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Paul
Backup & Restore:
http://www.insideoe.com/backup/
Backing up and Cloning your OE Identities:
http://www.insideoe.com/backup/clone.htm
This freeware tool backs up everything in OE in seconds. Disregard what is
written in red. That is referring to a different program.
Outlook Express Quick Backup (OEQB):
http://www.oehelp.com/OEBackup/Default.aspx
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Bruce Hagen
MS-MVP [Mail]
Imperial Beach, CA
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Tools | Options | Maintenance | Store Folder will reveal the location of
your Outlook Express files. Press the Tab key to highlight the folder
location, then Ctrl+C. Close OE, then Start | Run | Ctrl+V will put the
location in the box - Click OK and you'll see the OE files. Otherwise, write
the location down and navigate to it in Windows Explorer.
In WinXP, Win2K & Win2K3, the OE user files (DBX and WAB) are by default
marked as hidden. To view these files in Windows Explorer, you must enable
Show Hidden Files and Folders under Start | Control Panel | Folder Options
Icon | View, or in Windows Explorer | Tools | Folder Options | View.
Right click on the Outlook Express folder, (Message Store), and Send To the
Desktop. Copy it to Flash or DVD.
To restore, copy to the Desktop and remove the Read Only attribute in
Properties. In OE: File | Import | Messages. Select Microsoft Outlook
Express 6 and Import from an OE6 Store Directory and point to where you
saved it.
There isn't any shareware that is any easier than the choices I gave you.
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We offer a professional service with full tech backup. As it is online the
server location is irrelevant but you may prefer to deal with someone in the
US rather than the UK, where we are based.
Whatever you select, make sure it is a proper backup system with reliable
and easy retrieval, both in case of disaster recovery and
accidentally-deleted individual file retrieval. Don't expect it to be free!
Beware of the many services that offer limited online storage and that only
do unencrypted file copying. Copying is not the same as a true backup,
which should mirror what is on your drive/s, including changed file names,
modified content and deliberately deleted files. And if you have a network
make sure the system can handle it. Quite a few will handle individual
computers only.
(Should you be interested in more info write to me privately.)
DAS
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See www.oehelp.com/OETip.aspx#6 for the simplest backup information and also
here: www.oehelp.com/backup.aspx
steve
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Should you need more specific information, please ask in the WinMail
newsgroup. They would give you the best advice as many of us have never used
WinMail.
Windows Vista Mail Newsgroup.
In your newsreader:
news://msnews.microsoft.com/microsoft.public.windows.vista.mail
On the Web:
http://www.microsoft.com/communities/newsgroups/en-us/default.aspx?dg=microsoft.public.windows.vista.mail
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Assuming these are the various *dbx files (including folders.dbx) you
can remove them to removable storage for safe-keeping. These files are
what OE uses to display your OE folders and their contents (e-mails).
You can transfer these files to your new laptop's desktop as well, and
then replace the newly created (empty) ones with the ones that you just
moved there by manual means or by importing them into OE.
steve
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OE only imports folders listed in folders.dbx.
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steve
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I -- together -- with a few other 'readers' here do not follow this
guideline. I have c. 1.5 GB in my Inbox, but I do back up daily (proper
backup to external, offsite server) so I could recover my inbox in case of
loss. You will see cries de coeur in this NG from people who have lost part
or all of the messages in their inbox.
I am not aware of a limit on the number of folders.
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Reality: Most people will see corruption long before that.
I know you like keeping your Inbox packed, but unlike most users, at least
you back up OE. For all others.......
General precautions for Outlook Express:
Do not archive mail in the Inbox or Sent Items. Create your own user
defined folders and move the messages you wish to save to them. Empty
Deleted Items folder daily. Although dbx files have a theoretical capacity
of 2GB, I recommend about a 300MB max for less chance of corruption.
Information about the maximum file size of the .dbx files that are used by
Outlook Express:
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=903095
After you are done, follow up by compacting your folders manually while
working *offline* and do it often.
