This would be your MVP's

[Val - Microsoft [.NOT MVP]]

hey... one of sandysKIDS....I bet they're proud (you think msft is?)

 

ROFLMAO!

You must be a Half_Wit clone. That's some mighty stupid words, coming from someone who posts in HTML!

Broken links and wrapping issues aren't the *only* reason I post in MIME-QP, but I admit they're major considerations. It's perfectly acceptable in MSNEWS, and for those who find that it doesn't conform to their comfort, or to their sense of propriety, or to the abilities of their own newsreader--quite honestly, that's not my problem. Still, I'm intelligent enough to *consider* changing my ways when new information comes my way, but only after careful consideration and experimentation.

FWIW (and not that I care one whit about your opinion, but just FWIW) I tend to use MS Products as they come, "right out of the box", as much as possible. That way I maintain a feel for what the average user has to deal with. I also tend eschew tweakers and the multitude of "cool progs" that are out there, mostly because 99% of them are pure, useless crap. *Most* of the new programming, and *all* of the cute stuff that gets installed on my machine is there because I need to find out how it managed to screw up someone else's machine.

You obviously don't have even a minimal understanding of the proper and acceptable use of cross-posting, and even if I thought you had a scintilla of respect for Sandi, which I'm sure you don't, it's obvious that you haven't sufficient brains to understand the true import of her admonitions.

All in all, you're a disgusting example of the worst kind of UseNet troll, and thus far, you're the only cause I have to slightly regret X-Posting to whatever poor neighborhood has been cursed with your presence.

Just a little regret, so don't let it go to your head.

Don't bother replying, not for my sake. You're headed for the dumper when I've finished sending.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS MVP for Windows 9x

 

 

[anon...@discussions.microsoft.com]

"The rules of the game remain the same. The only thing
that changes are the names and the places"

>-----Original Message-----
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(Oh - But it is available)

[Val - Microsoft [.NOT MVP]]

 

"Val - Microsoft [.NOT MVP]" <nobod...@this.dot.com> wrote in message news:OLA9eeD%23DHA...@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...

hey... one of sandysKIDS....I bet they're proud (you think msft is?)

 

ROFLMAO!

 

yup, you ROFLMAO is no surprise, mental midgets are easily amused.

You must be a Half_Wit clone.

 

A "Half_Wit Clone" am I?....nice touch

 

That's some mighty stupid words, coming from someone who posts in HTML!

 

humm... anyone ever teach you in third grade about proper sentence structure?

Broken links and wrapping issues aren't the *only* reason I post in MIME-QP, but I admit they're major considerations.

(there's that third grade ability to construct a complete sentence again)

 

It's perfectly acceptable in MSNEWS, and for those who find that it doesn't conform to their comfort, or to their sense of propriety, or to the abilities of their own newsreader--quite honestly, that's not my problem.

..."and" after a comma doesn't cut it.

..."it doesn't conform to their comfort...or...or..." nice run on sentence...quite honestly it IS your (one of your) problems.

Still, I'm intelligent enough to *consider* changing my ways when new information comes my way, but only after careful consideration and experimentation.

 

Ah....if you were, in fact "intelligent enough...." to consider anything you'd have been intelligent enough to not have posted the diatribe...."careful consideration and experimentation" not withstanding

FWIW (and not that I care one whit about your opinion, but just FWIW)

that you "care not one whit about your opinion" comes across loud and clear....nice touch for a mvNOTpee...sandy would be proud and I'm sure the mvNOTpee programme admin will be as well.

More importantly, it's a wonderful example you are setting for those who used to believe that mvNOTpees actualy cared about more than their own egos....nice work.

I tend to use MS Products as they come, "right out of the box", as much as possible. That way I maintain a feel for what the average user has to deal with. I also tend eschew tweakers and the multitude of "cool progs" that are out there, mostly because 99% of them are pure, useless crap. *Most* of the new programming, and *all* of the cute stuff that gets installed on my machine is there because I need to find out how it managed to screw up someone else's machine.

 

Feel better now that you got that off your chest?....I don't have a clue what your rant was all about but as long as you feel better that's all that matters in this "feel good" age isn't it? As long as you need to find out how it managed to screw up someones else's machine we have to guess that all's right with the world....gee I'm impressed.

