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MDCovney

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Mar 30, 2005, 9:23:08 PM3/30/05
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I don't think it's illegal, but is it unethical to copy the list of names
that appear in the To window of an e-mail one receives to his address book
for future use?

Same question for other cultures, countries... for example, is there a
country or culture where the above is considered unethical?

Thanks.


Michael Jennings

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Apr 2, 2005, 11:49:10 PM4/2/05
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If something makes you feel guilty, it probably isn't ethical according
to your conscience. You can silence your conscience - make it give up -
by living a life of vile lies, but not by appealing to authority, then
telling
your conscience that, according to authority, your conscience is wrong.

If I'm right about that, and think pasting lists is OK, then
the question is, why do you suppose it might be unethical?

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MDCovney

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Apr 3, 2005, 7:57:42 PM4/3/05
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Thanks for the feedback. You make a good point and raise all sorts of other
interesting questions/issues but that's not what I had in mind. By the
(unfortunate) way I posed my question, I can certainly understand your take
on my situation.

My original post wasn't clear. There are no serious issues at stake
here---it's simply a question of internet etiquette, not ethics.

I should have asked: "Is it bad etiquette to copy the other names from an
e-mail and use for your own purpose(s)?"
I've already done so and would certainly do so again (feeling absolutely no
guilt at all) except perhaps if it is widely viewed as bad etiquette. If
someone could just explain why doing so might be harmful to someone I would
certainly consider changing my behavior / views on the matter.

And why would I think that it might be bad etiquette? Simply because the
person whose e-mail I copied the names from discovered that I had done so
and complained to me. Unfortunately, he did not (could not?) say
specifically why he thought it was wrong of me to do so, he just said it was
wrong, "intolerable" was the word he used. A complaint without whys and
wherefores does nothing to change my opinion but, open-minded adult that I
am, does make me wonder if I'm missing something.

Any further thoughts? Thanks.

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Michael Jennings

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Apr 4, 2005, 10:24:09 AM4/4/05
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Newsgroups are harvested for email addresses.
The Swen ("news" spelled backwards) virus was sent to addresses
harvested from newsgroups. You are posting with what seems to be
a valid (rather than munged) email address. You could be victimized.

You spammed his friends? He confronted you.
http://www.sciam.com/article.cfm?chanID=sa006&colID=1&articleID=000F3A4B-BF70-1238-BF7083414B7FFE9F"MDCovney" <mdco...@optonline.net> wrote in messagenews:6q%3e.16156$1g1....@fe10.lga...> Thanks for the feedback. You make a good point and raise all sorts ofother interesting questions/issues but that's not what I had in mind. Bythe (unfortunate) way I posed my question, I can certainly understand yourtake on my situation.>> My original post wasn't clear. There are no serious issues at stakehere---it's simply a question of internet etiquette, not ethics.>> I should have asked: "Is it bad etiquette to copy the other names from ane-mail and use for your own purpose(s)?"> I've already done so and would certainly do so again (feeling absolutelyno guilt at all) except perhaps if it is widely viewed as bad etiquette. Ifsomeone could just explain why doing so might be harmful to someone I wouldcertainly consider changing my behavior / views on the matter.>> And why would I think that it might be bad etiquette? Simply because theperson whose e-mail I copied the names from discovered that I had done soand complained to me. Unfortunately, he did not (could not?) sayspecifically why he thought it was wrong of me to do so, he just said it waswrong, "intolerable" was the word he used. A complaint without whys andwherefores does nothing to change my opinion but, open-minded adult that Iam, does make me wonder if I'm missing something.>> Any further thoughts? Thanks.>> "Michael Jennings" <nnej...@epacsten.moc> wrote in messagenews:um2IxhA...@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...>> If something makes you feel guilty, it probably isn't ethical according>> to your conscience. You can silence your conscience - make it give up ->> by living a life of vile lies, but not by appealing to authority, thentelling>> your conscience that, according to authority, your conscience is wrong.>>>> If I'm right about that, and think pasting lists is OK, then>> the question is, why do you suppose it might be unethical?>>>> "MDCovney" <mdco...@optonline.net> wrote in messagenews:jaJ2e.9993$Np3....@fe12.lga...>>> I don't think it's illegal, but is it unethical to copy the list ofnames that appear in the To window of an e-mail one receives to his addressbook for future use?>>>>>> Same question for other cultures, countries... for example, is there acountry or culture where the above is considered unethical?>>>>>> Thanks.>>>>>>>>>

Jason Gurtz

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Apr 8, 2005, 12:32:12 PM4/8/05
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On 3/30/2005 21:23, MDCovney wrote:
> I don't think it's illegal, but is it unethical to copy the list of names
> that appear in the To window of an e-mail one receives to his address book
> for future use?

As long as that address book is used only by you then what's the
difference. You could easily just remember the address in your head...

A more serious problem, to me, is the forwarding of mail to others, whilst
preserving all the other recipient addresses in To: or Cc: headers or in
the body of the message.

~Jason

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Amedee Van Gasse

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Apr 29, 2005, 11:31:12 AM4/29/05
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MDCovney shared this with us in microsoft.public.netiquette:

> Thanks for the feedback. You make a good point and raise all sorts
> of other interesting questions/issues but that's not what I had in
> mind. By the (unfortunate) way I posed my question, I can certainly
> understand your take on my situation.
>
> My original post wasn't clear. There are no serious issues at stake
> here---it's simply a question of internet etiquette, not ethics.
>
> I should have asked: "Is it bad etiquette to copy the other names
> from an e-mail and use for your own purpose(s)?"
> I've already done so and would certainly do so again (feeling
> absolutely no guilt at all) except perhaps if it is widely viewed as
> bad etiquette. If someone could just explain why doing so might be
> harmful to someone I would certainly consider changing my behavior /
> views on the matter.
>
> And why would I think that it might be bad etiquette? Simply because
> the person whose e-mail I copied the names from discovered that I had
> done so and complained to me. Unfortunately, he did not (could not?)
> say specifically why he thought it was wrong of me to do so, he just
> said it was wrong, "intolerable" was the word he used. A complaint
> without whys and wherefores does nothing to change my opinion but,
> open-minded adult that I am, does make me wonder if I'm missing
> something.
>
> Any further thoughts? Thanks.

In Belgium, you could be in trouble. Privacy laws are very strict here.
I could ask you to be deleted from your list, and you would have to
comply within 30 days. If not, I could complain to the Privacy
Comission, and you would risk a fine.
I would have the right to do that, but IANAL...

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Amedee Van Gasse using XanaNews 1.17.4.1
If it has an "X" in the name, it must be Linux?

Jim in Arizona

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Jun 8, 2005, 6:13:52 PM6/8/05
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"Amedee Van Gasse" <nzrqrr.i...@rztebhc.or> wrote in message
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> MDCovney shared this with us in microsoft.public.netiquette:

>> I should have asked: "Is it bad etiquette to copy the other names


>> from an e-mail and use for your own purpose(s)?"

Whenever I receive a forwarded or mass-mailed message from someone I know
showing many other mail addresses within the TO or CC field, I send back a
little speech explaining how to use the BCC features of email and why.

As far as if its a good thing or bad thing, I usually feel a little sneaky
whenever I go through the entire TO list of a message I got; especially
since I'm usually looking to see who's email address I can add to my address
lists when maybe that person doesn't want me to have their address.


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