Sidewinder X6 macro help
txdbeck
unable to copy and paste them in. I have tried to retype them but the format
that is coming up is very confusing, is there a way to turn that off? So that
it will look like what I'm typing now instead of all the symbols?
I really like the keyboard but if this is not the case I'll be returning it
sole reason for getting it is for the macro support.
Thanks
Cathy Moya [MS]
The first thing you have to grok about macros in IntelliType Pro (and
IntelliPoint) is that they are not the same as macros in Word or Excel or
other VB-based macros. If anyone here is old enough to remember the old
Lotus 1-2-3 macros (guilty) it's more like that, just keystroke
capture/replay. But unlike Lotus, the ITP/IP macros give you timing,
including "key is pressed" and "key is released" timing. Because of course
for games, unlike spreadsheets, it can matter.
I know the UI at first is overwhelming, but it really is designed to give
you more control. I had to just dive in and play with it a bit and then it
made total sense.
For example, create a new macro, and in the editor field, type
Shift F7
and in the window what you'll see is
Shift <down arrow>, a clock with 10, F7 with 10, another clock with 10, and
Shift <up arrow>
The times are all milliseconds (cause hey, a millisecond could mean life or
death, right?) You can highlight that block and change the timing.
The down arrow means the key is pressed and the up arrow means the key is
released. You only see it when you press the modifiers with other keys
(around here we call that "chording".)
You can also use the "insert special" drop down to put in things like a
mouse action, arrow key, time delay, etc.
Now, with the X6 (and some of the Sidewinder mice) you can create a macro
while you are in the game. Again, it's JUST capturing keystrokes. You press
the Macro Record button, press the key you want to invoke the macro, and
then start pressing the keystrokes in the macro. When you're done, press
Macro Record again. Everythign you recorded will be stored with a generic
name (Macro 000x) and you can edit it in the Macro editor. You might want to
try that in-game recording and then see what it looks like in the Editor. It
might make the whole thing click for you.
If not, write back. :-)
Oh, one more thing - let's say you have this killer macro you created in
Excel adn you want to assign it to the Macro key. Can you? Yes, but not
directly. In Excel, in the macro organizer, you can assign a key combination
to invoke the macro. So in Excel, you can say "when I press Shift+F7, play
my macro". Then you can go into the IntellType Pro software (aka the
keyboard control panel or Microsoft Keyboard) and you can do one of two
things: a) create a macro to play Shift+F7 and then assign it to your Macro
key. When you're in Excel it will play that back or b) for simple keystroke
playback, you can use the Keystroke option to assign a key (with modifier
keys). Which is probably easier.
And if that doesn't make sense, write back.
--
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txdbeck
#showtooltip Steady Shot
/console Sound_EnableSFX 0
/cast !Auto Shot
/cast Steady Shot
/click [target=pettarget,exists] MultiBarBottomLeftButton12
/console Sound_EnableSFX 1
/script UIErrorsFrame:Clear()
END
and another
/script Misdirectionhelper_Cooldown()
#showtooltip Misdirection
/cast [button:2] Misdirection
/stopmacro [button:2]
/cast [help] Misdirection
/stopmacro [help]
/target Clyde
/cast Misdirection
/targetlasttarget
END
Now if I could just copy and paste that would be great. My problem is with
all those icons and junk showing hard as heck to figure out what I have typed.
Suggestions???
Or will this not work for me?
txdbeck
and another
Suggestions???
Cathy Moya [MS]
scripting language or something that is internal to a game, but that's not
what IntelliPoint and IntelliType Pro macros do. All they do is play back a
string of keystrokes. If you can type out the string of keystrokes you would
use to cast "steady shot", then you can assign that string of keystrokes to
an ITP macro and call it from the Sidewinder keyboard.
Did you try what I suggested?
>> For example, create a new macro, and in the editor field, type
>> Shift F7
>> and in the window what you'll see is
>> Shift <down arrow>, a clock with 10, F7 with 10, another clock with 10,
>> and
>> Shift <up arrow>
--
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Microsoft Hardware User Experience
www.microsoft.com/hardware
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"txdbeck" <txd...@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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John Svensk
> It looks like you're trying to use some sort of programming language or
Yes, it's the scripting language of World of Warcraft (great game, btw) and
the most efficient solution is actually to use the macro facilities of WoW
itself.
* In the game, press Enter to get a prompt.
