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MOM 2005 Windows Server Base OS MP - Latest Version - Targets wrong computer group

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Blake Mengotto [MVP]

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Apr 3, 2009, 4:07:05 AM4/3/09
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Just in case anyone else is still using MOM 2005 and has this MP imported
and didn't notice the mistake (from my blog):

This article applies to the MOM 2005 Server Base OS MP version:
05.0.3500.0010 (The latest version)

Tonight I was ensuring that specific counters were collected for CA Message
Manager. We monitor this application and the engineers for it wanted me to
add any counters that MOM isn't currently collecting.

After I installed agents I made some views for CA MM. I looked at the
performance data views and saw about nine counters. I thought that was odd.
So I did some digging and found that in the MSFT Windows Servers Base
OS>Windows 2003>Performance RG some of the counters I wanted to collect were
there. I scratched my head, because this was a W2K3 server. So I checked
the computer groups the RG was bound too. It was bound to W2K3 Virtual
Clusters! Sweet! Oh wait, not so sweet. Why this computer group is even
in there is beyond me. I thought maybe I got drunk one night and decided to
do some tweaking and broke it. However, I checked all my environments and
it was the same. I downloaded the MP from the catalog, imported it with the
option to OVER WRITE any changes to my MP and sure enough it was still
there.

What does this mean? That these performance measuring rules are not running
against stand alone W2K3 servers. It also means that someone didn't QA the
MP very well. Now I have to go check all the other RG's to see if there are
MORE mistakes.

I know not a lot of people are still using MOM 2005, but just imagine if
this happens in OM 2007? Sealed MP targeting the wrong server class? How
fun would that be to fix. My fix will be to remove the cluster computer
group and add the Windows 2003 Server group.

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Regards,
Blake
Email: mengotto<at>hotmail.com
Blog: http//discussitnow.spaces.live.com
OpsMgr MVP


David Tyra

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Apr 29, 2009, 1:24:43 AM4/29/09
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Blake,

We are still using MOM 2005 at AT&T, and I am seeing the same thing you are.
Thank you very much for the heads up. Guess I will be going through the
other rule groups as well.

Regards,

David Tyra

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Blake Mengotto [MVP]

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Apr 30, 2009, 1:10:49 AM4/30/09
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You are welcome. The Windows 2000 RG has this same issue. Why are you
working, unlike Scott Moss (also with ATT) who is currently slacking at MMS?
;-)

You might want to check something else. It's not an issue with MOM, but
perhaps a issue with Exchange 2003. I was looking at the capacity reports
in MOM 2005 for Exchange 2003 and saw that several of my Exchange servers
didn't have data for Client Connections and or Active Client Connections
(MSExchangeIS Mailbox - object).

Apparently on the majority of our Exchange 2003 servers these performance
counters have been disabled..

Anyway, we are in the process of getting off MOM 2005 since it's not getting
much attention and doesn't function well on 64 bit systems..

Hope you don't find any more issues with these older mps..

Regards,
Blake
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