You obviously don't have even a minimal understanding of the proper and acceptable use of cross-posting

obviously, I don't....but you do.....the "proper and acceptable use of crossposting is...according to you....whatever you decide it is...You might just want to check with your den mother because there are millions of folks who have been using usenet NG's for a whole lot longer then you that might just take issue with your understanding of "proper and acceptable use"

, and even if I thought you had a scintilla of respect for Sandi, which I'm sure you don't, it's obvious that you haven't sufficient brains to understand the true import of her admonitions.

 

argue with my "scintilla of respect...." if you like (you can't, because you have no knowledge of my degree of respect one way or another so you look the fool saying "I'm sure you don't) but saying "you haven't sufficient brains to understand the true import of her admonitions".....is something you really should consider retracting. After having reading what you wrote, if that sentence doesn't make you regret what you attemped to say, it should.

The good news is, schools out this week and they are having remedial third grade English Composition so you might want to attend.

All in all, you're a disgusting example of the worst kind of UseNet troll, and thus far, you're the only cause I have to slightly regret X-Posting to whatever poor neighborhood has been cursed with your presence.

 

Back to that third grade sentence structure thing again....no need for the comma after "all in all", or after "troll"...or "far"....but the "..you're a disgusting example of the worst kind of UseNet troll" is a nice touch.....the sandyKIDS sandbox teacher will be proud of you.

I'm sure your fellow mvNOTpee'ers will as well.

(OK, maybe not all of them....there actually are a few that will be abhore your childish comments....those are the few that really deserve the mvp moniker)

 

Just a little regret, so don't let it go to your head.

 

It all "goes to my head"....not your regret because in order to actually experience regret one must be capable of understanding. In your case that's obviously not an option.

[Joe L.]

Why are about 10% of the messages here marked "Message
unavailable"?

>-----Original Message-----
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[Val - Microsoft [.NOT MVP]]

a;

 

some of the names change....some stay the same

 

some of those that change are still the same in spirit.

 

that the shills never seem to run out of a new crop of whores willing to do or say anything for a T shirt is sad.....c'est la vie
--
val
micro$oft {dot.NOT.dot.NET.dot.NEVER} - mvp (since 1950)
hyperlinks used because they can be;
html posting encouraged;
bottom posters generally ignored as this is an "OE zone"

 

<anon...@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:1431101c3f840$4195af30$a401...@phx.gbl...

[Jack D. Russell, Sr.]

MS censorship??? Nah...couldn't be. <;)>
--
Jack

JL> Why are about 10% of the messages here marked "Message
JL> unavailable"?

[half_pint]

MVP?
I think the "real MVP" program died when Microsoft
cancelled it a few years ago for the weekend. It seems
that after that they are just adding MVP's right and left
and half have no idea what they are doing. Seems like
maybe 10 good MVP's are still around that are always
helpful. The rest are ones that post just a URL to go
looking for hours yourself or for the poor soul that has
Outlook Express that asks a question in Outlook, then the
MVP's turn into thugs and tell them to go look in the
Outlook Express forum. It would take about the same
number of words and time to just answer the question. And
then there is Val with her MSN-Nein and MVeePee and her
love of Sandi's kids (whatever that is) unless it means
the useless clippings that Hardmeier posts over and over
again. Its like calling Microsoft Support and getting the
India call center where they just look up answers and
post a URL that might have died years ago.
And where do all these exclusive MVP's hide ? There are
many names on "the list" that I have never seen posting.
It's sad that many of the MVP's think the more postings
the better, why not less postings but a little more
accurate answers and not all the ":-P" or other one line
junk that is cross posted over half the groups ???
I think the 15-20 good MVP's should stay, the rest can be
dumped and nobody would notice. Plus it might make MS's
prices go down as flying them to Redmond, free MSDN,
TechNet and all the fancy gifts get expensive. I would
rather see the money go into Microsoft Labs or developing
new products then trying to educate these ego lovers that
have taken over the groups.
If you look at the "official MVP list" how many do you
really see on here ??? not many.So get rid of the Sandi's
and PA Bear and get some helpful people, then it will be
a good group of people.
Regards,
half_pint

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Timothy J Curtin
Vadivel M
Victor Manuel Garcia Aprea
Vinod Kumar
Wallace Bryan McClure
Weihua Wang
Yan Lin Yang
Yong Gui Yang
Yong Jiang Nie
Yoshihiro Suzuki
Youichi Ubukata

