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mtev...@officeformac.com

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Mar 3, 2010, 7:41:37 PM3/3/10
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Version: 2008 Operating System: Mac OS X 10.6 (Snow Leopard) Processor: Intel how do I type the apple and command symbols when I do not find them in the special characters?

thanks for any help.

John McGhie

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Mar 3, 2010, 11:12:51 PM3/3/10
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Use the Character Viewer (see the OS X Help...)

The trick is to know what the character names are in Unicode, so you can
search for them.

The "command" symbol ⌘ is officially the "Place of Interest" sign, in the MS
Gothic font as Unicode character 2318.

The "Apple" logo  is a much greater challenge. The Unicode code for the
Apple symbol is 63743 (hexadecimal F8FF) but sadly, they defined it in the
"private use area" of Unicode.

"Private use" means "the font designer can put anything they like in here,
the users are on their own." It should come as no surprise that on Macs,
Unicode 63743 often (not always!) shows up as an Apple logo. In some fonts,
it will appear as the Windows logo (so be careful...) while in others, it
will be a blank square.

You can type it as Option + Shift + k, and if you are looking at this on a
Mac, you will see an Apple. If you set the FONT (for just that character!)
to Baskerville Old Face, and your recipients have installed the fonts that
came with their Microsoft software, chances are they will see an Apple Logo
too.

If you fiddle around some more, you may find another font that is both
common to Apple OS X and Windows, and has the character F8FF defined as an
Apple Logo :-)

Hope this helps


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CyberTaz

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Mar 4, 2010, 6:32:12 AM3/4/10
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Another Option: You'll find them all if you use the Insert Object palette of
the Toolbox. They're in the Symbols ( � ) sub-palette. They're inserted in
Lucida Grande font which is supplied on both the Windows & Mac systems.

HTH |:>)
Bob Jones
[MVP] Office:Mac

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mtev...@officeformac.com

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Mar 4, 2010, 11:02:02 AM3/4/10
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Thanks for all the help. I appreciate it. This is a great example of how to make things complicated.

> Use the Character Viewer (see the OS X Help...)
>
> The trick is to know what the character names are in Unicode, so you can
> search for them.
>
> The "command" symbol &#8984; is officially the "Place of Interest" sign, in the MS
> Gothic font as Unicode character 2318.
>
> The "Apple" logo &#63743; is a much greater challenge. The Unicode code for the
> Apple symbol is 63743 (hexadecimal F8FF) but sadly, they defined it in the
> "private use area" of Unicode.
>
> "Private use" means "the font designer can put anything they like in here,
> the users are on their own." It should come as no surprise that on Macs,
> Unicode 63743 often (not always!) shows up as an Apple logo. In some fonts,
> it will appear as the Windows logo (so be careful...) while in others, it
> will be a blank square.
>
> You can type it as Option + Shift + k, and if you are looking at this on a
> Mac, you will see an Apple. If you set the FONT (for just that character!)
> to Baskerville Old Face, and your recipients have installed the fonts that
> came with their Microsoft software, chances are they will see an Apple Logo
> too.
>
> If you fiddle around some more, you may find another font that is both
> common to Apple OS X and Windows, and has the character F8FF defined as an
> Apple Logo :-)
>
> Hope this helps
>
>
> On 4/03/10 11:41 AM, in article 59bb3...@webcrossing.JaKIaxP2ac0,

John McGhie

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Mar 4, 2010, 2:46:16 PM3/4/10
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Hmmm... I specifically avoided mentioning Lucida Grande, because when I
checked in Word 2010 it didn't have it :-)

That's not an issue for almost any other character we could think about.
But the Apple Logo is in the Unicode Private Use Area, which means you have
to specify the font, and the recipient must have the font you specify, or
you will get a somewhat random result cross-platform.

Cheers


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Rob Schneider

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Mar 5, 2010, 4:48:48 AM3/5/10
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If we didn't have this complexity (much of it completely hidden to real
people) we would not have these computers. the complexity behind the
scene is so complicated that it's hard to distinguish it from magic.
it's a wonder they work at all.


--rms

www.rmschneider.com

CyberTaz

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Mar 5, 2010, 12:03:13 PM3/5/10
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AFAIK, though, there is no "2010" as yet, there is only the 2010 Beta :-) If
I may paraphrase a rather wise Australian fellow I've come to know rather
well, "Anyone who uses Beta software for production work is a fool." ;-)

Regards |:>)


Bob Jones
[MVP] Office:Mac

On 3/4/10 2:46 PM, in article C7B65938.5E94%jo...@mcghie.name, "John McGhie"
<jo...@mcghie.name> wrote:

> Hmmm... I specifically avoided mentioning Lucida Grande, because when I
> checked in Word 2010 it didn't have it :-)
>
> That's not an issue for almost any other character we could think about.
> But the Apple Logo is in the Unicode Private Use Area, which means you have
> to specify the font, and the recipient must have the font you specify, or
> you will get a somewhat random result cross-platform.
>
> Cheers
>
>
> On 4/03/10 10:32 PM, in article C7B5046C.5BD5D%onlygen...@com.cast.net,
> "Bob Jones" <onlygen...@com.cast.net> wrote:
>
>> Another Option: You'll find them all if you use the Insert Object palette of
>> the Toolbox. They're in the Symbols ( � ) sub-palette. They're inserted in
>> Lucida Grande font which is supplied on both the Windows & Mac systems.
>>
>> HTH |:>)
>> Bob Jones
>> [MVP] Office:Mac
>>
>>
>>
>> On 3/3/10 7:41 PM, in article 59bb3...@webcrossing.JaKIaxP2ac0,

John McGhie

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Mar 5, 2010, 3:41:52 PM3/5/10
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I'm ON the Beta, and it's the "Release Candidate" (i.e. excepting bug fixes,
that's what we're going to get). So I suspect Lucida Grande will not be on
its playlist when it arrives.

On the other hand, this activity is a) a great test of software, and b) not
"production". If it were "production" it would produce money, and as I
guess you noticed, it doesn't :-)

Cheers


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