Click on Outlook Express at the top of the folder tree so no folders are
open. Then: File | Work Offline (or double click Working Online in the
Status Bar). File | Folder | Compact all folders. Don't touch anything
until the compacting is completed.
Turn off e-mail scanning in your anti-virus program. It is a redundant
layer of protection that eats up CPUs and causes a multitude of problems
such as time-outs and account setting changes. Your up-to-date A/V program
will continue to protect you sufficiently. For more, see:
http://www.oehelp.com/OETips.aspx#3
In Tools | Options | Maintenance: Uncheck Compact messages in background
and leave it unchecked. {N/A if running XP/SP2}.
And backup often.
Outlook Express Quick Backup (OEQB Freeware)
http://www.oehelp.com/OEBackup/Default.aspx
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>> ���g��l��s�D:l4WdnT5pj44wQtrW...@pipex.net...
>>> It may sound daft but did you try a restart after plugging in the
>>> external drive?
>>>
>>> DAS
>>>
>>> To reply directly replace 'nospam' with 'schmetterling'
>>> ---
>>>
>>> "Paul" <mc...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>> news:OfpP6bHk...@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>>>I dont know why my 250G external hardisk dont work with this new xp
>>>>laptop.
>>>> It worked in my office with my old laptop when I did the copies.
>>>> When I want to transfer the dbx files there to the laptop now,
>>>> the new laptop could not read this hardisk from windows explorer.
>>>> Guess I need to go back to my office tomorrow to copy the files again
>>>> to the usb drive.
>>>>
>>>> "Paul" <mc...@yahoo.com>
>>>> ���g��l��s�D:OQU7JDHk...@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>>>>I will work the transfer in an hour from an external hardisk to the
>>>>>new xp laptop OE6.
>>>>> I had already copied all the 30 dbx files including the folders.dbx
>>>>> to an external hard disk total about 9 gigabytes.
>>>>> Hope it works.
>>>>>
>>>>> "Steve Cochran" <scoc...@oehelp.com>
>>>>> ���g��l��s�D:28F3A06E-41CD-4E20...@microsoft.com...
>>>>>>> ���g��l��s�D:eWAn2b8j...@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>>>> ���g��l��s�D:1ECF2E8D-5FB9-430B...@microsoft.com...
>>>>>>>>>>> Make sure folders.dbx is in that directory and that none of
>>>>>>>>>>> the files are read only. Then use File | Import | Messages
>>>>>>>>>>> and choose OE6 (or 5) format and then choose to import from a
>>>>>>>>>>> directory and then point to that directory.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> steve
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> "Paul" <mc...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>> news:O3g9nP5j...@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>>>>>> Just now, I have successfully moved the OE6 hidden email
>>>>>>>>>>>> folder files to my newly created folder on Drive C of my old
>>>>>>>>>>>> Lap top.
>>>>>>>>>>>> my OE6 there still works.
>>>>>>>>>>>> then, what to do next?
>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> "Paul" <mc...@yahoo.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>> ���g��l��s�D:uDYESu4j...@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ���g��l��s�D:%23fkExyL...@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
"Bruce Hagen" <Nos...@mymail.invalid>
???????:u7k$YHUkKH...@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>> ���g��l��s�D:l4WdnT5pj44wQtrW...@pipex.net...
>>>> It may sound daft but did you try a restart after plugging in the
>>>> external drive?
>>>>
>>>> DAS
>>>>
>>>> To reply directly replace 'nospam' with 'schmetterling'
>>>> ---
>>>>
>>>> "Paul" <mc...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:OfpP6bHk...@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>>>>I dont know why my 250G external hardisk dont work with this new xp
>>>>>laptop.
>>>>> It worked in my office with my old laptop when I did the copies.
>>>>> When I want to transfer the dbx files there to the laptop now,
>>>>> the new laptop could not read this hardisk from windows explorer.
