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tonyq

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Jan 2, 2004, 8:46:32 AM1/2/04
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Please can anyone explain how to use the "Sign me in
automatically" when signing into my Hotmail account. I
have tried placeing a tick in the box but nothing seems
to happen.
Regards tonyq

Tedd Riggs

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Jan 2, 2004, 9:21:20 AM1/2/04
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As a security issue, Microsoft turns off the "auto-complete" on any access
to PassPort, Hotmail and MSN mail. No need to click the auto-logon as it
will not hold. I do not know of any method around this (would make life alot
easier for me !)
Tedd

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Val - Microsoft [.NOT MVP]

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Jan 2, 2004, 10:09:58 PM1/2/04
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jdr;
 
Amazing isn't it?
 
Now it's a "security issue" <g>....funny that, like you, I never saw that "security issue"....
 
Sign in works the way it always has for the last few years......"works" some days (when it feels like it...it's snotmail after all)
 
Must have been "escalated" <bg> to a "security issue" after 911.
 
Where else can you get this kind of entertainment for free?
 

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val
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"Jack D. Russell, Sr." <jackru$$el...@notmail.com> wrote in message news:ua3CpMX0...@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
Go to your Hotmail sign-in page and fill in the username/password
portion and tick the "Sign me in auto,etc." box. Proceed to your inbox
and set it as a "Favorite" in your browser instead of the original
Hotmail sign-in page. You will only be asked to sign-in occasionally
from then on. (About every 60 days or so.) I haven't signed- in to my
Hotmail account in weeks and use it daily.

 TR> As a security issue, Microsoft turns off the "auto-complete" on any
 TR> access to PassPort, Hotmail and MSN mail.  No need to click the
 TR> auto-logon as it will not hold. I do not know of any method around
 TR> this (would make life alot easier for me !)
 TR> Tedd

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Jack

moosensquirrel

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Jan 3, 2004, 7:31:41 AM1/3/04
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I've always found this group 'entertaining'. Urgent pleading questions from MSn users with the spelling and syntax skills of preschoolers, liberal doses of mushroom fertilizer from shills who hide behind CDO or MVP's who don't use MSn. Then there's the PR wannabees, their bull is really a hoot.
The endless searches for SSL which seems to be broken by the install of MSn Exploder (version whatever) and MSn/Hotmail/Microsoft propensity to deliver 'corrupt' cookies at the drop of a hat. When you add MS's on again/off again Knowledge Base to the mix it's just more fun than a room full of monkeys at an MSn Call Centre eh.

"Jack D. Russell, Sr." <jackru$$el...@notmail.com> wrote in message news:%232naN6d...@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
Val,

MAD magazine used to be almost as good as this group, as far as "out
there" entertainment was concerned. But since the release of about MSN 7
something, it's in solid second place now. <BG> Free?? Heck, I'd pay to
read some of the more "unenlightened" pleas and solutions offered here.
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Jack


Tedd Riggs

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Jan 4, 2004, 9:39:13 AM1/4/04
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For some reason, I am missing the point of this post.
Yes there are plenty of users that English is not there natve language and
have grammer/spelling mistakes, others do not know or use the spell checker
and many posts are redirected here by CNET, ZDNET and many others. These are
almost always the ones with the anon...@discussions.microsoft.com and the
CDO Windows 2000 readers and yes, there are some very..basic questions

As far as MVP's who don't use MSn, Well considering that a large number of
them live outside of area's that have MSN, this is pretty normal. Also most
have web pages and have been conected with one ISP long before MSN was
around
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Tedd Riggs

"Jack D. Russell, Sr." <jackru$$el...@notmail.com> wrote in message

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m> I've always found this group 'entertaining'. Urgent pleading
m> questions from MSn users with the spelling and syntax skills of
m> preschoolers, liberal doses of mushroom fertilizer from shills who
m> hide behind CDO or MVP's who don't use MSn. Then there's the PR
m> wannabees, their bull is really a hoot. The endless searches for SSL
m> which seems to be broken by the install of MSn Exploder (version
m> whatever) and MSn/Hotmail/Microsoft propensity to deliver 'corrupt'
m> cookies at the drop of a hat. When you add MS's on again/off again
m> Knowledge Base to the mix it's just more fun than a room full of
m> monkeys at an MSn Call Centre eh.

--
Jack


Kuay Tim

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Jan 4, 2004, 10:34:16 AM1/4/04
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Hi Tedd,

MSN (the ISP) has changed considerably since its inception. Many early users
learned about the Internet as MSN subscribers. The MSN newsgroups (now
history) were a great place to share knowledge. These users learned how to
use Outlook Express and became acquainted with Internet Explorer among other
things. Microsoft never gave the subscribers what they asked for: a good
instant messenger, more than one POP3 mail address and some free Web space.
Microsoft never kept its promise to fix (or eliminate) Secure Password
Authentication that brought grief to most, and at times all subscribers.

Fairly early on (about 1998) Microsoft changed course from a cutting edge
Internet provider. Instead of improving their service all content was
eliminated. Using slight of hand all benefits of being a MSN subscriber were
moved to the open Web that anyone with an Internet could use. At the same
time the (dial-up) service was diminished greatly the monthly fee was
increased by $2 making it one of the most expensive ISP's. MSN subscribers
were tricked into believing they were getting more benefit from their
subscription while the opposite was true. The only standup thing
MSN/Microsoft did was the elimination of the 'bring your own access' plan.
MSN Internet Access no longer had anything of value that was not offered for
free from the MSN.com Web site.

The reason a great number of people left MSN-IA was because other ISP's
offered better service without the ruse that MSN/Microsoft had decided upon
for their own benefit. MSN-IA became a place to promote Microsoft's Internet
strategy of offering Web-based services (so far a failure) and their
attempted control of Internet commerce through MS Passport. There was also
the goal of becoming a leader in Internet advertising.

