What is X-Newsreader: Microsoft Windows Live Mail?
Some Guy
X-Newsreader: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 14.0.8089.726
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V14.0.8089.72
What usenet client or posting agent was used?
JAT
It means that Client is Windows Live Mail
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Some Guy
> It means that it is best read on Microsoft Windows Live Mail .
JAT wrote:
> It means that Client is Windows Live Mail
If a post is made via news.aioe.org, then can you explain how the
following two lines would appear in the header:
X-Newsreader: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 14.0.8089.726
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V14.0.8089.72
What is "Windows Live Mail" in the above context?
Is it an application program running on the posters computer?
Some Guy
> Some Guy wrote:
> Newsgroups: alt.free.newsservers, alt.comp.software.newsreaders,
> microsoft.public.internet.news.reader.software
>
> What is the point of your crossposting this question to 3
> different groups?
Mike, when are you going to learn that usenet was designed with the
anticipation that given thousands of newsgroups, there couls be
cross-group commonality that makes it efficient to cross-post, both for
the poster and the reader.
You belong to a minority of usenet users who thinks that there is always
only one good/best group to post something to, and the cross-posting
mechanism built into NNTP should never be used.
> My reply isn't posted to those 3 groups, and my reply isn't even
> about WLM.
Am I supposed to congradulate you that you decided to take this thread
on a tangent and by doing so you did not cross-post it to the original
distribution?
Why exactly did you post your vaccuous reply?
> When you create a new message question thread, you should post it
> to one best group only
You get a big plonk on this one buddy.
Read up on your usenet etiquette.
Cross-posting is logical and efficient.
David W. Hodgins
> If a post is made via news.aioe.org, then can you explain how the
> following two lines would appear in the header:
> X-Newsreader: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 14.0.8089.726
> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V14.0.8089.72
The poster is running windows live mail, on his/her computer.
> What is "Windows Live Mail" in the above context?
> Is it an application program running on the posters computer?
Yes. See ...
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=56883de5-2024-4631-806e-757693072a1c&displaylang=en
Regards, Dave Hodgins
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Mike Easter
> Mike Easter wrote:
>> When you create a new message question thread, you should post it
>> to one best group only
> Cross-posting is logical and efficient.
I suspect that you are crossposting 'blindly' -- that you don't even
read all of the groups you post into, such as the MS group you posted to
and where I'm replying this, microsoft.public.internet.news.reader.software
The MS group you posted to is not even carried on the msnews server
anymore and conversely it is not carried by some significant number of
news admins on their servers.
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chuckcar
MS's "replacement" for outhouse express.
BTW pick your groups more carefully by reading posts to make sure you are
sending to the appropriate group. Also people will appreciated it if you
use a follow-up to header.
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Some Guy
> > X-Newsreader: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 14.0.8089.726
> > X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V14.0.8089.72
> >
> > What usenet client or posting agent was used?
>
> MS's "replacement" for outhouse express.
I thought that "Windows Live" mail was a rebranding for hotmail. I
guess not.
As far as it being a replacement for OE, according to wikipedia this
thing has been around since 2007, but I've never heard of it before.
> BTW pick your groups more carefully by reading posts to make sure
> you are sending to the appropriate group.
The three groups I chose were based on a combination of the name of the
group and the traffic / depth of knowledge perceived in those groups.
All three are on-topic as far as I'm concerned.
> Also people will appreciated it if you use a follow-up to header.
I don't see why they would.
Setting a followup to an obscure (but nonetheless on-topic) group means
that the thread quickly dies, and people in the more active groups never
see the whole conversation.
I don't read two of the three groups that I posted this to.
Some Guy
> > I don't read two of the three groups that I posted this to.
>
> Ridiculous. Idiotic crossposting.
Why?
You have a strange concept as to how to use usenet.
I believe that my question regarding the identity of a particular usenet
user-agent is germain to
- alt.free.newsservers
- alt.comp.software.newsreaders
- microsoft.public.internet.news.reader.software
If I was not a regular reader of any of those, then I would choose one
of them (the most active one probably) and add them to my group list.
But I would still cross-post the question to all three.
So let's say that I'm already a some-what regular reader of
alt.free.newsservers. Any reader of one of the other two groups (but
who isin't a reader of a.f.n) would rightfully or correctly reply to all
three (ie - to maintain the original distribution) so that he would
garantee that I would see the reply.
