POP3 Email continued from 1/17/2009
Liontamer
find some additional comments that I made in response to your answer. Thank
you for your attempt to clarify on my original question.
Now, for those of you reading this discussion, I'd like to offer some of my
own findings on the problem. Again, the problem is: How do I get my hotmail
accounts to work properly with the Outlook 2007 program? I have Windows live
hotmail.
To update those of you just coming into this thread: 1) Getting email
accounts into the Outlook 2007 program was a bit of a hassle. 2) Some of the
features available in Outlook 2007 were not available. Specifically, I
didn't see a column for [Categories] nor a column for [Flags] to the right of
any emails that showed up on my Outlook 2007. Some how I had originally
thought I properly registered my hotmail accounts with Outlook 2007.
What I am going to do now is give those of you reading this thread some
infomation which has taken me hours upon hours to figure out. And I've been
working upon this problem for almost a complete week. Needless to say, I am
exhausted from it all. But I am grateful for the insights from others not
only online in this discussion group, but also tech support at Microsoft,
MSN, MSN Partner Support, Verizon Tech Support and Supervisor level
assistance, and a visit to Micro Center to speak representatives.
Please enjoy this little line, but I must live up to my name: Liontamer.
Let me give some things back now:
HTTP, IMAP, POP3, are just protocols used to move emails about the internet.
Windows Live Hotmail is all ready set up with POP3. It just has to be
enabled. And that's where the fun starts. (I just can't believe what I had
to go through to figure this all out.)
You can find out How to Use a POP3 server to add your Windows Live Hotmail
account to Microsoft Outlook at:
http://co104w.col104.mail.live.com/mail/PrintShell.aspx?type=message&cpids=4a90ba84-...
There you will find the steps to accomplish the proper way to get a hotmail
account into your Outlook 2007 program. You may have to adjust some of the
instructions, but it's all pretty logical if you think about it. You have to
manually configure server settings or additional server types and click next
to be able to follow instruction #4. The rest is pretty straight forward.
You may also be able to track down this page via the Microsoft Outlook help
pages.
There is indeed something called an Outlook Connector. It is available at
Microsoft as a download. Go to:
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=9A2279B1-DF0A-46E1-AA...
I used it to add a second hotmail account to my Outlook 2007 program.
After following the above instuctions and procedures, I was able to properly
get my Windows Live Hotmail accounts into Outlook 2007. And my emails show
the columns used for [Category] and [Flags]. Now I can get some relief.
However, now I've got some other concerns:
Well, I've got folders in these hotmail accounts. And I've noticed that,
even though I have been successful at getting my hotmail accounts into
Outlook, that the emails in the folders of my hotmail accounts did not
transfer over into Outlook 2007. So, I want to figure out how to transfer
the entire folder's contents, instead of sending over each email item, within
each folder, one by one. Yuck! Any Suggestions?
I use Windows XP Professional Media Center Edition, SP3.
I have Outlook 2007 from the Microsoft Office Professional 2007 suite.
Hope I helped some of you reading this. This has been a long learning
process.
Liontamer
Outlook 2007 email accounts. First, move the emails within a folder to the
inbox of your Windows Live Hotmail account. Second, go to your Outlook 2007
email account. Third, click on the [Send/Receive] button in Outlook.
Fourth, create a new folder in Outlook. Fifth, move the emails you just sent
over to the folder you just created. There now. The Lion sleeps tonight.
N. Miller
> You can find out How to Use a POP3 server to add your Windows Live Hotmail
> account to Microsoft Outlook at:
> http://co104w.col104.mail.live.com/mail/PrintShell.aspx?type=message&cpids=4a90ba84-...
Actually, I can't. That just takes me to the Hotmail login page.
Moreover, this is not a continuation of a previous thread, this is a wholly
new thread. You really should do some research on NNTP service, and how
threading therein works.
--
Norman
~Oh Lord, why have you come
~To Konnyu, with the Lion and the Drum
Liontamer
Accounts to work within the Outlook 2007 program. Yes, it was an
exasperating trail finding the answer. But the address I typed was at the
bottom of the web page I accessed to accomplish the objective. I recommend
that you visit the Outlook 2007 Help pages. There is a procedure available
to get your primary program on to Outlook 2007 and functioning properly.
There is another procedure to add additional email programs. And that is
accomplished with the Outlook Connection.
Research This: Use a POP3 server to add your Windows Live Hotmail account to
Microsoft Outlook.
Also This: Microsoft Office Outlook Connector 12.1
Please define: NNTP. What does that stand for?
N. Miller
> "N. Miller" wrote:
>> On Sun, 18 Jan 2009 23:52:03 -0800, Liontamer wrote:
>>> You can find out How to Use a POP3 server to add your Windows Live Hotmail
>>> account to Microsoft Outlook at:
>>> http://co104w.col104.mail.live.com/mail/PrintShell.aspx?type=message&cpids=4a90ba84-...
>> Actually, I can't. That just takes me to the Hotmail login page.
>>
>> Moreover, this is not a continuation of a previous thread, this is a wholly
>> new thread. You really should do some research on NNTP service, and how
>> threading therein works.
<snip>
> Research This: Use a POP3 server to add your Windows Live Hotmail account to
> Microsoft Outlook.