--
Tim K.
aka Kuay Tim
Lynnwood, WA
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Tedd Riggs

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Jan 4, 2004, 10:44:09 AM1/4/04
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Hi Kuay,
Yes I well know about the changes from MSN as I was one of the first 100
users on the old web based system and at that time, they only had one local
access number in Redmond for all of Microsoft, it was the same one you would
use for CompuServe and others. I think it was in 1998 that Microsoft started
to get worried about the government split-up of Microsoft and basically spun
off MSN into its own company. I noticed that at about that time, things
changed for the worst.

The reason for my comment to the reply below was that I guess (and at this
time of year it always happens !) the many "just complaining" posts that do
not suggest a better way. I get tired of those !

Small change of subject. Did you get any new snow out your way ? I have to
head up there to pick up some parts today, we did not get any, but yikes its
cold and some nasty ice patches around here. Althou I would doubt there is
any problem on I405 or 5 getting there.
Thanks for the updates
Tedd


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Kuay Tim

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Jan 4, 2004, 11:02:13 AM1/4/04
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Hi Tedd,

There was very little snow here in Lynnwood. I had to look closely to see
any. The next warm weather system could bring significant snowfall Monday
night before it starts to melt later on Tuesday.

THIS LOOKS LIKE THE BEST OVERRUNNING SNOW
EVENT FOR WESTERN WASHINGTON SINCE THE HEAVY SNOWS AFTER CHRISTMAS
IN 1996.


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Tim K.
aka Kuay Tim
Lynnwood, WA
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Tedd Riggs

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Jan 4, 2004, 12:44:24 PM1/4/04
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Ah don't remind me of 1996. I was stuck down past Kent and it took me 9
hours to get home (at that time I lived in Issaquah), got home and no power
and late that night heard a big crash and about a 200 ft Fir tree had
decided to come down on the house, smashing the skylights in the kitchen and
causing a real mess....
I could not believe it, my outdoor thermometer on the house and car both
read 21 degrees here about an hour ago, this does not sound like normal
winter to me !!
Tedd

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Tedd Riggs

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...winston

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Jan 5, 2004, 1:05:43 AM1/5/04
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Its not a normal winter in a lot of places..Las Vegas has had more snow than
my area in MI..
...winston

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Tedd Riggs

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Jan 5, 2004, 9:50:40 AM1/5/04
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Jack,
Perhaps I came across wrong in my post, but for 95% of the time, I have had
excellent luck with MSN. My Comment about the "changes" that happened
sometime around 1998 were really regarding two issues.
1. MSN tech support was much harder to get hold of and the people at the
help sites seemed to only know MSN and ad very few options for fixing
problems that might be a hardware conflict or more likely a conflict with a
SPAM filter or Firewall. Now they are much more up to date.
2. MSN Software. This has been a ongoing fight, most of the time it works
ok, but the "Trayclt not responding" has been an issue since 1998 that has
ever been resolved. If I bypass MSN dialer and other software, its very rare
to ever have a problem except when the MSN database is confused or cannot be
accessed and you are hit by those about 4X5 inch screens that pop up and
want you to enter your user name and password and no matter what you enter,
it will not let you get the mail. Those when they happen can be irrating
until MSN gets them fixed, althou sometimes just calling back and getting a
different server/router/modem is all you need.

I think in all the years I have used them, I have had a busy signal maybe
twice and was randomly disconnected around 8-10 times, so for my, that's
pretty good service
Sorry if I came across the wrong way !
Tedd

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"Jack D. Russell, Sr." <jackru$$el...@notmail.com> wrote in message

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> I consider any post suggesting that most MSN problems are caused by MSN,
> not the user or the users system, and any advice to drop MSN for a real
> ISP as suggesting "a better way". I get tired of hearing about all of
> the MSN inflicted computer problems too, but to each his own. I guess
> improved technology (like beauty) is in the eye of the beholder.
> Personally, I've been with MSN for years and have never experienced ANY
> of the problems that one sees posted in this group on a daily basis, but
> then I don't use any of MSN's bug ridden, bloated, sloppily coded
> software.
>
> TR> Hi Kuay,
> TR> Yes I well know about the changes from MSN as I was one of the
> TR> first 100 users on the old web based system and at that time, they
> TR> only had one local access number in Redmond for all of Microsoft,
> TR> it was the same one you would use for CompuServe and others. I
> TR> think it was in 1998 that Microsoft started to get worried about
> TR> the government split-up of Microsoft and basically spun off MSN
> TR> into its own company. I noticed that at about that time, things
> TR> changed for the worst.
>
> TR> The reason for my comment to the reply below was that I guess (and
> TR> at this time of year it always happens !) the many "just
> TR> complaining" posts that do not suggest a better way. I get tired of
> TR> those !
>
>
> [Snipped]
>
> --
> Jack
>


...winston

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Jan 5, 2004, 11:17:52 PM1/5/04
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Tedd..your experience is similar to mine..but unlike many others if all we
need is a connection, no disconnects(the moofs of the mid 96-98 years though
were somewhat annoying), and not the rest of the so called service then one
could say its very reliable. Though for many others, the tools and premium
options are what draws them to pay the extra bucks and higher fee vs a local
isp..

For me very few issues with mail delivery(my paying msn accounts if you've
read this forum are still pop3); MSn 6 and 7 was tested/trials(not using the
pop3 account) lasted less than two months, MSn8(less than a week). I also
discontinued use of software for the pop3 accounts after version 2.6. With
respect to the premium services that showed up with MSn7 and later...I've
much more powerful and locally resident software to accomplish those same
tasks.

...winston

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