>>>>> Guess I need to go back to my office tomorrow to copy the files again
>>>>> to the usb drive.
>>>>>
>>>>> "Paul" <mc...@yahoo.com>
>>>>> ���g��l��s�D:OQU7JDHk...@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>I will work the transfer in an hour from an external hardisk to the
>>>>>>new xp laptop OE6.
>>>>>> I had already copied all the 30 dbx files including the folders.dbx
>>>>>> to an external hard disk total about 9 gigabytes.
>>>>>> Hope it works.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Steve Cochran" <scoc...@oehelp.com>
>>>>>> ���g��l��s�D:28F3A06E-41CD-4E20...@microsoft.com...
>>>>>>>> ���g��l��s�D:eWAn2b8j...@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>>>>> ���g��l��s�D:1ECF2E8D-5FB9-430B...@microsoft.com...
>>>>>>>>>>>> Make sure folders.dbx is in that directory and that none of the
>>>>>>>>>>>> files are read only. Then use File | Import | Messages and
>>>>>>>>>>>> choose OE6 (or 5) format and then choose to import from a
>>>>>>>>>>>> directory and then point to that directory.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> steve
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> "Paul" <mc...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>>> news:O3g9nP5j...@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Just now, I have successfully moved the OE6 hidden email
>>>>>>>>>>>>> folder files to my newly created folder on Drive C of my old
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Lap top.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> my OE6 there still works.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> then, what to do next?
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Paul" <mc...@yahoo.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> ���g��l��s�D:uDYESu4j...@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ���g��l��s�D:%23fkExyL...@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
About File Corruption:
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/IE/community/columns/filecorruption.mspx
Compacting your folders periodically is a must to keep OE functioning well
and at some point, you may lose all your saved messages if you don't. When
you delete, or move messages, the space they had used remains until you
compact.
***Never touch anything until the compacting is finished.***
See:
www.oehelp.com/OETips.aspx#2
With SP2, automatic background compacting was removed due to problems it
caused. Now you will get a prompt to compact after 100 OE closings, which
you should do, and don't touch anything until it has finished. If you
compact manually, at your convenience, this will also set the counter back
to zero. See this for more information:
http://www.insideoe.com/files/maintain.htm#compact
If you are fully patched, you will also now see a copy of your dbx files
being copied to the Recycle Bin as BAK files. Should something go awry
when compacting, the messages can easily be restored from this backup. A
manual compact will also reset the counter in the registry back to zero
now.
For more info, see the information outlined in red here:
www.oehelp.com/OETips.aspx#2
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Imperial Beach, CA
"Paul" <mc...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>>>> ���g��l��s�D:l4WdnT5pj44wQtrW...@pipex.net...
>>>>> It may sound daft but did you try a restart after plugging in the
>>>>> external drive?
>>>>>
>>>>> DAS
>>>>>
>>>>> To reply directly replace 'nospam' with 'schmetterling'
>>>>> ---
>>>>>
>>>>> "Paul" <mc...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:OfpP6bHk...@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>I dont know why my 250G external hardisk dont work with this new xp
>>>>>>laptop.
>>>>>> It worked in my office with my old laptop when I did the copies.
>>>>>> When I want to transfer the dbx files there to the laptop now,
>>>>>> the new laptop could not read this hardisk from windows explorer.
>>>>>> Guess I need to go back to my office tomorrow to copy the files
>>>>>> again to the usb drive.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Paul" <mc...@yahoo.com>
>>>>>> ���g��l��s�D:OQU7JDHk...@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>I will work the transfer in an hour from an external hardisk to the
>>>>>>>new xp laptop OE6.
>>>>>>> I had already copied all the 30 dbx files including the
>>>>>>> folders.dbx to an external hard disk total about 9 gigabytes.
>>>>>>> Hope it works.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Steve Cochran" <scoc...@oehelp.com>
>>>>>>> ���g��l��s�D:28F3A06E-41CD-4E20...@microsoft.com...
