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Kriya

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Dec 13, 2004, 11:53:07 AM12/13/04
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How do I get my typing to sit ON a ruled line, not above or below it? And
since Microsoft invented this product and charge people to buy it, shouldn't
they be answering it themselves instead of farming it out to users who might
just have happened to figure out the answer?

Chris H.

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Dec 13, 2004, 1:26:58 PM12/13/04
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Public newsgroups are for peer support, Kriya. Now, a little more
information would be helpful. Are you speaking of using a lined "paper" in
OneNote, like those available among the Stationery items, or are you talking
about creating an Underlined (toolbar button) after typing? Are you on a
desktop/laptop or a Tablet PC?
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Kieseyhow

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Dec 16, 2004, 9:31:04 AM12/16/04
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This would involve highly complex CSS2-type character and line spacing
that is not even available as an automatic feature in any software I have
seen as yet. I believe the lines are simply a graphical overlay and not an
actual image. It could be possible to have the lines fit the text far more
than having the text fit the lines. But, the lines would end up being
different for each text box on the page. This is a complex progamming task
that you have requested for automatically matching the text to the lines of
the page. Such formatting metrics are handled by the font files themselves
statically for each pitch and line height. It would produce varying results
based upon various video drivers and GUI font settings in any case.

I tried to get lines of text to match lines from a background image of ruled
paper in both Word, and on a webpage....
In Word it took about a hundred trips into the paragraph and character
kerning settings in Word. And in Frontpage an even LONGER time fiddling with
complex CSS style settings. In the end I had to use the Microsoft script
editor to get the webpage right, only to discover, that if I printed it, it
didn;t work on some printers, and if I changed the screen resolution or the
font size, it didn't work at all! and ... not worth it, unless you was
getting paid very much for this tiring and frustrating task.

However, I have a workaround for you. type in your text, then select
everything and underline it with the toolbar, you will have to use the
character code alt+0160 instead of the spacebar though to get an underline
for the whitespace in Onenote as it will not underline spaces. Then draw a
red line down the left side; it is fiddly, but works quit well if you really
need it .... *grins* I am assuming you would only go through all this
effort if you were going to print it out for something fancy? The idea
behind Onenote, is making notes, not creating presentations. I strongly
suggest you use Word, or Microsoft Publisher (excellent program) for such
eyecandy. Good luck ! :)

Kriya

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Dec 23, 2004, 1:07:01 AM12/23/04
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Sorry it took so long for me to read your reply. After I posted my question
I took another look at an ad or something for OneNote and realized that even
in their demonstration the typing doesn't fit on the line. What you type
sort of floats in front of the lined paper, it's not fixed to it. The second
person to reply to my question said the same thing more technically. Writing
would only appear on the line if you were using a digital pen.

Kriya

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Dec 23, 2004, 1:13:02 AM12/23/04
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Sorry it took so long to read your reply. I figured out after I posted my
question that what you type "floats" in front of the lines, it's not fixed to
it. I appreciate your effort to create your own lined paper. I've done
wacky time consuming things like that - once is enough! I think using a
digital pen is the only way to get input on the lines.

Chris H.

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Dec 23, 2004, 12:13:30 PM12/23/04
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Of course, unless you have a specific requirement for the "lined" paper
template, you don't need to use it. Use a blank, if you want. It would be
the same as preparing a letter in Word.

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SandyDee

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Mar 20, 2005, 10:41:03 PM3/20/05
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I'd like to ask another typing related question. - When I type in OneNote, it
ends up putting the typing - text into a shaded box, that stays grey. I'd
like to have my complete OneNote page be white. How can i accomplish this?
Thank you!

Ben M. Schorr - MVP Outlook/OneNote

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Mar 21, 2005, 12:34:15 AM3/21/05
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"=?Utf-8?B?U2FuZHlEZWU=?=" <Sand...@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
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> 'd like to ask another typing related question. - When I type in
> OneNote, it ends up putting the typing - text into a shaded box, that
> stays grey. I'd like to have my complete OneNote page be white. How
> can i accomplish this? Thank you!
>

Check Tools | Options. You can hide the note containers and adjust the
darkness as well.

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James Gockel

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Mar 21, 2005, 1:17:36 AM3/21/05
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Yeah, thats funny, I've truned off my note containers, but they're still
there...
I think a fix is in order.
-James

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Kathy J

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Mar 21, 2005, 10:42:07 AM3/21/05
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James,
Close OneNote and re-open it. The containers should go away.
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James Gockel

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Mar 22, 2005, 4:12:14 PM3/22/05
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nope
they're still there.
-James
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Russkin

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Jan 28, 2006, 2:25:15 AM1/28/06
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I'm not sure if there's a newer version of OneNote since this thread
originated, but there's definitely a relationship between typed text and the
stationary lines in that the text cursor snaps to the nearest line when you
click into a document. The first disconcerting behavior is that, after
tabbing into the body from the page title, the cursor aligns to the top of a
rule rather than sitting on the bottom line of a rule. This probably seems
strange to people who expect to write on the bottom line of a rule (i.e.
pretty much everyone in the world).

At the default OneNote font and point size (Verdana 10 pt), the default
stationery very neatly fits two lines of typed text into a single rule.
Again, a strange behavior since people would expect the carriage return to
put them at the bottom line of the next rule.

If you don't mind typing in large text, you can set the point size to 20
(using Verdana in the default stationery) and get one typed line of text per
rule.

Erik Sojka (MVP)

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Jan 28, 2006, 11:55:43 AM1/28/06
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It should be noted that the rule lines are more intended to help those on
a Tablet PC write more clearly (which in turn helps with handwriting
accuracy). The least confusing thing to do if you onl use the keyboard
in OneNote is to turn off the lines altogether (View | Rule Lines | None)

There is no newer version of OneNote released since this thread started,
BTW.

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Ben M. Schorr - MVP

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Jan 29, 2006, 12:58:24 AM1/29/06
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...which is exactly what I do on pages where I'm just going to type.


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Johan Berander

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Dec 5, 2006, 4:55:01 PM12/5/06
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When I study I often use typed notes from elder classes to follow lectures.
But since I have a Tablet PC I mostly use my digital pen for my own
additional notes and figures.

This is why I'd really like the typed tex to be aligned to the lines - to
make my further handwritten notes fit better into the old notes.

I do understand the technical difficulties involved but it shouldn't hav
ebeen to hard to make at least one default font fit one or two of the
available line or square formats.

Maybe it's eyecandy but it'd really make my eyes a LOT happier :)

//Johan, medical student

"Ben M. Schorr - MVP" skrev:

> ....which is exactly what I do on pages where I'm just going to type.

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