Re: MyGeneration announces dOOdads (a .NET Architecture similiar to Object Spaces)
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that's no excuse to behave like a contemptuous prig. The fact that you
put "[MVP]" next to your handle says it all. I wonder if you behave
like this around people in the real world? If you do you won't make
many freinds. You can make a point or refute an argument without
calling people names and insulting thier intellegence.
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Thomas Tomiczek [MVP]
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POlease realize one thing:
"Calling people names" can be pointing out reality.
If I say Mr George W. Bush is of average intelligence, I am pointing out
reality.
I know a lot of people have issues with reality.
An idiot IS an idiot.
Calling him one does the world a favour.
It is NOT an insult. It is an appropriate term.
A broken car is a broken car.
Doing something stupid IS doing something stupid.
> I have no doubt that you are the computer genius you claim to be, but
> that's no excuse to behave like a contemptuous prig. The fact that you
There is no excuse because tehre is no excuse needed for pointing out
reality.
Are you americaqn? Just asking, because the US citizens seem to be SO
interested in being friendly that they do not realize it is NOT ok to rape
another country if you jsut behave friendly (as an example). Just being
friendy does not make you not an idiot if you are one, and does not make
your idiotic behavior (should you have it) non-idiotic.
Interesting enough this, to an absurdly comic degree, is something I have
only ever experienced with people raised in the United States - being
totally incompetend abut assuming everything is ok as long as you are
friendly.
I prefer to tell someone something is stupid when it IS stupid.
And, finally, someone once told me:
"The best way not to be called an idiot is not to behave like one".
Btw:
>The fact that you
> put "[MVP]" next to your handle says it all.
The "all" being that I have been asked to do so - by a Microsoft Employee.
Yeah, very revealing, in fact.
If I would call your statement idiotic, would this be an insult? hardly, as
it was given without any thought. and mental extercise and background
knowledge.
One thing you guys have to realize is this:
An error is an error, regardless on whether you try your best or are
friendly. An error STILL is an error.
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Regards
Thomas Tomiczek
THONA Software & Consulting Ltd.
(Microsoft MVP C#/.NET)
(CTO PowerNodes Ltd.)
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Dan Miser
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> > put "[MVP]" next to your handle says it all.
>
> The "all" being that I have been asked to do so - by a Microsoft Employee.
>
onto the team?
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Dan Miser
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Mike
cranking out Gentle.NET business objects for that very popular Object
Persistance Framework. Now let me see ... MyGeneration is free,
Gentle.NET is free, hum .... Oh, by the way, tonight (May 21st)
MyGeneration will hit its 10,000th download, that's right 10,000
downloads, and that's basically in 4 months.
Mike Griffin (A proud American)
http://www.mygenerationsoftware.com
Come on Tom, you know you love our little product !!!! Just admit it
then you can begin the healing process.
Thomas Tomiczek [MVP]
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> Can't we all just get along? By the way, MyGeneration is going to be
> cranking out Gentle.NET business objects for that very popular Object
> Persistance Framework. Now let me see ... MyGeneration is free,
> Gentle.NET is free, hum .... Oh, by the way, tonight (May 21st)
> MyGeneration will hit its 10,000th download, that's right 10,000
> downloads, and that's basically in 4 months.
Nice to see that mediocre products are often used.
> Mike Griffin (A proud American)
What exactly are you proud of?
* Waging agressive wars against other countries without any justification?
* Having the most shitty democracy at the moment of any other "civilized
country", even without a duly elected president?
* Commiting organized war crimes?
Yeah, right.
You can be proud.
The same pride my german acestors felt when Hitler started his little
crazyness.
Nothing against americans, but saying syou are proud of it is like saying
you are proud of being lobotomized.
> http://www.mygenerationsoftware.com
>
> Come on Tom, you know you love our little product !!!! Just admit it
> then you can begin the healing process.
Nothign against toddlers, you know. It is anifty primitive code generator
that lacks about any interesting feature that I use regularly.
Frans Bouma [C# MVP]
> Can't we all just get along? By the way, MyGeneration is going to be
> cranking out Gentle.NET business objects for that very popular Object
> Persistance Framework. Now let me see ... MyGeneration is free,
> Gentle.NET is free, hum .... Oh, by the way, tonight (May 21st)
> MyGeneration will hit its 10,000th download, that's right 10,000
> downloads, and that's basically in 4 months.
So? LLBLGen 1.x had 50,000+ in 6 months
But bragging aside, the price of the tool isn't important, really. If you
have 3 developer teams running on a single application, the price of a
devtool is not what's important, what is is support, robustness and usability.
I said this before and I'll repeat it here: to be able to give support that
actually is good enough, you have to spend a lot of time on support and
providing content/tools for your customers. During that time yuo can't work
for an employer, so you have to make money elsewhere. Unless you have a big
bag of gold sitting next to your desk, you have to sell something, otherwise
support will drop. Because your tool and the gentle.net tool are free, how
will a dev-team get reliable support from you if you have to work for your
money and you therefore don't have time for support?
> Mike Griffin (A proud American)
hehe :) what does 'being a proud american' have to do with your tool?
FB
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Daisy
> Nice to see that mediocre products are often used.
>
> > Mike Griffin (A proud American)
>
> What exactly are you proud of?
Nice to see these groups being used for what they where intended, eh?
Lay off it, there's enough conflict elsewhere at the mo, not worth having it
in here!!
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Daisy The Cow
Theo Albers
>
> The same pride my german acestors felt when Hitler started his little
> crazyness.
>
Thomas, when you emphasize things, you start writing capital letters, which
reminds me of shouting. You almost always use the word "idiotic" in a
message. You start complaining about grammar when somebody makes a mistake.
I wonder why Microsoft wants you to wear the "most valuable professional"
attribute:
"...
The MVP Award is the way Microsoft recognizes those participants who have
made a highly positive impact in the technical and product communities they
participate in
..."
from http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=fh;EN-US;mvpfaqs:
I'm sorry that I'm off topic here, but you offend people with your
statements. Please at least behave like a professional.
- Theo
Mike
> hehe :) what does 'being a proud american' have to do with your tool?
Nothing, it was just bait, you're right about the support issue, we do
spend some time on it, but it's kind of fun, we actually have very few
bug reports, however, lots of enhancements requests, which we use to
drive our product. So our users on the forums are in large part
controlling the roadmap. I have a full time job besides, and when the
kids go to bed I work till say midnight or later on it, so far we are
able to handle it, we are opening up a true template library so users
will be able to support each other, in fact, on the forums the users
often help each other before we jump in. You do bring up good points
though.
A customer who uses a free product is greatful, a customer that pays
for a product is angry, there is some truth in that, and it has worked
to our favor.
Frans Bouma [C# MVP]
> A customer who uses a free product is greatful, a customer that pays
> for a product is angry, there is some truth in that, and it has worked
> to our favor.
No, a customer who paid too much for the product is angry. People who paid
for software which gives them what they expected and more are not angry but
happy.
FB
james
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Rob Nicholson
it
> in here!!
Well said!