>>>>>>>>> ���g��l��s�D:eWAn2b8j...@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>>>>>> ���g��l��s�D:1ECF2E8D-5FB9-430B...@microsoft.com...
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Make sure folders.dbx is in that directory and that none of
>>>>>>>>>>>>> the files are read only. Then use File | Import | Messages
>>>>>>>>>>>>> and choose OE6 (or 5) format and then choose to import from
>>>>>>>>>>>>> a directory and then point to that directory.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> steve
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Paul" <mc...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:O3g9nP5j...@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Just now, I have successfully moved the OE6 hidden email
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> folder files to my newly created folder on Drive C of my
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> old Lap top.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> my OE6 there still works.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> then, what to do next?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Paul" <mc...@yahoo.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ���g��l��s�D:uDYESu4j...@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ���g��l��s�D:%23fkExyL...@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
"Bruce Hagen" <Nos...@mymail.invalid>
???????:uiiVPwUk...@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>>>> ���g��l��s�D:l4WdnT5pj44wQtrW...@pipex.net...
>>>>>> It may sound daft but did you try a restart after plugging in the
>>>>>> external drive?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> DAS
>>>>>>
>>>>>> To reply directly replace 'nospam' with 'schmetterling'
>>>>>> ---
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Paul" <mc...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:OfpP6bHk...@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>I dont know why my 250G external hardisk dont work with this new xp
>>>>>>>laptop.
>>>>>>> It worked in my office with my old laptop when I did the copies.
>>>>>>> When I want to transfer the dbx files there to the laptop now,
>>>>>>> the new laptop could not read this hardisk from windows explorer.
>>>>>>> Guess I need to go back to my office tomorrow to copy the files
>>>>>>> again to the usb drive.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Paul" <mc...@yahoo.com>
>>>>>>> ���g��l��s�D:OQU7JDHk...@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>>I will work the transfer in an hour from an external hardisk to the
>>>>>>>>new xp laptop OE6.
>>>>>>>> I had already copied all the 30 dbx files including the folders.dbx
>>>>>>>> to an external hard disk total about 9 gigabytes.
>>>>>>>> Hope it works.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "Steve Cochran" <scoc...@oehelp.com>
>>>>>>>> ���g��l��s�D:28F3A06E-41CD-4E20...@microsoft.com...
>>>>>>>>>> ���g��l��s�D:eWAn2b8j...@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>>>>>>> ���g��l��s�D:1ECF2E8D-5FB9-430B...@microsoft.com...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Make sure folders.dbx is in that directory and that none of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the files are read only. Then use File | Import | Messages
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and choose OE6 (or 5) format and then choose to import from a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> directory and then point to that directory.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> steve
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Paul" <mc...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:O3g9nP5j...@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Just now, I have successfully moved the OE6 hidden email
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> folder files to my newly created folder on Drive C of my old
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Lap top.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> my OE6 there still works.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> then, what to do next?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Paul" <mc...@yahoo.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ���g��l��s�D:uDYESu4j...@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ���g��l��s�D:%23fkExyL...@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
That said, the more often you compact OE, the less time it will take. The
way we use our machines is different for everyone, but I compact OE about
once a week and it never takes more that about 20 seconds.
And then with all of that said, all production of OE and WinMail ceased in
June, 2006. Windows Live Mail is the newest e-mail client from MS.
--
Bruce Hagen
MS-MVP [Mail]
Imperial Beach, CA
"Paul" <mc...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>>>>>> ���g��l��s�D:l4WdnT5pj44wQtrW...@pipex.net...
>>>>>>> It may sound daft but did you try a restart after plugging in the
>>>>>>> external drive?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> DAS
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> To reply directly replace 'nospam' with 'schmetterling'
>>>>>>> ---
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Paul" <mc...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>> news:OfpP6bHk...@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>>I dont know why my 250G external hardisk dont work with this new
>>>>>>>>xp laptop.