* type "/macro" followed by Enter
* choose an icon and a name for your macro
* enter the macro text into the text area
* drag the macro icon to a toolbar
* close the macro dialog box
* press Escape, click Key bindings
* choose a key combo for the command bar slot where you put your macro icon
* return to IntelliType and bind the WoW key combo to a macro key on your
keyboard
For more info on WoW macros and UI mods, wheck out the forums at wowhead.com
Hope that helps,
John
Cathy Moya [MS]
I just took the WOW plunge yesterday (on our "no snow" snow day in Seattle.)
I am a hopeless newbie!! I think I finally figured out how to get some of my
rogue abilities to the bar, but I think I died a dozen times trying to get
the @#$@#(* grapes. As a professional exercise, I'm trying to learn
everything just from the UI, the Help content, and the community content,
but I think there are some basics that they aren't spelling out because they
are so basic. I still don't really understand how I'm fighting the mobs. But
it's fun trying and failing. I'll grab my x6 and see if I can figure out
some WOW macros for it.
Do we need more gamer-specific content? I'm not saying game-specific,
because that could be endless, but I've been wondering if we need to group
or redo some content for gamers. Right now it's all mixed in with the
generic help, and that was the first thing my husband complained about when
I brought home the x6 for him to play with.
--
Cathy Moya
Microsoft Hardware User Experience
www.microsoft.com/hardware
This posting is provided AS IS with no warranties and confers no rights.
"John Svensk" <JohnS...@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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Moore@discussions.microsoft.com Gordon Moore
I just purchased the Sidewinder X-6 Keyboard myself and along with txdbeck I
cannot figure out how to use the macros so they are game compatible. I
understand that I can simple combine keys to create a macro, but I would like
to know if I could use the macros as keys themselves? For example, when I go
to edit the controls of a game, say fallout 3, when I press the "Edit Key"
button at the bottom, there is no response.
I really wish that they explained how to use the macros in games since
Microsoft designed the keyboard for gamer use.
Cathy Moya [MS]
I'm totally out of my depth, so I asked some of the people here who are
gamers, but we're having a hard time understanding your question. You asked
"I if I could use the macros as keys themselves" but we don't understand
what you mean by that. We also aren't sure when you say you "press the "Edit
Key" button at the bottom" what that means. Are you referring to a key on
the keyboard, or a setting in Fallout 3?
We have one gamer who blogs, and I asked him to write an entry about our
macros and how to integrate them into games. It will make a lot more sense
coming from him. I'll keep nudging him, and when he gets that live, I'll
post a link here, and then see what we can do to work that into the Help.
--
Cathy Moya
Microsoft Hardware User Experience
www.microsoft.com/hardware
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"Gordon Moore" <Gordon Mo...@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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stevena.
The sidewinder keyboard macros do something very similar, but they do not have the same system (or interface, for that matter) in WoW. The keyboard only knows the combination of other keys and has no knowledge of slash commands in games.
The disconnect comes when the keyboard tries to enter in its own macros into WoW. Just because they have the same name doesn't mean there is some magical connect between then two.
What needs to happen is the keyboard macros have to be connected to WoW _Key Binds_. This is things like Pressing 'W' moves you forward, 'S' moves you backward, 'NumPad-7' does button 1 on action bar 5.
----
My question, more for MS, tho -- is there a way to get the keyboard to have the S1-S30 keys registered over the 104-key limit? So, if I were to go into WoW -> Options -> Keybinds, hit the S2 button (without anything assigned to it) and have it show up in WoW as 'S2' instead of 'A'/'Numpad7'/etc.?
Cathy Moya [MS] wrote:
Hi, Gordon,I'm totally out of my depth, so I asked some of the people here who
05-Jan-09
Hi, Gordon,
I'm totally out of my depth, so I asked some of the people here who are
gamers, but we're having a hard time understanding your question. You asked
"I if I could use the macros as keys themselves" but we don't understand
what you mean by that. We also aren't sure when you say you "press the "Edit
Key" button at the bottom" what that means. Are you referring to a key on
the keyboard, or a setting in Fallout 3?
We have one gamer who blogs, and I asked him to write an entry about our
macros and how to integrate them into games. It will make a lot more sense
coming from him. I'll keep nudging him, and when he gets that live, I'll
post a link here, and then see what we can do to work that into the Help.
--
Cathy Moya
Microsoft Hardware User Experience
www.microsoft.com/hardware
This posting is provided AS IS with no warranties and confers no rights.