I don't have to. An end user can't use a POP3 server to add anything to
anything. An end user can only use a POP3 client to access a POP3 server. At
this time, Windows Live has not turned on the Hotmail POP3 servers for U.S.
subscribers, so I still get errors trying to access the Hotmail POP3 server.
> Also This: Microsoft Office Outlook Connector 12.1
Outlook Connector has nothing to do with POP3 access. It just provides
HTTPMail access, I believe using DeltaSync, for MS Outlook users. HTTPMail
!= POP3.
> Please define: NNTP. What does that stand for?
Network News Transfer Protocol. It is the method used to propagate news
articles on the server, 'msnews.microsoft.com', which is how I access these
groups. I use an NNTP client called, "40tude Dialog". MS clients capable of
accessing these groups are:
MS Outlook Express
Windows Mail
Windows Live Mail
NNTP is the underlying protocol of the Usenet:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usenet
The fact that MS has cobbled up some quirky, Rube Goldberg device to allow
HTTP client (web browser) users to access their NNTP groups does not alter
the fact that the cleanest way to access the groups is by using a proper
NNTP client. And, in Usenet service, in order to "continue" a thread, one
must post a followup article in the original thread, not start a new thread
with a new article.
Liontamer
somebody else with more experience will notice this discussion thread an help
you out. However, thank you for your input.
Liontamer
To use a POP3 server to add your Windows Live Hotmail account to Microsoft
Outlook:
1. In Outlook, click the Tools menu, and then click E-mail Accounts.
2. Click Add a new e-mail account, and then click Next.
3. Click POP3, and then click Next.
4. Enter the following information:
• Under User Information, type your name and your Windows Live Hotmail
e-mail address.
• Under Server Information, in the Incoming mail server (POP3) box, type
pop3.live.com.
• Under Server Information, in the Outgoing mail server (SMTP) box, type
smtp.live.com.
• Under Logon Information, in the User Name box, type your full Windows Live
Hotmail e-mail address.
• In the Password box, type the password for your Windows Live Hotmail
e-mail address.
• Clear the Remember password check box unless you're the only person with
access to the computer. Make sure that the Log on using Secure Password
Authentication (SPA) check box isn't selected.
5. Click More settings.
6. On the Outgoing Server tab, make sure that the My outgoing server (SMTP)
requires authentication and Use same settings as my incoming mail server
options are selected.
7. On the Advanced tab, under Server Port Numbers, enter the following
information, and then click OK:
• In the Incoming server (POP3) box, type 995.
• In the Outgoing server (SMTP) box, type 25.
• Under both Incoming server (POP3) and Outgoing server (SMTP), select the
This server requires an encrypted connection (SSL) check box.
8. Click Next, and then click Finish.
N. Miller
> Try these instructions ...
The first thing that needs to happen is that Windows Live has to turn on
POP3 access to Hotmail. Until that happens (I am told some time in
February), I will get errors.
I have set up numerous POP3 accounts, and IMAP accounts. I do know what to
do. I have a program running on a computer in my garage, a mail server
called, "Mercury/32". It polls 11 POP3 accounts from my ISP, and two others;
downloads the email, and holds it locally for either POP3 access (another
user in the household), or IMAP4 access (my own computer).
Liontamer
The Verizon Online DSL Tech Support people I've been talking to seem to
pretend to know what to do, but when things get to complacated they
disconnect from you. Which throws you back to square one. Frustrating,
obnoxious behavior on their parts.
However, the answer to my problem regarding connecting Outlook 2007 and my
Windows Live Hotmail account seems to be with setting the incoming and
outgoing servers during the config process. I finally got the outgoing
right. But--and can you believe this--Verizon Online DSL Tech Support does
not know what to advise for setting the incoming server properly. They just
disconnect from the call. They do not have the right training. Some tech
support people I spoke to want to throw the blame onto MSN. Meanwhile,
Verizon Online DSL with MSN is the service which gives me my internet
service. Their behavior puts you back to square one in your quest for
answers. It's a major abuse against their customers.
N. Miller
> Norman, I am still working on thing.
>
> The Verizon Online DSL Tech Support people I've been talking to seem to
> pretend to know what to do, but when things get to complacated they
> disconnect from you. Which throws you back to square one. Frustrating,
> obnoxious behavior on their parts.
>
> However, the answer to my problem regarding connecting Outlook 2007 and my
> Windows Live Hotmail account seems to be with setting the incoming and
> outgoing servers during the config process. I finally got the outgoing
> right. But--and can you believe this--Verizon Online DSL Tech Support does
> not know what to advise for setting the incoming server properly. They just
> disconnect from the call. They do not have the right training. Some tech
> support people I spoke to want to throw the blame onto MSN. Meanwhile,
> Verizon Online DSL with MSN is the service which gives me my internet
> service. Their behavior puts you back to square one in your quest for
> answers. It's a major abuse against their customers.
Verizon DSL + MSN has more in common with Qwest DSL + MSN than it does with
Windows Live Hotmail. You'll have to check out what Earle Horton and
...winston have posted because they seem more familiar with the ISP + MSN
service than anybody else.
For my purposes, I have four free Windows Live Hotmail accounts: Two in the
'hotmail.com' domain, and one each in the 'live.com' and 'msn.com' domains.
Windows Live has already turned on free POP3 access in a short list of
foreign countries; but not in the U.S. until some time next month.