> Don't you realize that many people don't 'normally' post into
> groups they don't read?
I don't normally ask questions about usenet user-agents. But when I do,
I want the question to be seen by as many relavent newsgroups as
possible. That doesn't mean I must, or even should, be a regular
reader of all those groups. Yes, I should be a regular reader (even
just temporarily) of one of them.
> People like me delete any of the groups you've cross-posted
> to which I don't read
Do I care?
People like you like to bitch and complain about how others use usenet
and take discussions and railroad them off on a tangent rather than be a
useful contributor to the original thread.
But in any case, I have my answer.
Mircosoft Windows Live Mail is not a re-branding of Microsoft's Hotmail
web-based mail interface.
Windows Live Mail is a replacement for OE that I've never heard of
before. I still don't know if it's the default mail client for any
particular version of Windoze or not.
Some Guy
> Is he/she/it a Troll....!!??
Look up the definition of usenet Troll and let me know.
(another fool who throws around the word "troll" like they're a fucking
expert)
Some of you people should learn that someone that digs in their heels on
one side of an argument that they didn't start usually doesn't fit the
definition of troll.
Had enough fun yet playing around with the follow-up line you dink?
Alan Larsson
> Mike Easter wrote:
> before. I still don't know if it's the default mail client for any
> particular version of Windoze or not.
Window Mail was the OE replacement in Vista.
Windows LiveMail is the OE replacement intended for Windows 7.
It is not included in any version, and must be downloaded seperatly.
Whiskers
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> I don't read two of the three groups that I posted this to.
That's very rude! Do you stand in a corridor and shout, but listen only
to one conversation?
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Some Guy
> > I don't read two of the three groups that I posted this to.
>
> That's very rude! Do you stand in a corridor and shout, but
> listen only to one conversation?
You just don't get it.
It's the *same* conversation. It's the same thread.
Some Guy
> > You just don't get it.
> >
> > It's the *same* conversation. It's the same thread.
>
> You mean you think you get to tell everyone/anyone else who replies
> in the thread which groups they should post to?
The vast majority of the time, people don't look at or change the
distribution. So it's a non-issue. Except with you, apparently.
> You can tell *me* that I should crosspost to 2 other groups I
> don't read?
I'm not telling you to do anything. You have a point of view about
cross-posting and when to use it, and I have a different view. I've
supported my view with logic and use-case scenarios, and you support
your POV with emotion and hyperbole.
> Are you nuts?
You want to think that I am, by claiming I've said things that I didn't.
If you had anthing constructive or useful to say in answer to my
original question, you could have done so, and you could have posted
only to a.f.n, and I wouldn't have said a damn thing about your
modification of the distribution.
But you want to make a federal case out of it. Tell me that's not being
trollish.
Some Guy
> WTF do you think it is?
Why don't you read the rest of the thread, before posting a useless
garbage comment like that?
Obviously you don't know either, or you would have posted an answer,
instead of a garbage comment.
You get a plonk too for this.
chuckcar
> chuckcar wrote:
>
>> > X-Newsreader: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 14.0.8089.726
>> > X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V14.0.8089.72
>> >
>> > What usenet client or posting agent was used?
>>
>> MS's "replacement" for outhouse express.
>
> I thought that "Windows Live" mail was a rebranding for hotmail. I
> guess not.
>
MS has scrawed up the names. Live Mail/Windows Mail/Windows Live mail can
all reasonably be used for either. A real foul-up.
> As far as it being a replacement for OE, according to wikipedia this
> thing has been around since 2007, but I've never heard of it before.
>
>> BTW pick your groups more carefully by reading posts to make sure
>> you are sending to the appropriate group.
>
> The three groups I chose were based on a combination of the name of the
> group and the traffic / depth of knowledge perceived in those groups.
>
> All three are on-topic as far as I'm concerned.
>
So then what above has anything to do with free news servers?
>> Also people will appreciated it if you use a follow-up to header.
>
> I don't see why they would.
>
> Setting a followup to an obscure (but nonetheless on-topic) group means
> that the thread quickly dies, and people in the more active groups never
> see the whole conversation.
>
> I don't read two of the three groups that I posted this to.
>
That's the reason you *do* use one. You clearly don't know what they're for
in the first place.