"Gordon Moore" <Gordon Mo...@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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Previous Posts In This Thread:
On Wednesday, December 03, 2008 6:43 PM
txdbec wrote:
Sidewinder X6 macro help
Need some help with creating macros. I have the macros I need to create but
unable to copy and paste them in. I have tried to retype them but the format
that is coming up is very confusing, is there a way to turn that off? So that
it will look like what I'm typing now instead of all the symbols?
I really like the keyboard but if this is not the case I'll be returning it
sole reason for getting it is for the macro support.
Thanks
On Thursday, December 04, 2008 4:56 PM
Cathy Moya [MS] wrote:
Hi,The first thing you have to grok about macros in IntelliType Pro (and
--
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"txdbeck" <txd...@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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On Thursday, December 04, 2008 8:33 PM
txdbec wrote:
Ok I'll post a couple of my macro's and you'll see my problem here it
Ok I'll post a couple of my macro's and you'll see my problem here it is:
/console Sound_EnableSFX 0
/cast !Auto Shot
/cast Steady Shot
/click [target=pettarget,exists] MultiBarBottomLeftButton12
/console Sound_EnableSFX 1
/script UIErrorsFrame:Clear()
END
and another
/script Misdirectionhelper_Cooldown()
/cast [button:2] Misdirection
/stopmacro [button:2]
/cast [help] Misdirection
/stopmacro [help]
/target Clyde
/cast Misdirection
/targetlasttarget
END
Now if I could just copy and paste that would be great. My problem is with
all those icons and junk showing hard as heck to figure out what I have typed.
Suggestions???
Or will this not work for me?
"Cathy Moya [MS]" wrote:
On Thursday, December 04, 2008 8:44 PM
txdbec wrote:
Ok I'll post a couple of my macro's and you'll see my problem here it
Ok I'll post a couple of my macro's and you'll see my problem here it is:
/console Sound_EnableSFX 0
/cast !Auto Shot
/cast Steady Shot
/click [target=pettarget,exists] MultiBarBottomLeftButton12
/console Sound_EnableSFX 1
/script UIErrorsFrame:Clear()
END
and another
/script Misdirectionhelper_Cooldown()
/cast [button:2] Misdirection
/stopmacro [button:2]
/cast [help] Misdirection
/stopmacro [help]
/target Clyde
/cast Misdirection
/targetlasttarget
END
Now if I could just copy and paste that would be great. My problem is with
all those icons and junk showing hard as heck to figure out what I have typed.
Suggestions???
Or will this not work for me?
"Cathy Moya [MS]" wrote:
On Monday, December 08, 2008 12:10 PM
Cathy Moya [MS] wrote:
It looks like you're trying to use some sort of programming language or
It looks like you're trying to use some sort of programming language or
scripting language or something that is internal to a game, but that's not
what IntelliPoint and IntelliType Pro macros do. All they do is play back a
string of keystrokes. If you can type out the string of keystrokes you would
use to cast "steady shot", then you can assign that string of keystrokes to
an ITP macro and call it from the Sidewinder keyboard.
Did you try what I suggested?
--
Cathy Moya
Microsoft Hardware User Experience
www.microsoft.com/hardware
This posting is provided AS IS with no warranties and confers no rights.
"txdbeck" <txd...@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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On Thursday, December 18, 2008 5:13 AM
JohnSvens wrote:
Re: Sidewinder X6 macro help
"Cathy Moya [MS]" wrote:
Yes, it's the scripting language of World of Warcraft (great game, btw) and
the most efficient solution is actually to use the macro facilities of WoW
itself.
* In the game, press Enter to get a prompt.
* type "/macro" followed by Enter
* choose an icon and a name for your macro
* enter the macro text into the text area
* drag the macro icon to a toolbar
* close the macro dialog box
* press Escape, click Key bindings
* choose a key combo for the command bar slot where you put your macro icon
* return to IntelliType and bind the WoW key combo to a macro key on your
keyboard
For more info on WoW macros and UI mods, wheck out the forums at wowhead.com
Hope that helps,
John
On Thursday, December 18, 2008 11:52 AM
Cathy Moya [MS] wrote:
Thanks, John,I just took the WOW plunge yesterday (on our "no snow" snow day
Thanks, John,
I just took the WOW plunge yesterday (on our "no snow" snow day in Seattle.)
