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TPH

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Jan 28, 2003, 9:55:07 AM1/28/03
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Any suggestions, links, or ideas? I have a word document that I can't
open because I forgot/lost my password. Any insight is appreciated.

John McGhie [MVP]

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Jan 28, 2003, 11:50:18 AM1/28/03
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If you won't tell us which version of Word you have, we cannot answer


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from "TPH" <roger...@earthlink.net> on 28/1/03 6:55 AM:

> Any suggestions, links, or ideas? I have a word document that I can't
> open because I forgot/lost my password. Any insight is appreciated.

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tph

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Jan 28, 2003, 8:08:48 PM1/28/03
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It's 2001. I think I found the answer via
http://www.password-find.com/
Thanks.

>-----Original Message-----
>If you won't tell us which version of Word you have, we
cannot answer
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>from "TPH" <roger...@earthlink.net> on 28/1/03 6:55 AM:
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>> Any suggestions, links, or ideas? I have a word
document that I can't
>> open because I forgot/lost my password. Any insight is
appreciated.
>
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John McGhie [MVP]

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Jan 28, 2003, 11:58:55 PM1/28/03
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Ewww.... That's what I was afraid of. The later versions of Word use the
password as part of the key to encrypt the text of the document. You are
unlikely to find a computer fast enough to recover a password longer than
three letters in our lifetime.

Of course, if you are entirely comfortable giving your credit-card details
to someone who cracks passwords for a living, you can let them try.
Personally, I would make sure they agree not to charge you unless they
succeed, because none of them ever seem to :-)

Cheers


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from "tph" <roger...@earthlink.net> on 28/1/03 5:08 PM:

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TPH

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Jan 29, 2003, 10:52:10 AM1/29/03
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They take payments through Paypal. And they refund the 25 bucks if
they don't crack it. I hope there aren't people out there as stupid
as you suggest.


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John McGhie [MVP]

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Jan 29, 2003, 12:26:21 PM1/29/03
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{Grin} Please let me know if they succeed :-) It will be the first time I
have heard of any of these firms actually cracking one :-)

Cheers

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Phillip M. Jones, C.E.T.

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Jan 29, 2003, 1:15:48 PM1/29/03
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Hey! Maybe they use a couple of Cray Super computers to do the job.

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Jan 29, 2003, 1:14:34 PM1/29/03
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Have yo tried inserting your Systems Disk and trying to open the document.

In the future. How about writing down your password somewhere. <grin>

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John McGhie [MVP]

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Jan 29, 2003, 6:35:09 PM1/29/03
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For 25 bucks? Maybe not :-)

But in Word 98 and above, that's what they would need :-)

Cheers


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TPH

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Jan 30, 2003, 2:33:02 PM1/30/03
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THEY DID IT.

Dear Thomas,

Thank you for your document recovery request which has been successfully
completed.

The original password for your document could not be recovered, so we
decrypted the file instead (which has removed the password).

We attached the file which has been protected with a new password to keep
your
data confidential. You can open the file with the new
password
and resave with your own password if required.

We securely delete all documents after 7 days to protect your privacy, so
please contact me in the meantime should you have any queries or problems.

Thank you very much for choosing Password-find.com, and we look forward to
working with you again in the future.

Regards,

Graeme Woods
www.password-find.com


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Beth Rosengard

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Jan 30, 2003, 3:57:45 PM1/30/03
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Hi Thomas,

That's great, but I'm curious about how they did it. Do you remember if the
original password was a word that might have been in the dictionary? And do
you know how long it was; in other words, any chance it had less than five
letters in it?

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Doug

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Jan 30, 2003, 4:55:53 PM1/30/03
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On 1/30/03 11:33 AM, in article
eb0aecca.03013...@posting.google.com, "TPH"
<roger...@earthlink.net> wrote:

> THEY DID IT.


Not sure if this is good new or bad news for the rest of us. :-)

Do you think they were able to do it because you had used a relatively
simple and ineffective password? Or, an old/weaker version of Word?

What does this tell us about Word's security?

If one wanted to encrypt a Word file that couldn't be cracked, is that even
doable on the Mac?

I just wish I had a thought or two that were worth protecting! :-)

Doug

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John McGhie [MVP]

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Jan 30, 2003, 5:16:08 PM1/30/03
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{Giggle} No, they didn't :-) If they had done it, they would be able to
tell you what the password was :-)

But I would love to know how they decrypted it: I wonder if they used a
binary editor to cut the top off your file and paste in the top of a file to
which they already know the password?

Check that they didn't lose any data in this operation :-)

But thank you for getting back to me: this is the very first time I have
seen one of these companies actually succeed in getting any text out of the
file. Remind me to tell Microsoft it's time to go up from 40-bit to 512-bit
encryption :-)

Cheers

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John McGhie [MVP]

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Jan 30, 2003, 6:31:26 PM1/30/03
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Hi Doug:

Word's current password encryption is only 40-bit because that's all the old
export laws would allow to be exported from the USA. People who wanted more
use PGP (Look for it on the internet...) which is free and enables you to go
up to 1,024-bit encryption. PGP was made outside the USA, so the export
laws had no effect. Consequently, the US government relaxed the laws. I
believe Word XP now does 128-bit encryption out of the box, and I understand
that there's a move on to add 512-bit tripple-DES encryption for drug
dealers :-)

You're right, I have no thoughts worth that level of protection.

Cheers


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Phillip M. Jones, C.E.T.

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Feb 1, 2003, 2:55:21 PM2/1/03
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40 Bit??

Even keychain uses 128 bit.

John McGhie [MVP]

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Feb 1, 2003, 8:18:32 PM2/1/03
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Read my other post... US Export laws prevented the export of anything
greater than 40 bit when Word was designed.


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On Tuesday, January 28, 2003 6:55:08 PM UTC+4, TPH wrote:
> Any suggestions, links, or ideas? I have a word document that I can't
> open because I forgot/lost my password. Any insight is appreciated.

Your Word document will become corrupted when your computer infects a virus, or your hard drive gets damaged, or Word program become insatiable. Whatever the reason is, if you have a corrupt Word file you need to restore it before you can access the content in the file. Microsoft Word features a built-in Auto Recover function to recover unsaved Word. Word program saves your document every 10 minutes by default. Therefore, you can recover the work you created 10 minutes ago. You are suggested to set the automatic save every minute or two, because you can type a lot of information within 10 minutes.
Step 1: After interruption, launch Microsoft Word. A prompt may present you with any unsaved data. Open these documents, you should find the file on which you previously work on before the interruption. Save it into another document. If the prompt does not appear, go to step 2.
Step 2: Go to "Tool"->"Options"->"File Location". Check if there is text next to "AutoRecover Files". This will be the location of any unsaved documents that were unexpected closed.
Step 3: Try some recovery tool. You may try recovery toolbox for Word or something else. There is more information about your problem. http://www.word.recoverytoolbox.com/

Alex

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Dec 12, 2014, 8:00:43 AM12/12/14
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On Tuesday, January 28, 2003 5:55:08 PM UTC+3, TPH wrote:
> Any suggestions, links, or ideas? I have a word document that I can't
> open because I forgot/lost my password. Any insight is appreciated.

There are very few Password Recovery utilities for MAC on the market.
Azaze Password Recovery is one of the most stable solutions
http://recovery.azaze.com/en/download/download-mac
Fully compatible with Yosemite and Mavericks

yahya.marwa...@gmail.com

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