Re: looking for "xmove"
Richard Bonner
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blockquote cite="mid:hotruf$2h8l$1...@adenine.netfront.net" type="cite"
phtml is not welcome in all technical groups. /p
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pFalse. You don't understand Usenet correctly. The distinction in
Usenet is and always has been between text and embinaries/em, with
hyperemtext/em falling on the emtext/em side of that
division. It is binaries, not text, that are unwelcome in text
newsgroups. Binaries are MIME body part types like codeaudio/*/code,
codevideo/*/code, and codeimage/*/code. The codetext/*/code
body part types are, as the designation states, text./p
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pI personally prefer reading code in in a fixed pitch font. /p
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p... which is of course what your reader gives you when someone wraps
xyr code in a code<code>/code or code<pre>/code
element, even when the message is served up by a WWW interface such as
Google Groups. Whereas the latter, and newsreaders if so configured,
serve up messages emwithout/em such markup, to explicitly specify
code or pre-fomatted elements, in variable-width fonts. So you're
foolishly cutting your own nose off despite your own face, here./p
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Richard Bonner
Al Dunbar
so used the format command in my newsreader to convert the post I am
responding to to text. Unfortunately, this removed some of the layout
aspects, making it difficult to see the context of the various replies...
"Jonathan de Boyne Pollard" <J.deBoynePoll...@NTLWorld.COM> wrote
in message
news:IU.D20100401.T...@J.de.Boyne.Pollard.localhost...
Todd: html is not welcome in all technical groups.
Jonathan: False. You don't understand Usenet correctly.
Al: And you apparently do not understand the phrase "not welcome".
Jonathan: The distinction in Usenet is and always has been between text and
binaries,
Al: I seem to recall using usenet newsgroups before I ever heard of HTML.
Perhaps at the time of the various standards supporting usenet the
distinction was between text and binaries, as most readers (IIRC) were text
based (in the old meaning of the term). And, again IIRC, text was defined as
a stream of characters in a fixed pitch font of maximum line length.
Jonathan: with hypertext falling on the text side of that division.
Al: in which RFC is this stated, or is this your opinion? I agree that HTML
code normally consists of only text characters. But the implied
interpretation of the characters is something other than just displaying
each one literally.
My newsreader allows me to format replies in one of two ways: "plain text"
and "rich text (HTML)". Fortunately it can render HTML in a somewhat
readable manner, but this is not universal to all newsgroup readers, some of
which understand only plain text.
Jonathan: It is binaries, not text, that are unwelcome in text newsgroups.
Al: nobody has said that text is unwelcome, just certain formats in which
some "textual" characters are interpreted as something other than their
normal "text" interpretation.
Todd: I personally prefer reading code in in a fixed pitch font.
Jonathan: ... which is of course what your reader gives you when someone
wraps xyr code in a <code> or <pre> element, even when the message is served
up by a WWW interface such as Google Groups. Whereas the latter, and
newsreaders if so configured, serve up messages without such markup, to
explicitly specify code or pre-fomatted elements, in variable-width fonts.
So you're foolishly cutting your own nose off despite your own face, here.
Al: I think the idea here is that some of us prefer to see simple,
straight-forward "plain" text not containing any formatting information
beyond end-of-line sequences, because we are more interested in content than
presentation.
/Al
Shmuel Metz
at 12:26 PM, "Al Dunbar" <alan...@hotmail.com> said:
>Al: I think the idea here is that some of us prefer to see simple,
>straight-forward "plain" text not containing any formatting information
>beyond end-of-line sequences, because we are more interested in content
>than presentation.
And some of us have our news clients configured to disable presentation of
HTML, for security reasons. We see <PRE> as a literal Less Than, P, R, E,
Greater Than.
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