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lena_hope

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Jul 29, 2007, 2:54:00тАпAM7/29/07
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Hello there, I am a PhD student in the middle of typing a final paper when
all of the sudden I looked up at my text and some of it was missing and
replaced with these little squares all linked together. I am not sure what
happened but it saved that way and now I can't recover my original text,
please help. Thanks so much!
--
lena

Clive Huggan

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Jul 29, 2007, 6:02:26тАпAM7/29/07
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Hello Lena,

You don't *really* mean that you have no backup at all for you final paper,
do you? Or a hard copy? I feel for you if you don't...

Much as I'd like to give an instant answer, we'll need to know more than
"replaced with these little squares all linked together". Could you describe
exactly what you see -- for example, do the squares comprise all the text?
What do you mean "all linked together"?

Please describe exactly what version of Word you are using, including the
updates; the version of your Mac's operating system; and the computer you
are using. The answer you'll receive depends on these details.

But that may not be necessary: Is the document still open? Can you operate
the golden-coloured anti-clockwise "undo" arrow?

(My time zone is 5-11 hours different from North America and Europe, so if
that's where you are living it's likely that someone else will provide the
answer, based on the response you give.)

Cheers,

Clive Huggan
Canberra, Australia
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John McGhie

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Jul 29, 2007, 7:53:37тАпAM7/29/07
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Hi Lena:

As Clive says, you haven't even told us which version of Word you are using,
so trying to help you is a bit of a losing battle.

Generically, I would say that somehow you have switched to a font that does
not contain the characters you are trying to type. A font like "Symbol" for
example.

It may also mean that your document is irretrievably corrupted and you will
have to restore from your backup.

If you don't HAVE a backup, you just found out why we place such importance
on backups around here :-) It is difficult to explain to some people that
computer files are not like paper documents. If a computer file is damaged,
you don't normally lose only "some" of it, you lose it ALL. Sadly, in
future, you will have no trouble understanding this concept; and by the time
you become "Doctor Lena" you will be one of the world's experts in the
science of computer backup :-)

If you would like us to recommend some simple backup mechanisms and
strategies to safeguard work that must be worth hundreds of thousands of
dollars by now (the data is always far more valuable than the computer...)
by all means get back to us.

Cheers


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lena_hope

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Jul 29, 2007, 11:48:01тАпAM7/29/07
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Sorry, it was very late when this happend. I am using MS Word 2002. I am
going to cry and copy and paste what I am seeing and hope it helps. As for
the updates, I am not exactly sure on those, and what ones that I have.
Here is what I see when I look at my screen. Oh and the other thing I fogot
to mention is that the computer seems to still be reading as though the text
were there. If that helps...

