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TCav

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Jan 16, 2006, 10:57:02 PM1/16/06
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How about a junk e-mail feature that forwards the junk messages to the abuse
mailbox of the provider for the ip address of the sender?

I do it now with a series of rules that I've created by examining the
message header in the message options, and using the WHOIS from Network
Solutions, et. al., but it's tedious gathering all the information. And I
have A LOT of rules.

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Diane Poremsky [MVP]

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Jan 17, 2006, 12:45:10 AM1/17/06
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Reporting spam tends to be more bother than it's worth and many isps don't
act on abuse reports.

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Brian Tillman

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Jan 17, 2006, 9:20:00 AM1/17/06
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TCav <TC...@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:

> How about a junk e-mail feature that forwards the junk messages to
> the abuse mailbox of the provider for the ip address of the sender?

Bad idea. It would mean possibly forwarding non-junk, since no junk mail
filter is ever 100% accurate. Moreover, Outlook doesn't store messages in
their raw format, so you may not properly include the internet headers
required to trace the junk.
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TCav

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Jan 18, 2006, 5:57:02 AM1/18/06
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I understand that many ISPs don't enforce their own Acceptable Use Policies,
but as I've seen, some do. And if an ISP has an abuse mailbox, why not use it?

TCav

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Jan 18, 2006, 6:13:02 AM1/18/06
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Actually, the "forward message to people or distibution list as an
attachment" includes the internet message header. The only problem is when a
message containing a message as an attachment is opened by many Unix e-mail
client programs, the attached message, including the message header, is
distorted.

And I trust that EVERY message I receive from ad360.com, adzines.com,
bonustree.com, easywinning.com, finestoffers.com, giantrewards.com, and many
others, are, in fact, spam.

And besides, if I receive an e-mail message in a language I don't
understand, doesn't that constitute spam even if it weren't trying to sell me
something if I could read it?

TCav

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Jan 18, 2006, 6:21:02 AM1/18/06
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And if Outlook did it automatically, reporting spam wouldn't be any bother
for me. In fact, it would be much less bother than it is right now.

And who knows? Maybe it'll cut down on spam.

Birger Sørensen

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Oct 22, 2006, 5:52:01 AM10/22/06
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NOT reporting spam is helping spammers - by hiding the size of the problem
and allowing spammers to invade you privacy, violate your rights, and waste
YOUR time and money.

Spamcop - http://www.spamcop.net - makes reporting easy and anonymous. And
there are others like it.

All it requires is, that your email program can either forward or include
ALL ORIGINAL HEADERS in a reply.

For some reason, Outlook (my version is 2000) forwards all headers - except
the "Recieved" lines, that are the one's telling where the email originates -
and this "feature" makes the rest of it useless - for the purpose of
reporting spam, at least.
Replying gives the usual Subject, To and from - also very useless in terms
of reporting spam.

Those of us, that does not accept, that spammers are allowed to waste our
time, violate our rights and invade our privacy, are in some ways treated as
if WE are the one's being criminals.
Reporting violations, is made as difficult as possible.
Even by creators of email software, it seems...


The Internet needs to change policy, and actually adhere to the TOS and TOC
set up by ISPs.
Spammers need to be made to pay the damage they are doing, and the cost they
put on others. And once caught, they should not be allowed online again,
until they have.
Warnings and closing of accounts, have no effect - the spammer probably
already have another account somewhere - often at the same ISP - that does
not bother to make sure, the one's they allow access to the 'net, are people
they can trust - and the rest of the 'net is paying the price. Some ISP's
don't care where the money they make are stolen, as long as they make them.
I am VERY TIRED of paying other people's advertising.

Pretending the problem doesn't exist, doesn't make it go away - it will only
increase it. And it will eventually ruin the internet, if not taken care of.


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Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]

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Oct 22, 2006, 7:09:27 PM10/22/06
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Spend your time shouting into the wind all you want. It will do little or no good as spammers routinely ignore ISPs and others and just present a moving target. I have spam filtering enabled at my mail server and on my client so I seldom get any spam. Spam that does make it through is trapped by Outlook and SpamBayes.

The time it takes to compose a complaint, in my household, is better spent on activities that amuse, inform or otherwise add to my life.

Reporting spammers is not among those items.

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Post all replies to the group to keep the discussion intact. All
unsolicited mail sent to my personal account will be deleted without
reading.

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Birger Sørensen

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Oct 23, 2006, 8:10:02 AM10/23/06
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I have yet to see a filter that will effectively filter garbage from my
business email.
You'll rather spend the time with the family - and so would I.
Therefore, the options in Outlook, that could make reporting spam easier,
and give victims of spammers more time to spend with their family, are not
available?
Special kind of logic?

I may be shouting into the wind. I don't have a choise. Either I report
spam, or I loose business.
Where do I send the bill?

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Pat Willener

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Oct 24, 2006, 1:58:08 AM10/24/06
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You can use a 3rd-party tool like http://www.olspamcop.org/ to easily
and quickly forward your spam messages with full headers to Spamcop.

Birger Sørensen

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Oct 24, 2006, 9:37:02 AM10/24/06
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Found it yesterday, in another topic I think.
Insatlled - and it's working beautyfully... ;>)

Thx.

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