>>>>>>>> It worked in my office with my old laptop when I did the copies.
>>>>>>>> When I want to transfer the dbx files there to the laptop now,
>>>>>>>> the new laptop could not read this hardisk from windows explorer.
>>>>>>>> Guess I need to go back to my office tomorrow to copy the files
>>>>>>>> again to the usb drive.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "Paul" <mc...@yahoo.com>
>>>>>>>> ���g��l��s�D:OQU7JDHk...@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>>>I will work the transfer in an hour from an external hardisk to
>>>>>>>>>the new xp laptop OE6.
>>>>>>>>> I had already copied all the 30 dbx files including the
>>>>>>>>> folders.dbx to an external hard disk total about 9 gigabytes.
>>>>>>>>> Hope it works.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> "Steve Cochran" <scoc...@oehelp.com>
>>>>>>>>> ���g��l��s�D:28F3A06E-41CD-4E20...@microsoft.com...
>>>>>>>>>>> ���g��l��s�D:eWAn2b8j...@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ���g��l��s�D:1ECF2E8D-5FB9-430B...@microsoft.com...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Make sure folders.dbx is in that directory and that none
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of the files are read only. Then use File | Import |
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Messages and choose OE6 (or 5) format and then choose to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> import from a directory and then point to that directory.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> steve
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Paul" <mc...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:O3g9nP5j...@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Just now, I have successfully moved the OE6 hidden email
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> folder files to my newly created folder on Drive C of my
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> old Lap top.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> my OE6 there still works.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> then, what to do next?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Paul" <mc...@yahoo.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ���g��l��s�D:uDYESu4j...@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ���g��l��s�D:%23fkExyL...@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
"Bruce Hagen" <Nos...@mymail.invalid>
???????:ezuFbVVk...@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>> ���g��l��s�D:l4WdnT5pj44wQtrW...@pipex.net...
>>>>>>>> It may sound daft but did you try a restart after plugging in the
>>>>>>>> external drive?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> DAS
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> To reply directly replace 'nospam' with 'schmetterling'
>>>>>>>> ---
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "Paul" <mc...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>> news:OfpP6bHk...@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>>>I dont know why my 250G external hardisk dont work with this new xp
>>>>>>>>>laptop.
>>>>>>>>> It worked in my office with my old laptop when I did the copies.
>>>>>>>>> When I want to transfer the dbx files there to the laptop now,
>>>>>>>>> the new laptop could not read this hardisk from windows explorer.
>>>>>>>>> Guess I need to go back to my office tomorrow to copy the files
>>>>>>>>> again to the usb drive.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> "Paul" <mc...@yahoo.com>
>>>>>>>>> ���g��l��s�D:OQU7JDHk...@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>>>>I will work the transfer in an hour from an external hardisk to
>>>>>>>>>>the new xp laptop OE6.
>>>>>>>>>> I had already copied all the 30 dbx files including the
>>>>>>>>>> folders.dbx to an external hard disk total about 9 gigabytes.
>>>>>>>>>> Hope it works.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> "Steve Cochran" <scoc...@oehelp.com>
>>>>>>>>>> ���g��l��s�D:28F3A06E-41CD-4E20...@microsoft.com...
>>>>>>>>>>>> ���g��l��s�D:eWAn2b8j...@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ���g��l��s�D:1ECF2E8D-5FB9-430B...@microsoft.com...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Make sure folders.dbx is in that directory and that none of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the files are read only. Then use File | Import | Messages
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and choose OE6 (or 5) format and then choose to import from
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a directory and then point to that directory.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> steve
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Paul" <mc...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:O3g9nP5j...@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Just now, I have successfully moved the OE6 hidden email
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> folder files to my newly created folder on Drive C of my
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> old Lap top.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> my OE6 there still works.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> then, what to do next?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Paul" <mc...@yahoo.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ���g��l��s�D:uDYESu4j...@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ���g��l��s�D:%23fkExyL...@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
1. Move 99% of the messages in Inbox to one or more other, user-created
folder;
2. Empty Sent Items folder; and then...
3. Delete the contents of Deleted Items folder?
Windows Live Mail
http://download.live.com/wlmail
Paul wrote:
> After last night's compaction, this morning I compacted it again.