Visual Developer - Scripting
Michael Harris
Torgeir Bakken
Vidar Petursson

Visual Developer - Security
Michel Gallant
Pablo Peláez
Troy Magennis

Visual Developer - Visual Basic
Alain Roper
Alex Martínez Teipel
Anand Mukundan
Andrew Campbell
Angel Ruiz
Benny K Mathew
Bill Evjen
Bill McCarthy
Billy Hollis
Bo Yuan
Bob Beauchemin
Bob OBrien
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Carl Franklin
Carlos de Mattos Jr.
Carsten Thomsen
Chang Ma
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Chris Hanscom
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Da Li Peng
Daisuke Komori
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De Ming Shang
Derrick Chen
Dick Grier
Don Hanfland
Don Kiely
Doug Marquardt
Eduardo A. Morcillo
Enrique Martínez Montejo
Francois Picalausa
Frank Carr
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Harald M. Genauck
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Hideki Tatenaka
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Huang Dong Zeng
In Cheon Hong
Jan Hyde
Jeff Johnson
John Spano
Jon Oliver
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Joseph LeVasseur
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Richard Clark
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Rockford Lhotka
Rod Paddock
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Rodrigo Nassar
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Rui Chen
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Wei Yuan
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William Vaughn
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Xiao Yu Wang
Xiyue Yu
Xue Fei Cai
Yanick Lefebvre
Yong Sung Ko
Yue Lin Zhou
Yugo Kishimoto
Yuichiro Ochifuji
ZhenJie Shen

Visual Developer - Visual C#
Akira Kawamata
Alberto Borbolla
Aman Deep Garg
Anand Narayanaswamy
Aravind W Corera
Arun Prakash Ganesan
Bela Istok
Ben Feng Chen
Bonnie Berent
Cathi Gero
Chris A Wallace
Christian Peyrusse
Chun Fu Wu
Daniel Carbajal
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David Salgado Bermejo
Devin Rader
DongOk Ahn
Eduardo Sobrino
Eric Meier
Frank Eller
Garth Sutherland
Ge Jin
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Hisao Yazawa
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Jeff Prosise
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Jim Saenz
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Visual Developer - Visual C++
Ajay Kalra
akihiro SHAMOTO
Alexander Nickolov
Andre Stille
Andreas Masur
Arnaud Debaene
Bao Hua Ma
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Brian Muth
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Check Abdoul
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Gi Tack Lee
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James M Curran
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Visual Developer - Visual FoxPro
Alex Feldstein
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Barbara Peisch
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Visual Developer - Visual J#
Angel Lopez
Bruno Jouhier
George Birbilis
Qi Dong

Visual Developer - Visual Source Safe
Joe Masters
Mark Michaelis
Weston Morris

Visual Developer - XML
Bjoern Hoehrmann
Christoph Schittko
Daniel Hector Cazzulino
Dimitre Dimitrov Novatchev
Donald Paul Demcsak, Jr.
J. Michael Palermo IV
Jeff Alan Julian
Joe Fawcett
Julian Reschke
Kuniyasu Yakushiji
Oleg Tkachenko
Sei Yakushiji
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Visual Developer - XML Web Services
Aaron Skonnard
Christian Weyer
Dan Wahlin
Fumiaki Yoshimatsu
HyuckSoo Lim
Michele Leroux Bustamante
Wei Liu

Windows - 9x
Alan Roger Edwards
Bert Kinney
Bill Starbuck
Chris Quirke
Christine Heinrich
Christoph Hölken
Detlev R. Dreyer
Gary S. Terhune
George Gedye
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Ron Badour
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Thomas H. Ferguson
Thorsten Matzner
Tim J. Slattery
Wayne J. Newton

Windows - Academic
James O. Hamblen
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Windows - CE.Net
Hidenobu Funaki
Il Joong Kim
Jan Yeh
Taira Iwasaki
Tsuyoshi Yarinome
Yu Ito

Windows - DDK
Alexandre Grigoriev
Bill K McKenzie
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Dan Stephan Partelly
Dejan Z Maksimovic
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Mark Gregory Roddy
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Phil Barila
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Thomas F Divine
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Tony Mason
Walter Oney

Windows - Digital Media
Alessandro Angeli
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Chris Lanier
Chris Pirillo
Deyan Stoyanov Atanasov
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Jay Munro
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Windows - DirectX
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Iain Downs
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Phil Taylor
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Rich Thomson
Robert Dunlop
Simon OConnor
Stephan Schaem
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Windows - Embedded
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Windows - Help
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Windows - IE/OE
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Xianhui Meng

