen
Oct 27, 2015, 7:01:07 PM10/27/15
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mac
Oct 27, 2015, 8:38:15 PM10/27/15
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news:n0ovjf$thm$2...@dont-email.me...
> Can you give more details about the warning?
>
And when you do, please bloody snip, this thread is becoming difficult to
follow :-)
mac
(Hi Bruce).
> Can you give more details about the warning?
>
follow :-)
mac
(Hi Bruce).
Bruce Hagen
Oct 27, 2015, 9:12:39 PM10/27/15
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Snuffy "Hub Cap" McKinney
Oct 28, 2015, 1:53:48 PM10/28/15
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"Bruce Hagen" <bru...@cox.net> wrote in message news:n0ovjf$thm$2...@dont-email.me...
There's no info - just the word warning and the warning icon. And clicking on details tabs shows nothing.
Snuffy "Hub Cap" McKinney
Oct 28, 2015, 2:08:31 PM10/28/15
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"Snuffy "Hub Cap" McKinney" <Snuffy-...@Livebait-McKinney.com> wrote in message news:j4mdnYdN-N03lqzL...@earthlink.com...
After sending an email, emails stay in the Outbox and are not moved to the Sent Items folder. It won't let me move emais to the Sent Items folder manually, so yesterday I created a new folder, and after emails are sent, I am moving them from the Outbox to the new folder. This seems to stop it from sending emails repeatedly.
I powered down for the night. This morning, emails are being send normally and move from Outbox to Sent Items file. So, hopefully the rebooting was all that was needed.
Unless there is more trouble I will stop pester you for now!
Thanks again for all the help!!!
I powered down for the night. This morning, emails are being send normally and move from Outbox to Sent Items file. So, hopefully the rebooting was all that was needed.
Unless there is more trouble I will stop pester you for now!
Thanks again for all the help!!!
Snuffy "Hub Cap" McKinney
Oct 28, 2015, 4:52:31 PM10/28/15
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"Snuffy "Hub Cap" McKinney" <Snuffy-...@Livebait-McKinney.com> wrote in message news:jaidnZwQtMCDkqzL...@earthlink.com...
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Spoke too soon. Some emails are being sent and then moved to Sent Items. Others are sent, but stay in the Outbox and get sent again the next time if I don't move them out manually.
Spoke too soon. Some emails are being sent and then moved to Sent Items. Others are sent, but stay in the Outbox and get sent again the next time if I don't move them out manually.
Bruce Hagen
Oct 28, 2015, 7:56:19 PM10/28/15
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>>
>>
>> Can you give more details about the warning?
>
> After sending an email, emails stay in the Outbox and are not moved to the Sent Items folder. It won't let me move emais to the Sent Items folder manually, so yesterday I created a new folder, and after emails are sent, I am moving them from the Outbox to the new folder. This seems to stop it from sending emails repeatedly.
>
> I powered down for the night. This morning, emails are being send normally and move from Outbox to Sent Items file. So, hopefully the rebooting was all that was needed.
>
> Unless there is more trouble I will stop pester you for now!
>
> Thanks again for all the help!!!
> ---
>
> Spoke too soon. Some emails are being sent and then moved to Sent Items. Others are sent, but stay in the Outbox and get sent again the next time if I don't move them out manually.
>
2: Did you try a new identity yet? No need to delete the old one if the
new one doesn't work.
mac
Oct 28, 2015, 9:18:19 PM10/28/15
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mac
Snuffy "Hub Cap" McKinney
Oct 28, 2015, 11:41:15 PM10/28/15
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"Bruce Hagen" <bru...@cox.net> wrote in message news:n0rn6v$kud$1...@dont-email.me...
Positive. I'm using AVG free and just now checked again to be sure it is not scanning email. Have been using the same computer & software for years. No problems until just now. Nothing changed recently with OE or any other programs and no new downloads or updates.
> 2: Did you try a new identity yet? No need to delete the old one if the
> new one doesn't work.
Not yet. Need to get through the work week first. I can already foresee hours of work on this problem.
> 2: Did you try a new identity yet? No need to delete the old one if the
> new one doesn't work.
Snuffy "Hub Cap" McKinney
Oct 28, 2015, 11:41:33 PM10/28/15
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" mac" <macn...@fsmail.net> wrote in message news:n0rs0o$22n$1...@dont-email.me...
Thanks mac, will check it out.
Snuffy "Hub Cap" McKinney
Oct 29, 2015, 3:52:48 PM10/29/15
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"Snuffy "Hub Cap" McKinney" <Snuffy-...@Livebait-McKinney.com> wrote in message news:l5qdneZYX6HECKzL...@earthlink.com...
