How to lock handwritten notation to picture?

[Dean]

I am using Microsoft OneNote, and for the most part find it very valuable.

One question is this though... with the Screen Capture utility, I use it for
reviewing projects with development team and users, and the easiest thing is
to capture a section of the screen, then using a table jot a note onto the
picture. Works great until you want to move the picture, or type more before
the picture - it moves, but the handwriting does not. Is there a way to
"group" them?

I find that the handwritten notes are hard to move if they are over other
objects, so it is quite clumsy.

[Andrew Watt [MVP - InfoPath]]

Dean,

This should work. It's simple to do but not obvious.

Assume you have a note container with some text plus an image.

1. Click on the note container to select it. It should be outlined in
a dashed line
2. Hold down the Control key
3. Keeping the Control key depressed drag diagonally across the image.
If you miss part of the image in the drag it won't be selected. If
it's selected successfully it will be outlined in a dashed grey line.
4. Release the Control key
5. Move the mouse over either the image or the note container. A four
headed cursor appears
6. Drag the image and note container together to the desired new
position

Andrew Watt
MVP - InfoPath

[Shelton@discussions.microsoft.com John Shelton]

To the MS people, I agree. This is one of the biggest difficulties for my
work in OneNote. I hope for improvements in future versions.

[JFarmer]

Using control to move two containers together works. However, if one makes a
lot of handwritten notes with circles , arrows ...., it get quite confusing
to pick the one you want.
Is there no way to group items so they become one. This is a common feature
in drawing software.

Thanks

[Erik Gulbrandsen]

A couple of things...

1. you could screen clip and paste it on a new page--I do this sometimes
2. you could lasso tool (by far the best, as it is very sensitive and
very specific)
3. CTRL-A, then, while holding CTRL, hit the stuff you don't want selected.

good luck...

erik

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[JFarmer]

Thanks for the advice, however either the lasso or group page cut and paste
have the same result. The containers are still there on the new page.
The problem is that if one make a large page with pictures, text, ink, all
linked through arrows for instance, if one clip or insert at the wrong place
the whole page is rearranged, highlight is not highlighting anything etc...

What would be nice is what I have on graphic programs. Select all, unselect
a few, group. Now I could start inking or inserting on top without making a
mess.

JF

[Erik Gulbrandsen]

JFarmer wrote:
> Thanks for the advice, however either the lasso or group page cut and paste
> have the same result. The containers are still there on the new page.
> The problem is that if one make a large page with pictures, text, ink, all
> linked through arrows for instance, if one clip or insert at the wrong place
> the whole page is rearranged, highlight is not highlighting anything etc...
>
> What would be nice is what I have on graphic programs. Select all, unselect
> a few, group. Now I could start inking or inserting on top without making a
> mess.
>
> JF
>
> "Erik Gulbrandsen" wrote:
>
>> JFarmer wrote:
>>> Using control to move two containers together works. However, if one makes a
>>> lot of handwritten notes with circles , arrows ...., it get quite confusing
>>> to pick the one you want.
>>> Is there no way to group items so they become one. This is a common feature
>>> in drawing software.
>>>
>>> Thanks

Oh, I see what you are saying, now. Ya, if you have lots of stuff that
is all interconnected, the lasso tool will be quite a challenge as well.

Here is a little workaround...

Go to the end of your document, and insert some space using the insert
space tool. Now, paste the items that you wish to paste. Upon doing
this, select it and drag it to the location that you want it to reside.
It shouldn't distort or display any of your inking.

Another thing you can do is to get a good mockup, then, screencapture it
and paste it. Then, those items that you have inked are "set in stone".

lemme know if this helps any...

[Al Franke]

I wholeheartedly second that motion! Grouping is a very basic operation that
should be a TOP priority for the next release. I can't tell you how many
times I've been infuriated by pasting something on a page, only to see my
handwritten figures explode into a jumble of misplaced fragments. Another
option would to add layers that are insulated from one another.

While you're at it, please also give us the ability to crop pasted images!

[Rainald Taesler]

Al Franke schrieb:

> I wholeheartedly second that motion! Grouping is a very basic
> operation that should be a TOP priority for the next release. I
> can't tell you how many times I've been infuriated by pasting
> something on a page, only to see my handwritten figures explode
> into a jumble of misplaced fragments. Another option would to add
> layers that are insulated from one another.

Although I can not see which posting you are referring too (no longer
shownavailblein the MS Newsgroup server), I'm with you as far as
grouping/anchoring is concerned.
IMHO the most important shortcoming of the current version.

In order to be heard you may post this as a suggestion for the next
version in "Connect", the place for submitting
suggestions and bug reports to the developers team:
http://connect.microsoft.com/onenote/

When done, pls drop a note with the URL in here so that we can jump in
and vote for your suggestion.

> While you're at it, please also give us the ability to crop pasted
> images!

A feature for "cropping" would belong into the category "nice to have",
but it's not an important issue IMHO.

It's easy enough to do that prior to pasting as well as thereafter.
Any graphics applications can be used for that. Although having
PhotoShop et. al., my favorite in so far is the fantastic freeware tool
IrfanView[1]
- copy to the clipboard, Ctrl+C;
- open IrfanView (if not yet open, I almost have it open minimized);
- paste the image, Ctrl+V / Shift+Ins ;
- mark the wanted area;
- crop selection - Ctrl+Y;
- possibly resize the image - Ctrl+R
- copy to the clipboard, Ctrl+C
- change to ON and paste the image.

HTH
Rainald
[1] www.irfanview.com