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Mac

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Mar 1, 1999, 3:00:00 AM3/1/99
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Are the ones listed in Netmeeting the only ILS servers around? Or are there
more? and if so, how does one connect to them?

Thanks.

--
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If you need me outside of work hours
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jeff m.

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Mar 1, 1999, 3:00:00 AM3/1/99
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Try here... http://www.netmeet.net/green.htm
It's quite a large list of ILS servers. Also, download a program called
"NetMeeting Super Enhancer", written by "Danny" (sorry, can't remember the
last name) whom also posts here. It allows one to add or subtract ILS
servers for use in NM.
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Jenkins Jones

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Mar 2, 1999, 3:00:00 AM3/2/99
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I found this cool ILS scanner thing at http://www.chatpal.com . It makes
sure they are all active and puts them in different categories. It seems to
work pretty well.

Jenkins

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Danny Falkov

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Mar 7, 1999, 3:00:00 AM3/7/99
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Have you check out http://www.netmeet.net?
Good luck,
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Danny Falkov
df...@cornell.edu
Webmaster @ http://www.netmeet.net


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Bob

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Mar 7, 1999, 3:00:00 AM3/7/99
to Mac
Hello To All
Would there be any reason that no one can call into a NETCOM subscriber
running Netmeeting 2.1 using the uls.populus.net server?? I tried this
on
two computers running two separate NETCOM accounts. I can call anyone.
And anyone can call me IF they use my direct IP address and call me
without going through the uls server. If THEY try to call ME it tells
the sender i am not using netmeeting. I am logged onto uls.populus.net
and it is verified by refreshing the speed dial screen. Any insight you
may give regarding this problem would be greatly appreciated.
Regards,
Bob S.


Brian Sullivan

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Mar 8, 1999, 3:00:00 AM3/8/99
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Bob <win9...@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
news:36E347E5...@ix.netcom.com...


It is possible you are registering in the ILS with an unreachable IP
address -- there are a number of scenarios that could cause this --
http://www.meetingbywire.com/Netmeeting101.htm outlines the scenarios
and some diagnostic strategies for this problem ( and some solutions
depending on the cause),

Brian Sullivan (mailto:bri...@meetingbywire.com)
Meeting by Wire (http://www.meetingbywire.com)

Bob

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Mar 8, 1999, 3:00:00 AM3/8/99
to Brian Sullivan
Dear Brian,
BULLSEYE !!!! Thanks so very much !!! I am probably the only guy in town
that has a coax cable running through the basement to my wife's computer.
That was the problem....i had TCP/IP for the 3com cards activated (obviously
to do file sharing with the other computer) in addition to TCP/IP for the
dial up adapter. I saw the note on your web site about this correlation. So
now Netmeeting people can call ME finally but i can't do a Network
Neighborhood with the other coputer until i re-activate TCP/IP on the
network card !! Thanks for helping me solve a problem that may have taken
days/weeks/months.

At work i have a similar problem with the corporate LAN connection to the
Internet. When I call someone on the T1 line, they can answer plus hear my
audio and see my video. But i cannot get audio or video from them NOR can
they call me. They also complain that there are two entries with my name on
the current call screen once the connection is made. We can however do
successful file transfers, chat and whiteboard. If I use a DUN on the same
computer, i get the audio and video from the other party. But they still
can't call me. I am under the belief that most of these problems are because
i am behind a firewall with a proxy server. I gave my network administrator
a port assignment chartr out of the Official Netmeeting Book. I bring up
this issue because it affects everyone under corporate control. I don't want
the corporate people to think that Netmeeting is a threat.

Again, thank you for taking the time to reply....
Regards,
Bob S.

Bob

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Mar 9, 1999, 3:00:00 AM3/9/99
to Brian Sullivan
I will try the Sygate product (which i downloaded the trial version) in the hopes
that when i connect the two computers back together, they will be able to be called
from other Netmeeting users (independently hopefully) over the single modem
connection to the Internet.

