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CyberTaz

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Jan 10, 2006, 6:07:02 PM1/10/06
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Hi Martynas -

The problem is that this is an Enhanced MetaFile (variation on wmf - Windows
MetaFile) which MacWord cannot recognize. If you have a graphics program
that can open it (I used Illustrator) or a utility like GraphicsConverter,
you can save as or convert to one of the graphic file types supported by
MacWord. Can't guarantee what the results will be if converted, though.

HTH |:>)


On 1/10/06 4:19 AM, in article ebaR5bcF...@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl,
"Martynas Lelevicius" <ma...@nomagic.com> wrote:

> Hello,
>
> When inserting EMF image (attached) from file, Mac Word complains that "The
> picture file is corrupted".
> Win Word inserts image without problems.
>
> Microsoft Word 2004 for Mac Test Drive
> Version 11.2 (051115)
>
> Mac OS X
> Version: 10.4.3
>
> Thanks,
>
> --
> m
>
>
>

Martynas Lelevicius

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Jan 11, 2006, 2:05:02 AM1/11/06
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Hi,

Actually Mac Word can recognize EMF. Some of EMF images are inserted, but
some are reported as corrupted.
And I can not figure out what is wrong with these images.

Regards,
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m


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CyberTaz

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Jan 11, 2006, 11:10:44 AM1/11/06
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Let me rephrase...

According to MS, WMF & EMF are _not supported_ graphics file formats in
MacWord. If you'd like to verify this, take a look in Word Help for
suppoted graphics formats. That doesn't mean that 'some' won't work,
but it also doesn't mean that _all_ will. IOW, the message you are
getting doesn't necessarily mean there is anything corrupt about the
file. As I said, I was able to open it in AI with no problem at all.

EMF is an extensible graphics format & can be very fickle... not even
every EMF-compliant program on the Windows platform can handle _any_
EMF file it encounters. For more, see

support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;320314

Regards |:>)

mmmmark

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Jan 11, 2006, 11:53:26 AM1/11/06
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"CyberTaz" <gener...@comcast.net> wrote in message
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I agree with CyberTaz. EMF and WMF are problematic files even in Windows.
They are similar to Pict files on a Mac. They contain varioius
"bastardized" components including vector/raster/font information, but the
slurry that the file becomes is anything but standard.

When I have to use them, they work acceptably, but I make sure that their
path is straight to paper or to PDF, never to another user who might have to
tolerate them. :-)

-Mark


Elliott Roper

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Jan 11, 2006, 12:27:40 PM1/11/06
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In article <ejusL#sFGHA...@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl>, mmmmark
<mdneely@_EXTRA_vcsd.com> wrote:

> "CyberTaz" <gener...@comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:1136995844.1...@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> > Let me rephrase...
> >
> > According to MS, WMF & EMF are _not supported_ graphics file formats in
> > MacWord. If you'd like to verify this, take a look in Word Help for
> > suppoted graphics formats. That doesn't mean that 'some' won't work,
> > but it also doesn't mean that _all_ will. IOW, the message you are
> > getting doesn't necessarily mean there is anything corrupt about the
> > file. As I said, I was able to open it in AI with no problem at all.
> >
> > EMF is an extensible graphics format & can be very fickle... not even
> > every EMF-compliant program on the Windows platform can handle _any_
> > EMF file it encounters. For more, see
> >
> > support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;320314
> >
> > Regards |:>)
> >
>
> I agree with CyberTaz. EMF and WMF are problematic files even in Windows.
> They are similar to Pict files on a Mac. They contain varioius
> "bastardized" components including vector/raster/font information, but the
> slurry that the file becomes is anything but standard.

Slurry? Excellent! I have been looking for a polite word for all three
of those formats.

I bet Microsoft were wishing they could say they don't support WMF in
Windows this week. ;-). I hear the vulnerability is alive and well in
Vista too.


>
> When I have to use them, they work acceptably, but I make sure that their
> path is straight to paper or to PDF, never to another user who might have to
> tolerate them. :-)

PDF is good. My short rule of thumb for graphics in Word is "No."

If you must, and expect someone else's Word to see it, get everything
absolutely right in an external program - size, colour, everything -
and then save it as jpg or tif. Import the picture from file into Word
and then *don't touch it*.. Never, never drag on a resize outline.
Never stick one in a text box. Never add a label. Never stick one in a
table. OK OK, I'm exaggerating, but honestly that whole mess is
incredibly fragile.

It is probably prudent to print your file as PDF and send one of those
too, so at least the poor recipient can see how much slurry her copy of
Word added to it.

You can relax that rule a little if you know the recipient and how she
deals with your documents. The only safe vector format is eps - for
very small values of safe.

Word's handling of graphics, when files are passed from user to user,
is, sadly, "unfit for purpose".

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Martynas Lelevicius

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Jan 12, 2006, 3:12:13 AM1/12/06
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Hi,

I am suspicious, so I checked Mac Word Help, and didn't find any mention
that EMF/WMF is not supported.
Contrariwise, help says:

Graphics file types you can use in documents

Any graphics file type supported by your version of QuickTime should be
supported by Microsoft Office, so you can insert almost any popular graphics
file type into your document. The following graphics file types are
supported:
. Windows Bitmap (BMP)
. Compressed Macintosh PICT (PCZ)
. Compressed Windows Enhanced Metafile (EMZ)
. Compressed Windows Metafile (WMZ)
. Encapsulated PostScript File (EPSF, EPS)
. Enhanced Windows Metafile (EMF)
. FlashPix (FPix, FPX)
. Graphics Interchange Format (GIF)
. Joint Photographic Experts Group (JPEG, JFIF, JP2)
. Macintosh Picture (PICT)
. Macintosh Paint (PNTG)
. Portable Document Format (PDF)
. Photoshop Document (PSD, 8BPS)
. Portable Network Graphics (PNG)
. QuickTime Image Format (QTIF)
. Silicon Graphics Incorporated (SGI)
. Tagged Image File Format (TIFF)
. Targa (TGA, TPIC)
. Windows Metafile (WMF)

IMHO my EMF contains something that is not tolerated by Mac Word.

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