I am a hopeless newbie!! I think I finally figured out how to get some of my
rogue abilities to the bar, but I think I died a dozen times trying to get
the @#$@#(* grapes. As a professional exercise, I'm trying to learn
everything just from the UI, the Help content, and the community content,
but I think there are some basics that they aren't spelling out because they
are so basic. I still don't really understand how I'm fighting the mobs. But
it's fun trying and failing. I'll grab my x6 and see if I can figure out
some WOW macros for it.
Do we need more gamer-specific content? I'm not saying game-specific,
because that could be endless, but I've been wondering if we need to group
or redo some content for gamers. Right now it's all mixed in with the
generic help, and that was the first thing my husband complained about when
I brought home the x6 for him to play with.
--
Cathy Moya
Microsoft Hardware User Experience
www.microsoft.com/hardware
This posting is provided AS IS with no warranties and confers no rights.
"John Svensk" <JohnS...@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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On Saturday, January 03, 2009 12:43 AM
Gordon Moor wrote:
Cathy,I just purchased the Sidewinder X-6 Keyboard myself and along with
Cathy,
I just purchased the Sidewinder X-6 Keyboard myself and along with txdbeck I
cannot figure out how to use the macros so they are game compatible. I
understand that I can simple combine keys to create a macro, but I would like
to know if I could use the macros as keys themselves? For example, when I go
to edit the controls of a game, say fallout 3, when I press the "Edit Key"
button at the bottom, there is no response.
I really wish that they explained how to use the macros in games since
Microsoft designed the keyboard for gamer use.
"Cathy Moya [MS]" wrote:
On Monday, January 05, 2009 1:44 PM
Cathy Moya [MS] wrote:
Hi, Gordon,I'm totally out of my depth, so I asked some of the people here who
Hi, Gordon,
I'm totally out of my depth, so I asked some of the people here who are
gamers, but we're having a hard time understanding your question. You asked
"I if I could use the macros as keys themselves" but we don't understand
what you mean by that. We also aren't sure when you say you "press the "Edit
Key" button at the bottom" what that means. Are you referring to a key on
the keyboard, or a setting in Fallout 3?
We have one gamer who blogs, and I asked him to write an entry about our
macros and how to integrate them into games. It will make a lot more sense
coming from him. I'll keep nudging him, and when he gets that live, I'll
post a link here, and then see what we can do to work that into the Help.
--
Cathy Moya
Microsoft Hardware User Experience
www.microsoft.com/hardware
This posting is provided AS IS with no warranties and confers no rights.
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i have try it but it wont work
this is what i do
open the keysettings list pick S1 klick on Assign/Mannage macro/new name it hop ik klick in the Editor field and create the following macro
DONT HOP WHEN SOMEWHAN SHOOT AT U
i klick save but when i am ingame pressing the button notting happens
txdbec wrote:
Sidewinder X6 macro help
03-Dec-08
Thanks
Previous Posts In This Thread:
On Wednesday, December 03, 2008 6:43 PM
txdbec wrote:
Sidewinder X6 macro help
Thanks
On Thursday, December 04, 2008 4:56 PM
Cathy Moya [MS] wrote:
and another
Suggestions???
"Cathy Moya [MS]" wrote:
and another
Suggestions???
"Cathy Moya [MS]" wrote:
Hope that helps,
John
"Cathy Moya [MS]" wrote:
On Sunday, January 24, 2010 3:19 PM
Steven A. wrote:
World of Warcraft <=> MS Sidewinder x6
A WoW Macro is not the same as a Keyboard Macro. WoW uses slash commands typed into a prompt just like a console application requiring parameters. These slash commands are things like /say <param>, /tell <param1> <param2>, and so on. These slash commands can be bundled up into groups and given an icon, then added to an "action bar" of icons, that when clicked repeat this list of slash commands.
The sidewinder keyboard macros do something very similar, but they do not have the same system (or interface, for that matter) in WoW. The keyboard only knows the combination of other keys and has no knowledge of slash commands in games.
The disconnect comes when the keyboard tries to enter in its own macros into WoW. Just because they have the same name doesn't mean there is some magical connect between then two.
What needs to happen is the keyboard macros have to be connected to WoW _Key Binds_. This is things like Pressing 'W' moves you forward, 'S' moves you backward, 'NumPad-7' does button 1 on action bar 5.
----
My question, more for MS, tho -- is there a way to get the keyboard to have the S1-S30 keys registered over the 104-key limit? So, if I were to go into WoW -> Options -> Keybinds, hit the S2 button (without anything assigned to it) and have it show up in WoW as 'S2' instead of 'A'/'Numpad7'/etc.?