Again, your help was greatly appreciated on this end....
Regards,
Bob S

Brian Sullivan wrote:

> >>-----Original Message-----
> >>From: Bob [mailto:win9...@ix.netcom.com]
> >>Sent: March 8, 1999 11:53 PM
> >>To: Brian Sullivan
> >>Subject: Re: Can't Call NETCOM Subscribers Using uls.populus.net server
> >>
> >>
> >>Dear Brian,
> >>BULLSEYE !!!! Thanks so very much !!! I am probably the only guy in town
> >>that has a coax cable running through the basement to my wife's computer.
> >>That was the problem....i had TCP/IP for the 3com cards activated (obviously
> >>to do file sharing with the other computer) in addition to TCP/IP for the
> >>dial up adapter. I saw the note on your web site about this correlation. So
> >>now Netmeeting people can call ME finally but i can't do a Network
> >>Neighborhood with the other coputer until i re-activate TCP/IP on the
> >>network card !! Thanks for helping me solve a problem that may have taken
> >>days/weeks/months.
> >>
>

> Actually I think there are lots of people with small LANS ( especially ones like
> me that have cable modem hookups). BTW if you run Sygate (www.sygate.com) on the
> machine with the internet dial up both machines can use the dial up ( at the same
> time if they wish).


>
> >>At work i have a similar problem with the corporate LAN connection to the
> >>Internet. When I call someone on the T1 line, they can answer plus hear my
> >>audio and see my video. But i cannot get audio or video from them NOR can
> >>they call me. They also complain that there are two entries with my name on
> >>the current call screen once the connection is made. We can however do
> >>successful file transfers, chat and whiteboard. If I use a DUN on the same
> >>computer, i get the audio and video from the other party. But they still
> >>can't call me. I am under the belief that most of these problems are because
> >>i am behind a firewall with a proxy server. I gave my network administrator
> >>a port assignment chartr out of the Official Netmeeting Book. I bring up
> >>this issue because it affects everyone under corporate control. I don't want
> >>the corporate people to think that Netmeeting is a threat.
> >>
>

> Yes the double entry symptom is generally caused by a firewall/ proxy or NAT
> router. It may be solvable depending on the product used. Some firewall products
> are not configurable to handle this though so even if the corporate will is there
> you may not get NM to function.


Bob

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Mar 9, 1999, 3:00:00 AM3/9/99
to Brian Sullivan, sup...@sygate.com
Well i guess the best thing will be to leave it like it is (no NIC TCP/IP) and
re-activate it whenever i want the two computers hooked together (usually only for
backup purposes anyway). We have a modem in each computer and two phone lines. I just
thought it would be nice to have both computers in a netmeeting on one phone line and
have the other line free for incoming calls....

Brian Sullivan wrote:

> >>-----Original Message-----
> >>From: Bob [mailto:win9...@ix.netcom.com]
> >>Sent: March 9, 1999 9:42 PM
> >>To: Brian Sullivan
> >>Cc: sup...@sygate.com
> >>Subject: Re: Can't Call NETCOM Subscribers Using uls.populus.net server
> >>
> >>

> >>I will try the Sygate product (which i downloaded the trial version) in
> >>the hopes
> >>that when i connect the two computers back together, they will be able
> >>to be called
> >>from other Netmeeting users (independently hopefully) over the single modem
> >>connection to the Internet.
> >>
>

> I don't think that will work -- the modem machine or a machine behind the NAT can
> be configured to work but not both. But Sygate will let most normal net activities
> ( browser, news, mail ) work and with some tweaking ( and sometimes limitations)
> icq, netmeeting and most internet gaming.


Al @Home

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Mar 10, 1999, 3:00:00 AM3/10/99
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Bob,

I use SyGate to share cable modem access between two Windows 98 boxes and
one Windows 95 box. SyGate is advertised to work with NetMeeting, but, the
only thing I have NOT been able to use successfully, is NetMeeting from a
Windows 98 box on the inner private LAN. Like most NetMeeting users behind a
firewall or proxy server, I can send audio/video just fine, I just can not
receive audio/video from the remote party. NetMeeting running on the same
box as the SyGate server works fine, as expected, because it has a real IP
address viewable by the internet versus the private IP addresses inside on
my private LAN.

Still tweaking the SyGate applrule.cfg file when I get time....Maybe one
day...:-)

Al

Bob wrote in message <36E5DC01...@ix.netcom.com>...