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Last night I checked the entire computer with AVG and it came out clean. Today I have been sending emails. About 2/3 of them go through and are moved to the Sent folder. The others stay in the Outgoing folder, ready to be sent again if I leave them there. There's nothing in common with the emails that I can see. Whether they go to the same address, size, or are text or have attachments - makes no difference. Sometimes they are sent and moved, other times not.
I'm not going to spend a lot of time on this. If I can't get it solved, I'll install a 3rd party email program next week.
Last night I checked the entire computer with AVG and it came out clean. Today I have been sending emails. About 2/3 of them go through and are moved to the Sent folder. The others stay in the Outgoing folder, ready to be sent again if I leave them there. There's nothing in common with the emails that I can see. Whether they go to the same address, size, or are text or have attachments - makes no difference. Sometimes they are sent and moved, other times not.
I'm not going to spend a lot of time on this. If I can't get it solved, I'll install a 3rd party email program next week.
Snuffy "Hub Cap" McKinney
Oct 30, 2015, 1:29:01 PM10/30/15
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"Snuffy "Hub Cap" McKinney" <Snuffy-...@Livebait-McKinney.com> wrote in message news:y-WdnXSJm9XxCKzL...@earthlink.com...
Welp! I'm giving up on OE6. Today some email is sent normally, others are being sent repeatedly. All are basic short text-only emails. No pattern that I can see.
Will install a 3rd party program this weekend. Any suggestions what works with Win 2000?
" mac" <macn...@fsmail.net> wrote in message news:n0rs0o$22n$1...@dont-email.me...
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> "Snuffy "Hub Cap" McKinney" <Snuffy-...@Livebait-McKinney.com> wrote in
> message
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> http://www.insideoe.com/sitemap.htm#problems
>
> mac
- Thanks mac, will check it out.
>
> "Snuffy "Hub Cap" McKinney" <Snuffy-...@Livebait-McKinney.com> wrote in
> message
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> http://www.insideoe.com/sitemap.htm#problems
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> mac
Welp! I'm giving up on OE6. Today some email is sent normally, others are being sent repeatedly. All are basic short text-only emails. No pattern that I can see.
Will install a 3rd party program this weekend. Any suggestions what works with Win 2000?
Bruce Hagen
Oct 30, 2015, 1:34:30 PM10/30/15
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Snuffy "Hub Cap" McKinney
Oct 30, 2015, 2:35:21 PM10/30/15
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"Bruce Hagen" <bru...@cox.net> wrote in message news:n109j1$uo8$1...@dont-email.me...
Thanks. I think I looked at that before and it wouldn't run on 2000. Might be the time to "up" grade. LOL! Wish I were more computer savy and I would try Linux, but my impression (right or wrong) is that Linux is something for a computer hobbiest. I need something for work.
I have an HP loptop with 8.1 on it and have been trying for a year to learn how to use it. Icons on the desktop disappear from time to time. Big problem is networking. Every time I try to connect to the internet, there's a problem with something - router, connection, etc, and have to unplug and replug connectors. Never had that problem with any other OS from 95 to 2000 & ME. Also still can't swap files over the network - have to upload to a website and then download. Never had any of these problems before.
I can't decide whether to wipe the hard drive and install XP or use it for target practice. Probably will go the target practice route. Besides the Win 8 mess, HP loaded all kinds of stupidware that keeps popping up.
End of rant. Time for lunch!! :OD
Thanks. I think I looked at that before and it wouldn't run on 2000. Might be the time to "up" grade. LOL! Wish I were more computer savy and I would try Linux, but my impression (right or wrong) is that Linux is something for a computer hobbiest. I need something for work.
I have an HP loptop with 8.1 on it and have been trying for a year to learn how to use it. Icons on the desktop disappear from time to time. Big problem is networking. Every time I try to connect to the internet, there's a problem with something - router, connection, etc, and have to unplug and replug connectors. Never had that problem with any other OS from 95 to 2000 & ME. Also still can't swap files over the network - have to upload to a website and then download. Never had any of these problems before.
I can't decide whether to wipe the hard drive and install XP or use it for target practice. Probably will go the target practice route. Besides the Win 8 mess, HP loaded all kinds of stupidware that keeps popping up.
End of rant. Time for lunch!! :OD
Bruce Hagen
Oct 30, 2015, 2:54:40 PM10/30/15
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Snuffy "Hub Cap" McKinney wrote:
http://www.oldapps.com/thunderbird.php?system=Windows_2000
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