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them. Thus, it is important to put these plays in their historical context
and it becomes essential to consider who
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questioning their own oppressive limitations and freedoms as they viewed each
well thought out scene. In addition, they would have been familiar with much
of the, all be it veiled, biblical imagery and various scriptures which
pointed to the free choice of individual liberties over the oppressiveness of
monarchical and state rule that the great bard used in his artistry, such as
the scripture which states тАЬNo servant can serve two masters. Either he will
hate the one and love the other, or he will be devoted to the one and dispose
the otherтАЭ (Luke 16:13). Therefore, when King Henry V states in Act 4:1
тАЬEvery subjectтАЩs duty is the/ KingтАЩs; but every subjectтАЩs soul is his ownтАЭ
(176-178), they would have been very aware of the fact that oneтАЩs duty to the
King or State often usurps the possession and duty of oneтАЩs own soul. More
often than not, the soul, which is representative of the self and the
individual being, becomes so engrossed in servitude that they lose site of
themselves. They are unable to decipher between who they are as a subject
and who they are as an individual. Accordingly, they are no longer able to
grasp a hold of what is right and what is wrong because their souls have
become so entwined with
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the soul, which is representative of the self and the individual being,
becomes so engrossed in servitude that they lose siteat Shakespeare was well
acquainted with the teachings of Christianity when he states тАЬChristianity
does not hold a monopoly on the idea one must lose the world in order to win
a better world, but its expressions of that idea were plentifully available
to Shakespeare: тАШBlessed are the meek, for they shall inherit the earthтАЩ (the
Sermon on the Mount)тАжтАШHe hath put down the mighty from their seats, and
exalted them of low degreeтАЩ (Luke 1:52)тАЭ (1204). It is this last scripture
that Bevington notes which Shakespeare seems, in his infinite wisdom, to
incorporate the most through out his plays, especially those of Henry V and
Antony and Cleopatra. Coming from experience in dealing with tyrannical
rulers, such as Queen Elizabeth, Shakespeare wanted to see those of low
degree have an end to their suffering while those who have abused their
nobility and divine right, perhaps gain a little poetic justice. As Dr.
Ronald Shafer has pointed out in his hand out on тАЬPhilosophic Postulates in
ShakespeareтАЩs King Lear,тАЭ тАЬGrace intervenes only after one has confronted the
vast wretchedness and sinfulness (hubris, etc.) of his own fallen state,тАЭ (4)
or тАЬstateтАЭ as the case may be, especially in considering oneтАЩs own
citizenship duties to the state. It becomes clear that the state rewards only
on the works of its servitude thereby leaving no room for mercy or grace,
only the favor of works well completed, but where does that leave the soul
who relies on the mercies of grace for its salvation and its liberties. In
the end, one needs to confront what it means to be a citizen of that state
and what it means to be free to follow matters of the soul.
Thus, it is my argument that Shakespeare in his cast of characters stands
up for the side of the divine right of the individual human
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the bees to leave the hive of forced servitude and debilitating oppression of
state and monarchical control and enables their own free will in choosing to
stop and inhale the liberating smell of the roses of their God given souls.
This liberation of the soul usually happens through a purging or
self-sacrifice but as Shakespeare, himself, might say, тАЬa rose by any other
name, nay, would not smell as sweet as the smell of grace.тАЭ
Bound to the Colony: Henry V and the Hive Mentality
As a result, the bee hive mentality which is so evident in ShakespeareтАЩs
historic play of Henry V may be seen as a way to maintain control over the
state or kingdom as it was a way to ensure loyalty amongst its citizens.
However, this leaves out the possibility of being able to stay true to oneтАЩs
soul or oneтАЩs self when one is duty bound to the kingdom, like the drone bee
to the hive. In fact, Henry V, the king bee, is seen so much in control of
the situation that even his speech is said to drip with honey when Canterbury
states of Henry in Act 1.1 тАЬAnd the mute wonder lurketh in menтАЩs ears/ To
steal his sweet and honeyed sentences;/ So that the art and practice part of
life/ Must be mistress to this rhetoricтАЭ (lines 50-53). In other words,
insinuating, that it is through this honey sweet rhetorician that the
subjects in drone like state are succumbed to his will in order to maintain
the flow of the hive. Similarly, in this instance, Henry is compared to a
God-like state as this same language is seen in the scripture Psalms 119:103
тАЬHow sweet are your words to my taste, sweeter than honey to my mouth.тАЭ
Therefore, Shakespeare is once again invoking the Christian element of grace
and establishing a sort of paradox through the
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However, at the same time, it might be said that Henry himself is a victim
of this hive mentality in the oppression of the kingdom/state in that he is
not allowed to be a mere man, a mere member of the human race due to his
kingship. He basically has to loose his own soul, his own position of self,
in order to fulfill the duty placed on him by the state. Henry, basically,
gives up his moral compass in this duty especially upon his decision to
attack or rather invade France. For example, the Duke of Exeter in Act
1.1.122-24 comments тАЬYour brother kings and monarchs of the earth/ Do all
expect that you should rouse yourself/ As did the former lions of your
blood.тАЭ Thus, implying that it is the duty of a king to invade foreign
countries and take what is rightfully his, a stately duty. It is what was
expected of a king whether or not it went against what his own moral compass
was telling him. He was duty bound at this point and no longer in control of
his will. Henry in 1.1.302, 309-310 commands тАЬFor we have now no thought in
us but France/ тАж/ Therefore let every man now task his thought,/ That this
fair action may on foot be brought.тАЭ He has been taken over by the sweet
honey of the state and is lost in its buzzing.
Yet, it is Bishop Canterbury, in his own persuasive eloquence in Act
1.2.184 тАУ 213, who reinforces the colony mindset in both his subjects and in
King Henry V, himself. He exemplifies this notion when he states
Therefore doth heaven divide/ The state of man in divers functions,/
Setting endeavor in continual motion,/ To which is fixed, as an aim or
butt,/ Obedience; for so work the honeybees,/ Creatures that by a rule in
nature teach/ The act of order to a peopled kingdom./ They have a king, and