> It still took me 16 minutes.
> About 5 minutes shorter than last night's though.
> Where is Windows Live Mail found, in Win 7?
> No more compaction needed there?
<blithersnippage>
WLMail can run in XP and Vista as well as Win7.
Windows Live Mail (Overview & Features):
http://get.live.com/wlmail/overview
--
Bruce Hagen
MS-MVP [Mail]
Imperial Beach, CA
"Paul" <mc...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:e1DenuYk...@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>> ���g��l��s�D:l4WdnT5pj44wQtrW...@pipex.net...
>>>>>>>>> It may sound daft but did you try a restart after plugging in
>>>>>>>>> the external drive?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> DAS
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> To reply directly replace 'nospam' with 'schmetterling'
>>>>>>>>> ---
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> "Paul" <mc...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>> news:OfpP6bHk...@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>>>>I dont know why my 250G external hardisk dont work with this new
>>>>>>>>>>xp laptop.
>>>>>>>>>> It worked in my office with my old laptop when I did the
>>>>>>>>>> copies.
>>>>>>>>>> When I want to transfer the dbx files there to the laptop now,
>>>>>>>>>> the new laptop could not read this hardisk from windows
>>>>>>>>>> explorer.
>>>>>>>>>> Guess I need to go back to my office tomorrow to copy the files
>>>>>>>>>> again to the usb drive.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> "Paul" <mc...@yahoo.com>
>>>>>>>>>> ���g��l��s�D:OQU7JDHk...@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>>>>>I will work the transfer in an hour from an external hardisk to
>>>>>>>>>>>the new xp laptop OE6.
>>>>>>>>>>> I had already copied all the 30 dbx files including the
>>>>>>>>>>> folders.dbx to an external hard disk total about 9 gigabytes.
>>>>>>>>>>> Hope it works.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> "Steve Cochran" <scoc...@oehelp.com>
>>>>>>>>>>> ���g��l��s�D:28F3A06E-41CD-4E20...@microsoft.com...
>>>>>>>>>>>>> ���g��l��s�D:eWAn2b8j...@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ���g��l��s�D:1ECF2E8D-5FB9-430B...@microsoft.com...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Make sure folders.dbx is in that directory and that none
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of the files are read only. Then use File | Import |
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Messages and choose OE6 (or 5) format and then choose to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> import from a directory and then point to that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> directory.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> steve
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Paul" <mc...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:O3g9nP5j...@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Just now, I have successfully moved the OE6 hidden
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> email folder files to my newly created folder on Drive
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> C of my old Lap top.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> my OE6 there still works.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> then, what to do next?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Paul" <mc...@yahoo.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ���g��l��s�D:uDYESu4j...@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ���g��l��s�D:%23fkExyL...@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
"PA Bear [MS MVP]" <PABe...@gmail.com>
???????:%230%23WZNZk...@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
"Bruce Hagen" <Nos...@mymail.invalid>
???????:OnPDxTZk...@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>>> ���g��l��s�D:l4WdnT5pj44wQtrW...@pipex.net...
>>>>>>>>>> It may sound daft but did you try a restart after plugging in the
>>>>>>>>>> external drive?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> DAS
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> To reply directly replace 'nospam' with 'schmetterling'
>>>>>>>>>> ---
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> "Paul" <mc...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>> news:OfpP6bHk...@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>>>>>I dont know why my 250G external hardisk dont work with this new
>>>>>>>>>>>xp laptop.
>>>>>>>>>>> It worked in my office with my old laptop when I did the copies.
