Is ObjectSpaces still available in VS2005 CTP May?

[David Vásquez]

Hi,

I still didn't get the recently released CTP May of VS2005, I expect to
get it on the following weeks (hopefully not to late :) however, I can't
wait to make some questions that came up due to the recently news from
Microsoft about OS+Longhorn, here they come:

1. Is ObjectSpaces still available in this release CTP May as updated
assemblies (new functionality/fixed bugs) or even the old ones from CTP
Marz?

2. If it is not available, have anyone tried to get it running on VS2005
May by using the assemblies from VS2005 Marz?

3. Is there any third-party comercial/open source OR-Mapper that has
proven to be running on VS2005 May (i.e. on .NET 2.0) that you would
recommend? Is there anyone closer to OS architecture e.g. requires
bussiness entities, uses xml mapping files, has a kind of Manager to
track changes and handle concurrency, has a strucutre like the ObjectSet
containing collections of Bussiness Entities?

I will appreciate very much your feedback on this points, thanks in
advance,

David

[Frans Bouma [C# MVP]]

David Vásquez wrote:
> 1. Is ObjectSpaces still available in this release CTP May as updated
> assemblies (new functionality/fixed bugs) or even the old ones from CTP
> Marz?

I would be surprised, but even if it is shipped with the CTP may release,
what would you want to do with it? It's tech that can't be used in production
environments nor is there any future support for teh current codebase.

> 3. Is there any third-party comercial/open source OR-Mapper that has
> proven to be running on VS2005 May (i.e. on .NET 2.0) that you would
> recommend? Is there anyone closer to OS architecture e.g. requires
> bussiness entities, uses xml mapping files, has a kind of Manager to
> track changes and handle concurrency, has a strucutre like the ObjectSet
> containing collections of Bussiness Entities?

ANy mapper handles changes and concurrency, has structures which contain
collections of business objects. I'm not sure about the .NET 2.0 demand, our
generated code works on .NET 2.0, but it is not optimized for it yet, as .NET
2.0 is perhaps a year away.

What's the importance of the xml mapping file? It's slow to process and
changes made to it by hand are error prone and often require the alternation
of classes anyway.

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[David Vásquez]

> David Vásquez wrote:
> > 1. Is ObjectSpaces still available in this release CTP May as updated
> > assemblies (new functionality/fixed bugs) or even the old ones from CTP
> > Marz?
>
> I would be surprised, but even if it is shipped with the CTP may release,
> what would you want to do with it? It's tech that can't be used in production
> environments nor is there any future support for teh current codebase.

Only curiosity, does anybody know if OS is still present in CTP May?

> > 3. Is there any third-party comercial/open source OR-Mapper that has
> > proven to be running on VS2005 May (i.e. on .NET 2.0) that you would
> > recommend? Is there anyone closer to OS architecture e.g. requires
> > bussiness entities, uses xml mapping files, has a kind of Manager to
> > track changes and handle concurrency, has a strucutre like the ObjectSet
> > containing collections of Bussiness Entities?
>
> ANy mapper handles changes and concurrency, has structures which contain
> collections of business objects. I'm not sure about the .NET 2.0 demand, our
> generated code works on .NET 2.0, but it is not optimized for it yet, as .NET
> 2.0 is perhaps a year away.
>
> What's the importance of the xml mapping file? It's slow to process and
> changes made to it by hand are error prone and often require the alternation
> of classes anyway.

It is only a matter of company policies, we prefer to use this technique instead of
code generation. Is there any ORMapper working with this technique?

[Wolfgang Al]

ObjectSpaces is no longer part of the .NET framework in the CTP May release.
The documentation file ("System.Data.ObjectSpaces.dll.xml") is (for some odd
reason), but the assembly ("System.Data.ObjectSpaces") is not. Watch Andrew
Conrad's weblog (http://weblogs.asp.net/aconrad) for any new announcements
to be made about ObjectSpaces.

Hope this helps,

Wolfgang

[David Vásquez]

Wolfgang Al wrote:

Thanks for the info., however:, have anyone tried to get OS running on VS2005

May by using the assemblies from VS2005 Marz?

Is there any third-party comercial/open source OR-Mapper that has proven to be

running on VS2005 May (i.e. on .NET 2.0) that you would

recommend? Is there anyone closer to the OS architecture (xml mapping files)?

[Alvaro Lozano]

Hi David
I'm using the March preview and is working fine, at least in my firsts
testings, no so complex.

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[Thomas Tomiczek [MVP]]

We not. I have reports we DO run iunter 2.0 (not hard, really), but we do
not have a preview out YET.

Planned for next month, if VS:nET does not crash too often: branch the
EntityBroker over into a 2005 tree and get it a little more integrated
into - generics.

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THONA Software & Consulting Ltd.
(Microsoft MVP C#/.NET)
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