officers of sorts,/ Where some, like magistrates, correct at home;/ Others,
like merchants, venture trade abroad;/ Others, like soldiers, armed in their
stings,/ Make boot upon the summerтАЩs velvet buds,/ Which pillage they with
merry march bring home/ To the tent royal of their emperor,/ Who, busied in
his majesty, surveys/ The singing masons building roofs of gold,/ The civil
citizens kneading up the honey,/ The poor mechanic porters crowding in/
Their heavy burdens at his narrow gate,/ The sad-eyed justice with his surly
hum/ Delivering oтАЩer to executors pale/ The lazy yawning drone. I this
infer,/ That many things, having full reference/ To one consent, may work
contariously./ As many arrows loosed several ways/ Come to one mark,/ тАж/ End
in one purpose, and be all well borne/ Without defeat. Therefore to France,
my liege!тАЭ
Thus, relating back to the scripture in Luke that states no man may serve
two masters, Canterbury also notes that heaven divides тАЬThe state of man in
diverse functions,тАЭ illustrating the fact that man is placed in a binary
situation where he must chose between his duty to the state and his own moral
duty. However, Canterbury, a religious force of the state, would have the
King believe that those duties were one in the same by continuing to describe
the kingdom as a bee colony or hive, noting that all the workers work
together for the whole hive and the oneтАЩs who ignore their duties of
obedience to the king or emperor, or handed over to the тАЬsad-eyed justiceтАЭ
and are executed, insinuating that he did not want to see this happen to his
majesty, King Henry V. Therefore, Henry, once again, is reminded of his duty
to the state, to England and is incited to action against France where if he
would have been lead by his own moral compass, his soul; he might not have
been so inclined to do so. Instead of Henry listening to and serving
Providence, he is lead to believe that the buzzing of the state and its loyal
citizens are the only moral compass that he needs. Accordingly, Bevington
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of self wherein he is now possessed by the monarchy and lost to its all
encompassing debt of servitude to the state. Thus, if Henry fails to live up
to this ideal of works set forth by the state; he is sent off to be executed
in some way, shape or form and is denied that manner of grace that would
nourish his soul. Once again the soul is unable to rise above the fettered
limitations and is chained to the honor bound duty of the state or monarchy.
This imagery of the honey bees and the mentality of the hive are revisited
in Act 2.2.20-31 in a conversation that the king has with those who are
conspiring against him, the Earl of Cambridge and Sir Thomas Grey. It begins
with a statement of loyalty by the king which reinforces the hive mentality
of all for the king or none at all and establishes a precedent of what will
happen to those who go against the hive. He states тАЬI doubt not that, since
we are well persuaded/ We carry not a heart with us from hence/ That grows
not in a fair consent with ours,/ Nor leave not one behind that doth not
wish/ Success and conquest to attend on usтАЭ (lines 20-24). Thus, it would
appear that as long as the subject remains obedient to the hive, wanting to
establish the order of the hive, and maintain its power and glory then all
will be included; however, dare to go against the flow of the honey and the
subject may find itself exiled from its golden graces. Again, this mentality
of the hive maintains the concept of a works based system of reward whereby
if a subject is following in the footsteps of the king, praising his every
move, following the strict order of dutiful obedience then he/she is given
all the graces of the king but receives nothing of the grace of Providence in
which they have the free will of the soul to live or think for themselves.
In fact, in response to the king, the Earl of Cambridge, points out to
Henry тАЬNever was such a monarch better feared and loved/ Than is your
Majesty. ThereтАЩs not, I think, a subject/ That sits in heart-grief and
uneasiness/ Under the sweet shade of your governmentтАЭ (25-28). In other
words, the subject is duty bound to the king and would not dare question his
guidance or judgment, following in blind subservience and staying in tune
with the buzz of the hive in order to receive the evanescent golden sweet
reward of the kingтАЩs good graces. In which case, they barter away their only
certainty in their life and that is their own true sense of self-hood for the
allusion of statehood supplied by the kingdom. Accordingly, it would appear
that Cambridge, in this case, is using the kingтАЩs sense of hive mentality and
dutiful obedience to disguise their attempts to break free from the hive in a
conspiracy attempt to sell of their king along with hopes of flattery
receiving some of that golden essence of pardon. Consequently, then, his
unrelenting doting serves a two fold purpose in both as someone who has been
caught with his hand in the honeycomb and as someone stuck in the pervasive
confines of servitude to the monarchy. However, it is Sir Thomas Grey who
tips his hat at their endeavors when he relates back to the metaphor of the
bee by noting тАЬTrue. Those that were your fatherтАЩs enemies/ Have steeped
their galls in honey, and do serve you/ With hearts create of duty and zealтАЭ
(29-31). Consequently, Grey is pointing out, in this case, that while they
did try to conspire against the king, they were unable to completely go
through with it because they were not completely liberated from the hive.
They were, as Grey comments, so тАЬsteepedтАЭ in honey that they wee stuck in the
тАЬduty and zealтАЭ of the monarchical hive mentality. Therefore, they were in a
double bind because not only were they caught by the king but they were
caught in something beyond their control, they were fettered in the
stickiness of the honey comb and bound by the chains of statehood.
Yet, on the other end of the spectrum of monarchical establishments rules
the King of France with a different perspective than that of the English
throne with its reputable mindset of the hive mentality. It is France that
takes up this modern notion of self by permitting the king to make his own
decisions and by showing his own will not to submit to this prevailing buzz
of colonization by the English notion of statehood. The Dauphin of France
comments on this submissive and oppressive rule of King Henry and his court
when he states in Act 2.3.71-74 тАЬGood my sovereign,/ Take up the English
short, and let them know/ Of what a monarchy you are the head./ Self-love my
liege, is not so vile a sin/ As self-neglecting.тАЭ This statement by the
Dauphin to the King of France is very telling and very noting of
ShakespeareтАЩs own sympathies because it enlightens the notion of the
liberation of self-hood and the soul, especially when he states that
тАЬself-loveтАЭ is not as sinful as complete abandonment of self-neglect in which
King Henry is guilty as charged.