>>>>>>>>>>> When I want to transfer the dbx files there to the laptop now,
>>>>>>>>>>> the new laptop could not read this hardisk from windows
>>>>>>>>>>> explorer.
>>>>>>>>>>> Guess I need to go back to my office tomorrow to copy the files
>>>>>>>>>>> again to the usb drive.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> "Paul" <mc...@yahoo.com>
>>>>>>>>>>> ���g��l��s�D:OQU7JDHk...@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>>>>>>I will work the transfer in an hour from an external hardisk to
>>>>>>>>>>>>the new xp laptop OE6.
>>>>>>>>>>>> I had already copied all the 30 dbx files including the
>>>>>>>>>>>> folders.dbx to an external hard disk total about 9 gigabytes.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Hope it works.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> "Steve Cochran" <scoc...@oehelp.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>> ���g��l��s�D:28F3A06E-41CD-4E20...@microsoft.com...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ���g��l��s�D:eWAn2b8j...@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ���g��l��s�D:1ECF2E8D-5FB9-430B...@microsoft.com...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Make sure folders.dbx is in that directory and that none
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of the files are read only. Then use File | Import |
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Messages and choose OE6 (or 5) format and then choose to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> import from a directory and then point to that directory.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> steve
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Paul" <mc...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:O3g9nP5j...@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Just now, I have successfully moved the OE6 hidden email
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> folder files to my newly created folder on Drive C of my
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> old Lap top.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> my OE6 there still works.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> then, what to do next?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Paul" <mc...@yahoo.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ���g��l��s�D:uDYESu4j...@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ���g��l��s�D:%23fkExyL...@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
WLMail is the so-called upgrade for OE and WinMail (Vista). It would/could
replace OE for you. However, you can run it along side of OE to see if you
like it.
You can run WLMail and OE at the same time and download incoming mail to
both if you want to give it a try. Sent messages will be only in the Sent
Items folder for the e-mail client used to send.
You can download it here if you wish.
Windows Live Mail (Overview & Features):
http://get.live.com/wlmail/overview
I would suggest you subscribe to the WLMail newsgroup and read some of the
posts & replies. That will give you a better idea of what it is like.
Windows Live Mail [Desktop] Newsgroup.
In your newsreader:
news://msnews.microsoft.com/microsoft.public.windows.live.mail.desktop
If you want to run OE and WLMail at the same time:
In OE and WLMail:
Tools | Accounts | Mail | Properties | Advanced - Check: Leave a copy of
messages on the server.
In OE or WLMail, (not both), check to Delete messages after X days to
satisfy your allotted space you get from your server.
Note that when you install WLMail, it will become the default e-mail
client. If you want to reclaim OE as default, see this.
Control Panel | Add/Remove Programs | Set Program Access and Defaults |
Custom + Down Arrow | Select the radio button for Outlook Express.
Make OE the default e-mail client:
http://www.oehelp.com/oedef.aspx
--
Bruce Hagen
MS-MVP [Mail]
Imperial Beach, CA
"Paul" <mc...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:uEZ$L9ckKH...@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>>>> ���g��l��s�D:l4WdnT5pj44wQtrW...@pipex.net...
>>>>>>>>>>> It may sound daft but did you try a restart after plugging in
>>>>>>>>>>> the external drive?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> DAS
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> To reply directly replace 'nospam' with 'schmetterling'
>>>>>>>>>>> ---
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> "Paul" <mc...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>> news:OfpP6bHk...@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>>>>>>I dont know why my 250G external hardisk dont work with this
>>>>>>>>>>>>new xp laptop.
>>>>>>>>>>>> It worked in my office with my old laptop when I did the
>>>>>>>>>>>> copies.