Windows - Media Center
Al Lounsbury
Alex Feinman
Andrew Clark
Andy Vanosdale
Bob Cook
Corey Gouker
Daniel Sterling
David Denmark
Jeff Griffin
Justin M. Harrison
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Robert Schlabbach
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Walter Waltz

Windows - Mobile Devices
Alberto Pedro Valente Silva
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Windows - Networking
Al Jarvi
Alain Delveaux
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Bill Castner
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Robin Walker
Ron Lowe
Ryuji Nakane
Steve Duff
Steve Winograd
Tony Northrup
Tsuneyoshi Hamamoto
Tzu-Lien Cheng
Wen-Chang Huang
William Grant

Windows - Printing/Imaging/Hardware
Arthur Entlich
Bill Brayford
Bob Headrick
Bruce Sanderson
Cari Helen Miller
Colin Nash
Donald M. Lebow
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Joe Murphy
Koji Ando
Yoshio Itaya

Windows - SDK
Alun Jones
Andreas Marschall
Arkady Frenkel
Bob Moore
Chris Parsons
Christian Astor
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Frank Boyne
Gary Chanson
Grant Schenck
Hiroaki Shibuki
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Marco Antonio Perez
Michael Dunn
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Paul Baker
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Tim Robinson
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Windows - Security
Akira Ryowa
Andrew Carpenter
Benjamin Johnstone-Anderson
Carol Beauchamp
Deborah O'Choa
Don Patterson
Donna Buenaventura
Dwight Gentry
Eric L. Howes
Hajime Kojima
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Jim Martin
Jurren Bouman
Kelly Marshall
Kent W. England
Martin Kiaer
Michio Sonoda
Pieter Arntz
Pratyusa Kumar Manadhata
Sang Chul Han
Steven L Umbach

Windows - Shell/User
Al Dunbar
Albert T.C. Lin
Alejandro Curquejo Perez
Alessandro Borille
Alex Nichol
Alexandre Janeiro
An Wang
Anando Jyoti Chatterjee
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Pei Mao
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Porter Su
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Quan Li
R C White
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Yong Tao Yang
Yoshiteru Yagi
Yu-Hung Chen
Yuval Sinay
Yves Alarie
Zhen Liang
Zhu Guang Shao

Windows - Smart Display
Doug Knox
Tom Porterfield

Windows - Tablet PC
Casey J Chesnut
Chris Hassler
Chris Wilkerson
Dennis Rice
Fritz Switzer
John Dean
Justin Stigall
Linda A. Epstein
Loren Heiny
Peter Rysavy
Spencer Goad
Terri Stratton
Tom Bishop

Windows - Virtual PC
Paul Adare
Ronald Beekelaar
Steve Jain

Windows Server - Admin Frameworks
Benoit Hamet
Dan Wygant
Fernando Reyes López
John Sellens
Jong Bong Shim
Marty List
Melissa (Wise) Mendick
Paul Thurrott
Stephen Leonard Parry
Tobias Weltner

Windows Server - Clustering
John Toner
Vicente E. Grillo

Windows Server - Directory Services
Ace Fekay
Al Mulnick
Alexander G. Paoli
Alfredo David Garza Marin
Andy Barkl
Cary Shultz
Charles R Milburn, Jr
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Thomas Lee
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Tim Hines
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Tomasz Onyszko
Tony Murray
Ulf B. (Benedikt) Simon-Weidner
Vern Crouch
Willem Kasdorp
William J Stacey
Yi-Kuan Liu

Windows Server - File System
Chris Wolf
Greg Hayes
Jason Hiner
Phil Robyn
Sharon Crawford

Windows Server - General
Andrew Foxx
Anil Desai
Atakan Kesler
Bernie Herbert Klinder
Bev Moore
Bill Heldman
Brad Kelly
Brahim Nedjimi
Brian Gibson
Byron Hinson
Chiang Yen Lee
Chieh-Min He
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Dan Hanson
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Robert Stein
Rossano Orlandini
Steve Grundy
Steve Kaplan
Steven Lai
Steven Warren
Steven L Lewis
Ted Kao
Tim Holman
Timothy Mintner
Todd Richardson
William Sossamon