This is what I am seeing when I look at my file. Thank-you so much for your
help. Anything at this point is appreciated, even figuring out what happened
and why because I don't want it to happen again. Thanks again!
--
lena

John McGhie

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Hi Lena:

To correctly diagnose anything like this, we need to know the Version and
Update Level of both Word and your operating system.

However, in this case "Word 2002" tells me much of what I need to know: it
was perhaps the most buggy version of Word Microsoft ever put out, and since
you are unable to mention which updates you have, let's assume "None". If
that is the case, that's the cause.

Looking at your text here doesn't tell me much, because the material has
changed binary format when you pasted it. However, I will take a wild guess
just from the "appearance" and say it's not a bad font, it's a corrupt
document.

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> This is what I am seeing when I look at my file. Thank-you so much for your
> help. Anything at this point is appreciated, even figuring out what happened
> and why because I don't want it to happen again. Thanks again!

That looks like document corruption to me.

1) Create a new blank document

2) Make sure your paragraph marks are visible

3) CAREFULLY copy everything EXCEPT the very last paragraph mark in the
file.

4) Paste into the new document, and save under a new file name.

That will fix the current document. The bad text will remain bad, but
hopefully no more text will disappear.

Now, to stop it happening again, go to the Microsoft Office site and run
Windows Update, and then Office Update. Keep running each until it offers
you nothing more, and install EVERYTHING it offers you, especially the ones
it calls "Optional".

You need a quick lesson in "Microsoft Speak". A "Critical" update is "A fix
to a bug for which Microsoft could get sued." A "Recommended" update is "A
fix to a bug that will cause data loss (such as the one you have now)." An
"Optional" update is "A fix to a bug for which some other company might get
sued." The labels on the site, in other words, have nothing to do with YOUR
priorities or what YOU might consider important.

Word 2002 was a really nasty bug-farm, so unless you update it completely
it's not safe to use (as you discovered...)

Now: get into Tools>Autocorrect>Automatically while you type... And turn
EVERYTHING in there OFF.

Get into Tools>Options>Edit and turn OFF "Keep track of formatting" and
"Highlight formatting inconsistencies".

That should keep you out of trouble until you finish your dissertation.
Along the way, spend some time learning about Styles, and adopt a working
method whereby you do ALL of your formatting using styles.