>I will try the Sygate product (which i downloaded the trial version) in the
hopes
>that when i connect the two computers back together, they will be able to
be called
>from other Netmeeting users (independently hopefully) over the single modem
>connection to the Internet.
>

>Again, your help was greatly appreciated on this end....
>Regards,
>Bob S
>

>Brian Sullivan wrote:
>
>> >>-----Original Message-----
>> >>From: Bob [mailto:win9...@ix.netcom.com]

>> >>Sent: March 8, 1999 11:53 PM
>> >>To: Brian Sullivan

>> >>Subject: Re: Can't Call NETCOM Subscribers Using uls.populus.net server
>> >>
>> >>

Bob

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Mar 10, 1999, 3:00:00 AM3/10/99
to Al @Home, sup...@sygate.net
Thanks a bunch for the info Al......We are not worthy enough on Southeastern
Long Island to have cable modems for a couple more years. I plan on trying
Sygate with the two win95 machines tonight. Since i only have one LAN card
(using simply TCP/IP and NETBEUI as a standard Network Neighborhood), two win95
machines and one modem, do is stand a chance for proper operation of Netmeeting
calls received on both computers?

Again, thank you for your response.
Bob S

Al @Home

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Mar 10, 1999, 3:00:00 AM3/10/99
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Bob,

You will be able to use NetMeeting from the machine acting as the SyGate
server, i.e.. the one connected to the dial modem. You probably will NOT be
able to use NetMeeting, at least for audio/video conferencing, from any box
on the inner LAN. You will be able to send audio/video, but not receive. The
classic behind the firewall/proxy server symptom. SyGate advertises that it
is compatible with NetMeeting, but I have never been able to get it to work.
I have not tried applications sharing or whiteboard from an inner box, since
my major use is for Grandma seeing the Grandkids kind of thing...:-)

Good luck...SyGate is a nice package, easy to setup, it just does not
deliver, at least for me, the promised compatibility with NetMeeting from
the inner network. It does fine with surfing the internet, ICQ, email, etc.
from the inner network.

Al

Bob Sumner wrote in message <36E6CD53...@ix.netcom.com>...

Pete

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Mar 10, 1999, 3:00:00 AM3/10/99
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On Tue, 09 Mar 1999 21:42:09 -0500, Bob <win9...@ix.netcom.com>
wrote:

>I will try the Sygate product (which i downloaded the trial version) in the hopes
>that when i connect the two computers back together, they will be able to be called
>from other Netmeeting users (independently hopefully) over the single modem
>connection to the Internet.
>
>Again, your help was greatly appreciated on this end....
>Regards,
>Bob S
>

Try wingate it will work and its free for 2 users.
It also has much better support to do what you want.
Go to the help desk and it will show you how before you
download or install. I'm not with wingate I just got tired of sygate
and the lack of controls plus support.
www.wingate.com

Al @Work

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Mar 11, 1999, 3:00:00 AM3/11/99
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Pete,

Your saying you can do full blown NetMeetings from a computer on your inner
private LAN, using an address in the 192.168.0.X range, through the Wingate
proxy box to a remote user? You can receive audio/video from the remote
user? You can share apps and collaborate with the remote user? Inquiring
minds want to know.

Thanks...

Al

Pete wrote in message <36e78581.8169995@wingate>...

Bob

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Mar 13, 1999, 3:00:00 AM3/13/99
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Well I haven't heard anything for a few days now. Did Al and Pete disappear
into their own world and not tell us whether or not wingate really does work
perfectly with netmeeting on a LAN-with-one-modem configuration. Also, wingate
does not appear to be "free" after a visit to their site. Please let me know
what's going on gentlemen. As a note, the latest test i did at work on the
corporate LAN was to successfully call other computers on the corporate lan
using ils directory services.
Thanks,
Bob S

Robert Scoble

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Mar 14, 1999, 3:00:00 AM3/14/99
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Yup, that is pretty cool, but humans do the work just as well (if not
better).

My list at http://www.netmeet.net/green.htm is larger and has servers on it
that are good and checked by hand.

We're working on automatic scanning software to check the servers but we
have found that so far we don't really need it.

Anyway, I have more than 1000 visitors a day to my lists and I find that I
hear about any server that's down within a few minutes. My list is also more
complete because it was first and has the most traffic (by far).

--
Robert and Charlotte Scoble
http://www.netmeet.net (The NetMeeting Place)
http://www.vbits99.com (Conferences for Developers).

Manoj Dadia

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Mar 22, 1999, 3:00:00 AM3/22/99
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Hello Mac,

even I am facing the same problem kindly let me know if you get any replies.

Thanks and regards

Manoj

Jenkins Jones

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Mar 24, 1999, 3:00:00 AM3/24/99
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Try http://chatpal.com/netmeeting/ for a nice list.

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