Windows Server - IIS
Alvaro Raul Lozano
Andrey Paramonov
Bill Shen
Brett Hill
Brian Scarbeau
Brien M. Posey
Bronislaw Kozicki
Chris Crowe
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Rick Zach
Rodrigo Marco Antonio Traverso
Soon Sung Hong
Stephen L Nicoud
Tom Kaminski
Tom Lee, Jr.
Tomasz Bryja
Tommy Hong
Vaidyaraman Sambasivam

Windows Server - Interop (Netware/SFU/Mac)
Charlie Russel
William M. Smith

Windows Server - Management
Aaron Lu
Alvin Chen
Arek Iskra
Carrie Garth
Darren Mar-Elia
David Herman
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Tom King
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Ye Li
Zubair Alexander

Windows Server - Media Server
Brandon Wirtz
Jun Liu

Windows Server - Networking
Alan Sugano
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Chun-Ming Yu
Daniel Galant
Denis Jedig
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Eric Rux
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Windows Server Systems - Academic
Cecilia Winnegar
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Balaji Ramachandran
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Windows Server Systems - Host Integration Server
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Windows Server Systems - ISA Server
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Windows Server Systems - SDK
Carlos Magalhaes
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Windows Server Systems - Security
Blake McNeill
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Windows Server Systems - Small Business Server
Andy L. Goodman
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>.
>

[Sandi - Microsoft MVP]

The *real* half pint's headers are as below. Half pint doesn't use CDO <G>

"From: "half_pint" <esboell...@yahoo.com>
Newsgroups: microsoft.public.security,microsoft.public.security.virus
Subject: Re: Using Firewalls and Antivirus at the same time
Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2004 02:03:01 -0000
Lines: 43
Message-ID: <c0hbeo$17cbvk$1...@ID-204080.news.uni-berlin.de>
References: <e09301c3f0cb$07595c30$a101...@phx.gbl>
NNTP-Posting-Host: 217.137.179.1
X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de 1076637976 41299956 I 217.137.179.1 ([204080])
X-Priority: 3
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000
Path:
TK2MSFTNGP08.phx.gbl!newsfeed00.sul.t-online.de!newsfeed01.sul.t-online.de!t-online.de!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!217.137.179.1!not-for-mail
Xref: TK2MSFTNGP08.phx.gbl microsoft.public.security.virus:44796
microsoft.public.security:48930..
--
_______________________________________
Sandi - Microsoft MVP since 1999 (IE/OE)
http://www.mvps.org/inetexplorer

[Cindy Winegarden]

In news: 1381201c3f885$b40f5b70$a101...@phx.gbl,
half_pint <esbo...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> ... And where do all these exclusive MVP's hide ? There are many names on
"the list" that I have never seen posting..... If you look at the "official
MVP list" how many do you really see on here ??? .....

> MVP Awards - Detailed List

< snip >

> Visual Developer - Visual FoxPro

< snip >
> Cindy Winegarden
< snip >

I'm not sure what the definition of "here" is - if you mean this newsgroup,
..msn.discussion, then I don't generally post here because a) I'm not an MSN
customer, and b) my area of expertise is Visual FoxPro.

In addition to posts to a web-based forum and an email listserv, I posted
over 2700 times in 2003 to the Microsoft public newsgroups, largely in
..fox.*, which is my area of expertise.
(http://netscan.research.microsoft.com/author/authorprofile.asp?searchfor=ci
ndy.win...@mvps.org&searchdate=12%2F31%2F2003)

--
Cindy Winegarden MCSD, Microsoft Visual FoxPro MVP
cindy.wi...@mvps.org www.cindywinegarden.com

[Val - Microsoft [.NOT MVP]]

cw;

 

Isn't that interesting?

And since you now have had the opportunity to add post number 2701 here, in a NG to which you acknowledge is beyond your area of expertise....how, exactly is it that you showed up here?

 

Let me guess.....the sandysKIDS network sent out the "circle the wagons" alert.

 

Or......"....just stumbled on it....".......yeh, right.

(it's that "credibility thing"....hole is yours to dig)

 

--
val
micro$oft {dot.NOT.dot.NET.dot.NEVER} - mvp (since 1950)
hyperlinks used because they can be;
html posting encouraged;
bottom posters generally ignored as this is an "OE zone"

"Cindy Winegarden" <cindy.wi...@mvps.org> wrote in message news:eKYllsK%23DHA...@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...

