Can't access newsgroups other than Microsoft
Bijan
Sorry about cross posting, but after reading my question you'll see why it
was necessary.
Where I live, the only newsgroup which I can access is on Microsoft's
server; no other newsgroups are offered thru any ISPs (because of POLITIKAL
considerations).
I know that Google offers browser-based newsgroup review and posting, but
its interface is far from the convenience of a traditional newsreader such
as Windows Mail, Outlook Express etc.
Does anyone know of a way to get around this and access a server by a
something like Windows Mail?
Please post a reply and don't respond by email.
Thank you,
Bijan
Bruce Hagen
http://freenews.maxbaud.net/
Find a news server at:
http://www.newzbot.com/
Eternal September:
http://www.eternal-september.org/
--
Bruce Hagen
MS-MVP [Mail]
Imperial Beach, CA
"Bijan" <n...@email.com> wrote in message
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Ken Blake, MVP
> Hi,
>
> Sorry about cross posting, but after reading my question you'll see why it
> was necessary.
>
> Where I live, the only newsgroup which I can access is on Microsoft's
> server; no other newsgroups are offered thru any ISPs (because of POLITIKAL
> considerations).
You don't need a news server offered by your ISP. There are lots of
other news servers available to you--some for a charge and some for
free. Here's a well-known and very good free one that I use:
news.eternal-september.org
Alternatively, do a web search, and find others to choose from.
> > I know that Google offers browser-based newsgroup review and posting, but
> its interface is far from the convenience of a traditional newsreader such
> as Windows Mail, Outlook Express etc.
>
> Does anyone know of a way to get around this and access a server by a
> something like Windows Mail?
Windows Mail, or whatever newsreader you use, is completely
irrelevant. Any newsreader can access any of the news servers (or
several of them at once).
--
Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP (Windows Desktop Experience) since 2003
Please Reply to the Newsgroup
Billns
I use Thunderbird to access Microsoft, OpenOffice, Mozilla, and AIOE
servers. Works just fine. Verizon, my ISP, dropped .alt groups a year or
so ago and later dropped all newsgroups.
Bill
Brian
Thank you for all of you who took the time to reply. I hadn't used Usenet
for well over a decade!
Per instructions, I registered with eternal.September.org and set up Windows
mail. It works wonderful with the snail dial up account I have.
Thank you all,
"Billns" <bil...@nsverizon.net> wrote in message
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Patrick Keenan
Many ISPs have dropped Usenet services, and most say that it's for legal
reasons (I suppose this can be described as "political". The idea is that
the easiest way to avoid potential liability for things such as hosting a
group that somehow gets kiddie porn, is to not carry the groups at all. In
my area, the big ISPs dropped them nearly four years ago. Not that this
was much of a loss, because they'd been showing no interest in maintaining
the servers anyway.
The way around this is to find 3rd party Usenet services. You can get
quite reasonable service for about $5 - $8/ month. there are free servers,
but group count varies wildly, many do not allow posting, and performance
can be an issue.
Google "Usenet Servers" and "Free Usenet Servers".
HTH
-pk
Ken Blake, MVP
wrote:
> Many ISPs have dropped Usenet services, and most say that it's for legal
> reasons (I suppose this can be described as "political". The idea is that
> the easiest way to avoid potential liability for things such as hosting a
> group that somehow gets kiddie porn, is to not carry the groups at all. In
> my area, the big ISPs dropped them nearly four years ago. Not that this
> was much of a loss, because they'd been showing no interest in maintaining
> the servers anyway.
>
> The way around this is to find 3rd party Usenet services. You can get
> quite reasonable service for about $5 - $8/ month. there are free servers,
> but group count varies wildly, many do not allow posting, and performance
> can be an issue.
Everything you say above is true, but I'll mention
news.eternal-september.org again. I find it to be excellent as well as
free. I have no performance problems with it, it allows posting, and
it has all the newsgroups that I want.
Steven L.
"Ken Blake, MVP" <kbl...@this.is.an.invalid.domain> wrote in message
news:egm2p5p5dk7a8agcn...@4ax.com:
> On Fri, 5 Mar 2010 20:10:26 +0330, "Bijan" <n...@email.com> wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > Sorry about cross posting, but after reading my question you'll see why it
> > was necessary.
> >
> > Where I live, the only newsgroup which I can access is on Microsoft's
> > server; no other newsgroups are offered thru any ISPs (because of POLITIKAL
> > considerations).
>
>
> You don't need a news server offered by your ISP. There are lots of
> other news servers available to you--some for a charge and some for
> free. Here's a well-known and very good free one that I use:
> news.eternal-september.org
Hmm, curious name.
Is "September" some kind of inside joke?
-- Steven L.
Gene E. Bloch
No, "Eternal September" is. Something to do with what happens every
September when new students get online.
I have forgotten the details, but I recall that I learned them a few
months ago on Google or Wikipedia.
--
Gene E. Bloch letters0x40blochg0x2Ecom
Ken Blake, MVP
Beats me. I don't know why they chose that name.
Stan Starinski
FORTUNATELY, it's not as bad as you think.
There're quite a few free NNTP Servers which carry tens of thousands
Newsgroups each.
One example:
ETERNALSEPTEMBER.ORG
Their server address is:
news.eternal-september.org
Maybe website is similar www.eternal-september.org but if not, Google/Bing
for it
Except the problem recently too many organizations assumed using this Geek's
term so make sure it is that Eternal September which is a Newsgroups server,
and not somethign else.
It was born in Germany, but now I see a U.K site also
Doesn't matter - we use that in any country, I am in USA.
One thing to remember:
you can post after you register.
it's NOT made clear on Eternal September website, and some newbies start
complaining, "gee it's only for reading, not posting".
if it was so, its worth would be Null.
But it's worth is great because it's both read+write and carries so many
Newsgroups that frankly it's equal or MORE (!) THAN MY FORMER ISP USED TO
OFFER, AND I HAD TO PAY FOR IT, WHILE ETERNAL SEPTEMBER IS FREE.
Two thumbs up for their free services.
Just remember - NO binaries, no spa*, no illega activities - be an honest
man, and this server will serve you well.
Some Guy
> Everything you say above is true, but I'll mention
> news.eternal-september.org again. I find it to be excellent as well
> as free.
I've been using nntp.aioe.org for 3 or 4 years now, and have found it to
be pretty reliable (but with some periods of extended downtime when the
server crashes or is relocated to a different ISP).
Given that eternal-september needs registration (and AIOE doesn't), I'm
curious as to why some of you prefer or think that eternal-september is
a better server compared to aioe.org.
News Guy
> OK. I found out from Google search where that name comes from.
>
> In September 1993, AOL offered gateway access to Usenet.
I heard it had something to do with students returing to college every
September, resulting in a new flood of garbage being posted to usenet.
Back when college / university students actually knew what usenet was
that is.
Gene E. Bloch
kraut
Maybe for the reasons you just stated above?!?!?
"with some periods of extended downtime when the
server crashes or is relocated to a different ISP"
I been using eternal-september for some time now and it has run great
and other then a name change from Motzarella.org to eternal-september
it has been same place and great service since I joined them.