When you do that, Word will run sweetly and reliably all day long. Even
Word 2002. Provided you've turned off the AutoFormat and Keep Track of...
Stuff :-)

Oh, one other tip: This is a group supporting Microsoft Word for the
Macintosh. The good folks over at the Windows Word groups will be a hell of
a lot less insufferably superior when you next need to ask a question :-)

Hope this helps

Clive Huggan

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On 30/7/07 12:17 PM, in article C2D3875C.6062%jo...@mcghie.name, "John
McGhie" <jo...@mcghie.name> wrote:

<snip>

> Oh, one other tip: This is a group supporting Microsoft Word for the
> Macintosh. The good folks over at the Windows Word groups will be a hell of
> a lot less insufferably superior when you next need to ask a question :-)
>
> Hope this helps


Don't worry, Lena, John's not superior... ;-)

For a listing of all the discussion groups, start here:
http://www.microsoft.com/office/community/en-us/FlyoutOverview.mspx

Cheers,

Clive Huggan
Canberra, Australia
(My time zone is 5-11 hours different from North America and Europe, so my
follow-on responses to those regions can be delayed)
============================================================

lena_hope

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Jul 30, 2007, 7:54:00тАпPM7/30/07
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Thank-you both for your help! It was definitely a file that had been
corrupted, though I am not sure how as of yet. I took my pen or flash drive
up to the technology help desk on my campus and they are working on trying to
recover the file now. I really appreciate everything that you tried to do.
I am sorry, as well, I didn't know this was for Mac users, which I had
considered on purchasing but judging from the posts on this board, maybe I
won't--ha, ha! just kidding! Thanks again.
--
lena

Clive Huggan

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Jul 31, 2007, 1:45:27тАпAM7/31/07
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We hope it gets fixed, Lena!

And don't believe those supercilious Mac commercials! ;-)

Clive
======


On 31/7/07 9:54 AM, in article
D4B893E4-6B2E-4736...@microsoft.com, "lena_hope"

lena_hope

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Thanks again! Well, just to update, it didn't get fixed. However, thanks to
God's grace, I went to open the file to print off what I could so that I had
something to base my rewrite off of and when I went to open my file, nothing
on the drive would open. A dialog box came up that said I had hidden files,
I didn't know I had hidden files. So, I clicked on the box, and a file came
up that looked somewhat familiar, it was a letter with a bunch of numbers for
the name. I clicked on it, and low and behold it was my paper. My computer
had saved the file, renamed it, and hid it before the original file went
corrupt. I kid you not, it wasn't there before. I had spent a night and all
the next morning looking for it. The IT guys at my campus never saw the
files. I can only say that it was God, helping me in my time of need as He
always does.
Thank-you though Clive for your nice comments and help. Thanks to John too,
even he did appear rude at times. He was only trying to help.
May God Bless You Both,
Marlena :-)
--
lena

Clive Huggan

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Aug 3, 2007, 9:17:13тАпAM8/3/07
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Stranger than fiction, Marlena! And unique -- we have never heard of
anything like it. I am glad you have been favoured in being presented with a
near-miraculous solution...

Thank you for blessings. Please forgive my learned colleague McGhie. I have
occasionally noticed that he becomes fatigued after writing long, tailored
solutions to people's problems, after which his expression -- always at the
end -- can become rather brutish, as you have observed. I think he
sometimes becomes somewhat disoriented because in his earnestness he stays
up late to answer, during their working hours, people who are 5-11 hours out
of kilter in the North American and European time zones.

Possibly there are cultural differences involved too (he is of the
antipodean Land of the Long White Cloud); I recall Winston Churchill's
famous reference to "two great peoples, divided by a common language". I
shall nevertheless remonstrate privately with him when (if?) he returns from
darkest China, where he is travelling at present.

With my renewed compliments (and don't forget to back up :-)

Clive Huggan
Canberra, Australia
======================

On 3/8/07 1:06 PM, in article
51A1638A-85D2-40C6...@microsoft.com, "lena_hope"

John McGhie

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Aug 3, 2007, 11:17:01тАпAM8/3/07
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Hi Lena:

Ah hah! There you go :-) If you had mentioned the flash drive at first I
would have been right onto the problem for you.

Flash drives are not 100 per cent reliable. They "wear out" over time.
After a large number of writings and re-writings, they can develop bad
cells. When that happens, the flash drive will attempt to substitute spare
cells for the bad ones, until it has none left.

In the meantime, the data in the bad cells is wrong, producing that very
characteristic corruption.

The bottom line is NEVER trust removable media of any kind: hell never trust
ANY media with the ONLY copy of something valuable.

Always, always, always have a backup!

And you're right: Macs have just as many fainting fits as PCs these days:
we're fully compatible!!