[Val - Microsoft [.NOT MVP]]

shmvNOTpee;

 

let me guess...because you determined that this poster isn't the "real" <g> half pint (whatever "real" is in your feeble interpretation), you elected to ignore the points made but willingly jumped in with yet another post to add to your count.

 

Whoever this "half-pint" poster is, regardless if it's THE "half_pint" to which you refer...ever consider that there might just be two on the planet?.....geeezzz....there just might even be two sandys (no, let's don't go there).

 

This h-p had a few disparaging remarks about me as well and so be it...that you did the usual shuffle and ignored the salient points is becoming sop and does not go unnoticed.

But...it's really post count that matters isn't it? hurry.....we had one of your kids here recently with 2701....better catch up

 

--
val
micro$oft {dot.NOT.dot.NET.dot.NEVER} - mvp (since 1950)
hyperlinks used because they can be;
html posting encouraged;
bottom posters generally ignored as this is an "OE zone"

"Sandy - Microsoft mvNOTpee" <sa...@mvps.org> wrote in message news:%23V3Z5aI%23DH...@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...

The *real* half pint's headers are as below. Half pint doesn't use CDO <G>

"From: "half_pint" <esboell...@yahoo.com>
Newsgroups: microsoft.public.security,microsoft.public.security.virus
Subject: Re: Using Firewalls and Antivirus at the same time
Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2004 02:03:01 -0000
Lines: 43
Message-ID: <c0hbeo$17cbvk$1...@ID-204080.news.uni-berlin.de>
References: <e09301c3f0cb$07595c30$a101...@phx.gbl>
NNTP-Posting-Host: 217.137.179.1
X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de 1076637976 41299956 I 217.137.179.1 ([204080])
X-Priority: 3
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000
Path:
TK2MSFTNGP08.phx.gbl!newsfeed00.sul.t-online.de!newsfeed01.sul.t-online.de!t-online.de!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!217.137.179.1!not-for-mail
Xref: TK2MSFTNGP08.phx.gbl microsoft.public.security.virus:44796
microsoft.public.security:48930..
--
_______________________________________

Sandy - Microsoft mvNOTpee since 1899 (IE/OE)
http://www.mvps.org/inotetexplorer

[Scott D.]

Val and all,
Think that you make some good points Val as the Sandy
kids and the leader. Nothing new is ever said, its just
one short line to usually the same MVP website and does
not address the question. Well in that case, you can get
much more from a google search. Seems like some of the
MVP's really listen and post a long and detailed response
and the not so good ones "MVP Since 1999" post the
useless one liners.

And whats the Sandy garbage about a "fake" half_pint ? I
have seen plenty of his postings, both the direct ones
and the ones from Microsoft Newsgroups (CDO). If you have
half a brain, its pretty clear its the same person, he
has the same foul tongue, makes the same spelling
mistakes and grammer mistakes, always signs things the
same way and is in the "attack mode" most all of the
time. Maybe he is trying to get his message (whatever it
is, it sure is not clear to me) across since most people
have heard enough of his garbage and blocked him.
As far as I can tell, Michael Jackson at Never-Never
land is the same ( moron ) that is also in court, same
thing goes for half pinted brain. he is just using
another way to get his messages to the world out. Only
problem is I do not think anyone is listening.....
And on the email comment about Val and getting.....That
was really rotten of half butt to say. I apoligize for
the male species Val, most of us are not like that !

[michael turner]

On Sat, 21 Feb 2004 06:19:23 -0800, half_pint wrote:

> MVP?
> I think the "real MVP" program died when Microsoft
> cancelled it a few years ago for the weekend.

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. You really are a complete and utter fucktard.

--
Michael Turner
Email (ROT13)
zvxr.gh...@ivetva.arg

[michael turner]

On Sat, 21 Feb 2004 17:50:24 -0500, Val - Microsoft [.NOT MVP] wrote:

> shmvNOTpee;
>
> let me guess...because you determined that this poster isn't the "real"
> <g> half pint (whatever "real" is in your feeble interpretation), you
> elected to ignore the points made but willingly jumped in with yet
> another post to add to your count.
>
> Whoever this "half-pint" poster is, regardless if it's THE "half_pint"
> to which you refer...ever consider that there might just be two on the
> planet?.....geeezzz....there just might even be two sandys (no, let's
> don't go there).

half_pint is just an asshole who likes trolling. The trouble is he/she/it
is just not very good at it.

