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Wayne-I-M

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Nov 29, 2007, 12:35:01 PM11/29/07
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This may not be the right place to ask this - sorry if it isn't. But as we
send out e mails using outlook I thoug I would try here.

1st thing to note - we have NEVER sent out 1 single e mail to anyone who
didn't ask us to.

I have googled for hours, search companies house, yell, 192.com, etc, etc.
Can't find anything.

Does anyone know who SORBS is (I know what their website says it is). Or
better still their postal address.

We send out e mails to clients "only" and it has cost us money as some of
the e mails have been blocked by this organisation. (SORBS). Our lawers have
prepaired the paperwork and just looking for where to send it.

Any help would be great.

Many thanks

Oh and if you work for SORBS - the days of the self appointed internet
police is comeing to an end. You "are" about to be sued for the loss of
profits for a contract that we would have got had it not been for you.


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Wayne
Manchester, England.

Diane Poremsky

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Nov 29, 2007, 2:12:40 PM11/29/07
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sorbs doesn't block - companies using sorbs do.

why are you in the sorbs list? afaik, they only put dynamic ip's and open
relays in their list.

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Wayne-I-M

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Nov 29, 2007, 3:04:00 PM11/29/07
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Hi Diane

SORBS is just a big list of IP address that "they" feel are sending out
spam. If a company registers with them anyone on theri list has a problem.
Now this would be OK if it wasn't for the fact that is almost imposible to
find out "why" you're on the list.

We are a national company and - to put it politley for this forum - we have
had enough. Basically if you do something that has cost someone money then
(quite simply in UK law) you are resonsible. So we are going to get it back
from SORBS.

If you have time then you could register with sorbs and then omplain about
yourself (use a different IP) then just ask one of your mates to also
register (tell tem not to compain about you). They will not be able to e
mail you - so "anyone" can put "anyone" else on the list - that is illegal
(and just wrong)

As I said this is prob. the wrong place to talk about this (I am in IT not
the legal dept ayway). I was just asking if anyone knew the postal address
(it is unlikely they are based in the UK) so I can pass it on to the legal
chaps.


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Wayne
Manchester, England.

Brian Tillman

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Nov 29, 2007, 3:21:56 PM11/29/07
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Wayne-I-M <Way...@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:

> We send out e mails to clients "only" and it has cost us money as
> some of the e mails have been blocked by this organisation. (SORBS).
> Our lawers have prepaired the paperwork and just looking for where to
> send it.

This is inaccurate. SORBS blocks nothing. It lists IP addresses that
people want to check. Your CLIENTS are the ones who elected to use the
SORBS information to block your incoming mail. You have something in your
mail that's configured in such a way as to flag the IP address from which it
is coming as an invalid mail source. You have a configuration problem that
has gotten you into the SORBS database but, again, SORBS doesn't block
ANYTHING.
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Brian Tillman [MVP-Outlook]

Wayne-I-M

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Nov 29, 2007, 3:35:03 PM11/29/07
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As I said - I am not in the legal dept - just asking.

No worries - Thanks for getting back to me and taking the time to answer.

Got it anyway from another source

Mathew Sullivan
PO Box 5150
2617
Canberra
Australia

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Wayne
Manchester, England.

Diane Poremsky

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Nov 29, 2007, 6:58:11 PM11/29/07
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I know what sorbs is and it is not impossible to find out why you are on it.
As I said, most of the ips are dynamic or open relays. And sorbs only keeps
the list - you need to go to the companies using it and ask for your ip to
be whitelisted (or tell them how stupid sorbs is for blocking legit mail...
I did that when an ISP blocked mail to my employees for my mail server. )

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Pat Willener

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Nov 29, 2007, 9:57:19 PM11/29/07
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In addition to what Brian said, it is also your clients (who received
your mail messages) who put you and your IP address onto the SORBS
blocklist. You may need to sue your clients as well...

Brian Tillman

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Nov 30, 2007, 9:48:18 AM11/30/07
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Wayne-I-M <Way...@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:

> We are a national company and - to put it politley for this forum -
> we have had enough. Basically if you do something that has cost
> someone money then (quite simply in UK law) you are resonsible. So
> we are going to get it back from SORBS.

Well, good luck with that, since it is your recipients that have chosen to
use SORBS. Your beef is with them.
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