Cheers


On 31/7/07 9:54 AM, in article
D4B893E4-6B2E-4736...@microsoft.com, "lena_hope"
<lena...@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:

> Thank-you both for your help! It was definitely a file that had been
> corrupted, though I am not sure how as of yet. I took my pen or flash drive
> up to the technology help desk on my campus and they are working on trying to
> recover the file now. I really appreciate everything that you tried to do. I
> am sorry, as well, I didn't know this was for Mac users, which I had
> considered on purchasing but judging from the posts on this board, maybe I
> won't--ha, ha! just kidding! Thanks again.

--

John McGhie

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Aug 3, 2007, 11:23:16тАпAM8/3/07
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Hi Lena:

Just to complete the picture: The IT guys on the campus SHOULD have seen
the files.

However, you are quite correct: they WEREN'T there before.

The IT guys would have run a process named ScanDisk on the flash drive.
That would have gone looking for all the "bits" of files on the drive, and
turned each one into a hidden file with a generated name.

They should have known that, and looked again after running the process :-)

Glad you got your paper back. Just check it carefully: chances are it's a
version that existed one or two saves before the most recent one. The last
few changes may be missing.

Cheers

On 3/8/07 11:06 AM, in article
51A1638A-85D2-40C6...@microsoft.com, "lena_hope"
<lena...@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:

> Thanks again! Well, just to update, it didn't get fixed. However, thanks to
> God's grace, I went to open the file to print off what I could so that I had
> something to base my rewrite off of and when I went to open my file, nothing
> on the drive would open. A dialog box came up that said I had hidden files,
> I didn't know I had hidden files. So, I clicked on the box, and a file came
> up that looked somewhat familiar, it was a letter with a bunch of numbers for
> the name. I clicked on it, and low and behold it was my paper. My computer
> had saved the file, renamed it, and hid it before the original file went
> corrupt. I kid you not, it wasn't there before. I had spent a night and all
> the next morning looking for it. The IT guys at my campus never saw the
> files. I can only say that it was God, helping me in my time of need as He
> always does.
> Thank-you though Clive for your nice comments and help. Thanks to John too,
> even he did appear rude at times. He was only trying to help.
> May God Bless You Both,
> Marlena :-)

--

little_creature

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Aug 4, 2007, 4:14:37тАпPM8/4/07
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hi there,
I have spotted mentioning thumb drive. To all: whenever you save any
data to any removable disk first save your document to your hard disk
and then copy it to the removable media. Direct saving to floppy drive
was like commitment of suicide. The reliability of media has improved,
but still never ever save directly to removable media. Imagine what
can happen if network's down just when you are in the middle of
saving your work to the network drive. All your work will be lost,
forever with no backup.


On Aug 3, 5:23 pm, John McGhie <j...@mcghie.name> wrote:
> Hi Lena:
>
> Just to complete the picture: The IT guys on the campus SHOULD have seen
> the files.
>
> However, you are quite correct: they WEREN'T there before.
>
> The IT guys would have run a process named ScanDisk on the flash drive.
> That would have gone looking for all the "bits" of files on the drive, and
> turned each one into a hidden file with a generated name.
>
> They should have known that, and looked again after running the process :-)
>
> Glad you got your paper back. Just check it carefully: chances are it's a
> version that existed one or two saves before the most recent one. The last
> few changes may be missing.
>
> Cheers
>
> On 3/8/07 11:06 AM, in article

> 51A1638A-85D2-40C6-853E-3B8974F25...@microsoft.com, "lena_hope"


>
>
>
> <lenah...@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
> > Thanks again! Well, just to update, it didn't get fixed. However, thanks to
> > God's grace, I went to open the file to print off what I could so that I had
> > something to base my rewrite off of and when I went to open my file, nothing
> > on the drive would open. A dialog box came up that said I had hidden files,
> > I didn't know I had hidden files. So, I clicked on the box, and a file came
> > up that looked somewhat familiar, it was a letter with a bunch of numbers for
> > the name. I clicked on it, and low and behold it was my paper. My computer
> > had saved the file, renamed it, and hid it before the original file went
> > corrupt. I kid you not, it wasn't there before. I had spent a night and all
> > the next morning looking for it. The IT guys at my campus never saw the
> > files. I can only say that it was God, helping me in my time of need as He
> > always does.
> > Thank-you though Clive for your nice comments and help. Thanks to John too,
> > even he did appear rude at times. He was only trying to help.
> > May God Bless You Both,
> > Marlena :-)
>
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>
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