>>>>>>>>>>>> When I want to transfer the dbx files there to the laptop
>>>>>>>>>>>> now,
>>>>>>>>>>>> the new laptop could not read this hardisk from windows
>>>>>>>>>>>> explorer.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Guess I need to go back to my office tomorrow to copy the
>>>>>>>>>>>> files again to the usb drive.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> "Paul" <mc...@yahoo.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>> ���g��l��s�D:OQU7JDHk...@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>I will work the transfer in an hour from an external hardisk
>>>>>>>>>>>>>to the new xp laptop OE6.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I had already copied all the 30 dbx files including the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> folders.dbx to an external hard disk total about 9
>>>>>>>>>>>>> gigabytes.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hope it works.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Steve Cochran" <scoc...@oehelp.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> ���g��l��s�D:28F3A06E-41CD-4E20...@microsoft.com...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ���g��l��s�D:eWAn2b8j...@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ���g��l��s�D:1ECF2E8D-5FB9-430B...@microsoft.com...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Make sure folders.dbx is in that directory and that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> none of the files are read only. Then use File |
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Import | Messages and choose OE6 (or 5) format and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> then choose to import from a directory and then point
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to that directory.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> steve
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Paul" <mc...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:O3g9nP5j...@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Just now, I have successfully moved the OE6 hidden
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> email folder files to my newly created folder on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Drive C of my old Lap top.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> my OE6 there still works.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> then, what to do next?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Paul" <mc...@yahoo.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ���g��l��s�D:uDYESu4j...@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ���g��l��s�D:%23fkExyL...@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
"Bruce Hagen" <Nos...@mymail.invalid>
???????:%23AsxsMh...@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>>>>> ���g��l��s�D:l4WdnT5pj44wQtrW...@pipex.net...
>>>>>>>>>>>> It may sound daft but did you try a restart after plugging in
>>>>>>>>>>>> the external drive?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> DAS
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> To reply directly replace 'nospam' with 'schmetterling'
>>>>>>>>>>>> ---
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> "Paul" <mc...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>>> news:OfpP6bHk...@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>I dont know why my 250G external hardisk dont work with this
>>>>>>>>>>>>>new xp laptop.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> It worked in my office with my old laptop when I did the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> copies.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> When I want to transfer the dbx files there to the laptop now,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> the new laptop could not read this hardisk from windows
>>>>>>>>>>>>> explorer.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Guess I need to go back to my office tomorrow to copy the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> files again to the usb drive.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Paul" <mc...@yahoo.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> ���g��l��s�D:OQU7JDHk...@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>I will work the transfer in an hour from an external hardisk
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>to the new xp laptop OE6.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I had already copied all the 30 dbx files including the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> folders.dbx to an external hard disk total about 9 gigabytes.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hope it works.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Steve Cochran" <scoc...@oehelp.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ���g��l��s�D:28F3A06E-41CD-4E20...@microsoft.com...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ���g��l��s�D:eWAn2b8j...@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ���g��l��s�D:1ECF2E8D-5FB9-430B...@microsoft.com...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Make sure folders.dbx is in that directory and that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> none of the files are read only. Then use File |
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Import | Messages and choose OE6 (or 5) format and then
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> choose to import from a directory and then point to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that directory.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> steve
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Paul" <mc...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:O3g9nP5j...@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Just now, I have successfully moved the OE6 hidden
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> email folder files to my newly created folder on Drive
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> C of my old Lap top.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> my OE6 there still works.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> then, what to do next?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Paul" <mc...@yahoo.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ���g��l��s�D:uDYESu4j...@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ���g��l��s�D:%23fkExyL...@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
Paul wrote:
> 1. I moved all the previous month's messages in the inbox every month
Move that up to twice-a-week, at minimum. If you receive scores of emails a
day, do it daily.
> 2. I seldom empty Sent Items folder. But it should not be big megabytes
> there. I will do it before compaction next time.
Empty Sent Items (and Deleted Items) before every compacting session.
> 3. I delete all the messages in Deleted Items folder many times every day
>
That only applies to OE and the dbx file issues.
steve
"PA Bear [MS MVP]" <PABe...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:%232h7R1k...@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...