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The macro you are creating would type back the text "DONT HOP WHEN SOMEWHAN
SHOOT AT U". If you run it when you are in notepad or Word, you should see
the text typed back to you. If you are in the middle of a game, I imagine
nothing is happening because there is no place to type the text.
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"C G" wrote in message news:201021240...@live.nl...
Beverly Howard
fwiw, I've been using Microsoft MVP Cary Chanson's Wintools Macro
options for several years to insert text into the keyboard buffer...
...could not live without it on my desktop and it's even better on my
tablet.
My thoughts, tutorial, links etc are at
http://www.bevhoward.com/WinTools.htm
They work in virtually every program and web page although every once in
a while, I encounter a web page which will not accept them.
One note... gotta update the above page as I have reverted to his
QWin.exe utility as it has proven to be more reliable for me.
Beverly Howard
stuartjackson
Cheers Stuart
Beverly Howard wrote:
fwiw, I have been using Microsoft MVP Cary Chanson's Wintools Macrooptions for
12-Feb-10
fwiw, I have been using Microsoft MVP Cary Chanson's Wintools Macro
options for several years to insert text into the keyboard buffer...
...could not live without it on my desktop and it is even better on my
tablet.
My thoughts, tutorial, links etc are at
http://www.bevhoward.com/WinTools.htm
They work in virtually every program and web page although every once in
a while, I encounter a web page which will not accept them.
One note... gotta update the above page as I have reverted to his
QWin.exe utility as it has proven to be more reliable for me.
Beverly Howard
Previous Posts In This Thread:
Thanks
and another
Suggestions???
"Cathy Moya [MS]" wrote:
and another
Suggestions???
"Cathy Moya [MS]" wrote:
Hope that helps,
John
"Cathy Moya [MS]" wrote:
----
On Friday, February 12, 2010 4:00 AM
C G wrote:
Text Macro`s
is it possible to create a text macro.
i have try it but it wont work
this is what i do
open the keysettings list pick S1 klick on Assign/Mannage macro/new name it hop ik klick in the Editor field and create the following macro
DONT HOP WHEN SOMEWHAN SHOOT AT U
i klick save but when i am ingame pressing the button notting happens
On Friday, February 12, 2010 4:48 PM
Cathy Moya \(MSFT\) wrote:
Hi,The macro you are creating would type back the text "DONT HOP WHEN
Hi,
The macro you are creating would type back the text "DONT HOP WHEN SOMEWHAN
SHOOT AT U". If you run it when you are in notepad or Word, you should see
the text typed back to you. If you are in the middle of a game, I imagine
nothing is happening because there is no place to type the text.
--
Cathy Moya
Microsoft Hardware User Experience
www.microsoft.com/hardware
This posting is provided AS IS with no warranties and confers no rights.
On Friday, February 12, 2010 6:59 PM
Beverly Howard wrote:
fwiw, I have been using Microsoft MVP Cary Chanson's Wintools Macrooptions for
fwiw, I have been using Microsoft MVP Cary Chanson's Wintools Macro
options for several years to insert text into the keyboard buffer...
...could not live without it on my desktop and it is even better on my
tablet.
My thoughts, tutorial, links etc are at
http://www.bevhoward.com/WinTools.htm
They work in virtually every program and web page although every once in
a while, I encounter a web page which will not accept them.
One note... gotta update the above page as I have reverted to his
QWin.exe utility as it has proven to be more reliable for me.
Beverly Howard
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and intellitype settings are stored in the registry, so, there is a good
chance that the macros are stored there as well
Create a macro containing a unique word such as "farkleburts" then
search the registry using regedit.
If you then find the keys, export them to a disk file and back that
up... if needed, they can then be re-imported into the registry.
Beverly Howard
stuartjackson
Cheers Stuart
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Would be best to respond to that reply and keep the discussion in the
orginal thread, especially if the info I posted was incorrect.
Beverly Howard
Beverly Howard
C:\Documents and Settings\<username>\My Documents\Microsoft Hardware\Macros
One file for each macro, in xml formatt.
As previously posted, the mouse and button setups are in the registry.
Beverly Howard
Beverly Howard
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\IntelliPoint\EventMapping
keyboard
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\IntelliType Pro\EventMapping
Beverly Howard
stuartjackson
Your answer has solved my question though.
Cheers Stuart
Beverly Howard wrote:
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