[Larry Samuels]

LOL--nah, it's just CDO being even screwier than normal.
Anything posted through normal NNTP to the newsgroups has only the header
visible to anyone reading through the web interface.

--
Larry Samuels MS-MVP (Windows-Shell/User)
Associate Expert
Unofficial FAQ for Windows Server 2003 at
http://pelos.us/SERVER.htm
Expert Zone - www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
"Jack D. Russell, Sr." <jackru$$el...@notmail.com> wrote in message
news:ucpbUYH%23DHA...@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...

[anon...@discussions.microsoft.com]

Not so!

It is quite random OR it is quite intentional.

[Larry Samuels]

Hmm--there does seem to be a random factor involved.
I tried through CDO and I can see original posts made through NNTP, but all
replies posted through NNTP are message not available.

--
Larry Samuels MS-MVP (Windows-Shell/User)
Associate Expert
Unofficial FAQ for Windows Server 2003 at
http://pelos.us/SERVER.htm
Expert Zone - www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone

<anon...@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:13ddd01c3f8df$d972a2f0$a301...@phx.gbl...

[Sandi - Microsoft MVP]

Val - Microsoft [.NOT MVP] <nobod...@this.dot.com> wrote:

> let me guess...because you determined that this poster isn't the
> "real" <g> half pint (whatever "real" is in your feeble
> interpretation), you elected to ignore the points made but willingly
> jumped in with yet another post to add to your count.
>
> Whoever this "half-pint" poster is, regardless if it's THE
> "half_pint" to which you refer...ever consider that there might just
> be two on the planet?.....geeezzz....there just might even be two
> sandys (no, let's don't go there).

Going on the warning about spoofing of half_pint by half_pint (using his
'real' headers to post said warning in the security newsgroups), I'm betting
that this group's half_pint is the spoofer as well - especially considering
said half_pint doesn't normally post to this group (hey, maybe I called
him/her in too) <G>

[Larry Samuels]

Hi Jack,

Interesting--this group does not exist in the new interface at
http://communities2.microsoft.com/communities/newsgroups/en-us/default.aspx?guid=1080912A-26C5-7040-AFDD-2224A4FEB3EA

It can be reached through the old interface at
http://support.microsoft.com/newsgroups/default.aspx?NewsGroup=microsoft.public.msn.discussion&SLCID=US&ICP=GSS3&sd=GN&id=fh;en-us;newsgroups

--
Larry Samuels MS-MVP (Windows-Shell/User)
Associate Expert
Unofficial FAQ for Windows Server 2003 at
http://pelos.us/SERVER.htm
Expert Zone - www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone

"Jack D. Russell, Sr." <jackru$$el...@notmail.com> wrote in message

news:%23pnem5T%23DHA...@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> Do you have the URL of this group's CDO site? I know...I could search or
> Google, but it ain't really worth the time when I'm busy. <G>
> --
> Jack
>
> LS> Hmm--there does seem to be a random factor involved.
> LS> I tried through CDO and I can see original posts made through NNTP,
> LS> but all replies posted through NNTP are message not available.
>
>
> LS> <anon...@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> LS> news:13ddd01c3f8df$d972a2f0$a301...@phx.gbl...
> FL>> Not so!
> FL>>
> FL>> It is quite random OR it is quite intentional.
> FL>>
> FL>> has only the header
> FL> >> visible to anyone reading through the web interface.
>
> --
> Jack
>

[Tedd Riggs]

Hi Larry,
That new site does leave alot out. Trying clicking the UK, AutoRoute and
Money are the only items listed. Is this a beta site or what ? First time I
have seen it.

--
Tedd Riggs
PDA Square Content Developer
www.pdasquare.com
Redmond, WA

"Larry Samuels" <la...@mvps.org> wrote in message
news:uf9b9KU%23DHA...@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...

[Larry Samuels]

It is not beta,but it is still under development as part of the rollover to
webnews 2.
Right now there are many separate entries to the communities pointing to
various servers.
One thing that made the problem this weekend interesting was that people
coming in to the newsgroups through communities2 were seeing all posts while
those coming through support.microsoft.com could not see any replies posted
by NNTP.

--
Larry Samuels MS-MVP (Windows-Shell/User)
Associate Expert
Unofficial FAQ for Windows Server 2003 at
http://pelos.us/SERVER.htm
Expert Zone - www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone

"Tedd Riggs" <T_Riggs@msn.cöm> wrote in message
news:uceUKrU%23DH...@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...