Sun Java Update 7
Jo Ann
Can that update be installed on top of the old version 6, or does that version have to be removed first?
Peter
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Shenan Stanley
> Sun Java has released update 7.
>
> Can that update be installed on top of the old version 6, or does
> that version have to be removed first?
Peter wrote:
> I believe so but where are you seeing update 7?
Agreed.
I am curious as I cannot find "Java Runtime Environment Version 5.0 Update
7" anywhere.
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B.W.
not got an updated Java release? If so how do I get it?
TIA
B.W.
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David H. Lipman
| I believe so but where are you seeing update 7?
|
It is available but... the download server is "down" for scheduled maintenance.
http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.5.0/download.jsp
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Shenan Stanley
> Sun Java has released update 7.
>
> Can that update be installed on top of the old version 6, or does
> that version have to be removed first?
Peter wrote:
> I believe so but where are you seeing update 7?
David H. Lipman wrote:
> It is available but... the download server is "down" for scheduled
> maintenance.
>
> http://javashoplm.sun.com/ECom/docs/Welcome.jsp?StoreId=22&PartDetailId=jre-1.5.0_07-oth-JPR&SiteId=JSC&TransactionId=noreg
>
> http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.5.0/download.jsp
Thanks David!
Peter
1.5.0_06-b05
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Jo Ann
Sun Java has released update 7.
Can that update be installed on top of the old version 6, or does that version have to be removed first?
I would appreciate an answer to my question - as listed above. Here are the details regarding update 7.
Sun Java - Update 7
Release Notes:
http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.5.0/ReleaseNotes.html
Installation Instructions:
http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.5.0/jre/install-windows.html
Download J2SE Runtime Envireonment (JRE)
http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.5.0/download.jsp
Shenan Stanley
> Sun Java has released update 7.
>
> Can that update be installed on top of the old version 6, or does
> that version have to be removed first?
>
> I would appreciate an answer to my question - as listed above. Here
> are the details regarding update 7.
>
> Sun Java - Update 7
>
> Release Notes:
> http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.5.0/ReleaseNotes.html
>
> Installation Instructions:
> http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.5.0/jre/install-windows.html
>
> Download J2SE Runtime Envireonment (JRE)
> http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.5.0/download.jsp
Unless Sun has gone insane - it will update just like all the previous ones
and will update your current version happily.
However - since Sun's download page is down for maintenance:
"Notice: We're Offline for System Upgrades"
It is difficult to confirm.
Make a system restore point, install the update, test it. Works - report
back and let us know - since the rest of us have to wait for the download to
become available.
Frankster
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"Update" is a relative term. All the Sun Java "updates" I have installed
left the old version on the disk. It had to be removed using Add/Remove
programs. Not much of an "update" if you ask me. But, typical of Sun - Ah,
I remember those days supporting Solaris, and SunOS before that. Typical.
You'd think they would have learned something about user friendliness after
all these years :) LOL.
-Frank
Gary Smith
> In article <OJ1XueGg...@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl>, newsh...@gmail.com
> says...
> > Unless Sun has gone insane - it will update just like all the previous ones
> > and will update your current version happily.
> I've seen a number of instances where the older version are left in
> place and the newer ones install beside them, not replacing them.
Same here. I routinely uninstall the older version before installing the
newer one.
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Peter
http://www.java.com/en/download/index.jsp
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Larry
additional help. In my installed program list in Control Panel, I have three
J2SE Runtime Environment 5.0 Updates, 2,4 and 6. Also, I have two Java 2
Runtime Environments, SE v1.42_03 and _06. Am I to remove all of these, just
the three J2SE entries, or just the Java 2 Runtime Environment entries?
TIA
Larry
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Ted Zieglar
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http://www.java.com/en/download/faq/5000070400.xml
Tom
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Shenan Stanley
> Sun Java has released update 7.
>
> Can that update be installed on top of the old version 6, or does
> that version have to be removed first?
Ted Zieglar wrote:
> I would be surprised to learn that Sun did not include that
> information on their website.
Tom [Pepper] Willett wrote:
> Sun says to *not* remove previous versions:
> http://www.java.com/en/download/faq/5000070400.xml
Well, they actually recommend you keep the older version..
They do not state that "You should not remove it" <- only that "It is
recommended that you keep older versions of the JRE on your system."
They even state:
"If you are running low on disk space, you can uninstall older versions of
the JRE. To remove older versions of JRE, go to Windows Java Runtime
Environment uninstallation instructions page. <
http://www.java.com/en/download/help/5000010800.xml >"
On the page you gave.
After all - there are many people who start with a clean system and have
only the last version - because that is what they downloaded.
As it seems the installer is smart enough to "update" previous versions -
but not to remove the entries in the Add/Remove programs control panel.
However - I usually do not remove the older version - only install the
latest.
Frankster
Doens't matter.
-Frank
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David
update, I get the message that I have the latest version of java. Do I have
to go to the jave site to update?
David
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Alias
Same thing happens to me and I have the same question.
Alias
Tom [Pepper] Willett
The new version has still not been posted on their download page, nor via
the live update.
Someone posted the direct link to the new version in one of these newsgroups
earlier, and that's how I downloaded mine. Sorry, but I no longer have the
link.
Tom
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C A Upsdell
> Alias:
>
> The new version has still not been posted on their download page, nor via
> the live update.
> Someone posted the direct link to the new version in one of these newsgroups
> earlier, and that's how I downloaded mine. Sorry, but I no longer have the
> link.
I had no problem getting it from their download page, and that was two
hours ago, and I just checked now and it is still there.
Alias
> Alias:
>
> The new version has still not been posted on their download page, nor via
> the live update.
> Someone posted the direct link to the new version in one of these newsgroups
> earlier, and that's how I downloaded mine. Sorry, but I no longer have the
> link.
>
> Tom
I can wait.
Alias
Tom [Pepper] Willett
Tom
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C A Upsdell
> All I see on the download page is still v 6.
On http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.5.0/download.jsp ? I see v7 no problem!
Tom [Pepper] Willett
Tom
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Jo Ann
I decided not to remove version 6 before the installation and ended up with two entries in Control Panel (Add/Remove Programs), one for the old version 6 (119 mb) and one for the new version 7 (120 mb)
Removed old version 6 and now has only one entry for version 7. Everything works flawlessly.
Warning! The online install process gives you the choice of installing Google Toolbar and Google Desktop. They have the Google Toolbar checked, so be sure to remove the checkmark, if you don't want the Google Toolbar installed.
Jo Ann
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Tom
Don't add your own interpretations that do not mean what they say is
"recommended".
From the Sun Java link you provided:
"It is recommended that you keep older versions of the JRE on your system. "
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David H. Lipman
David H. Lipman
| All of them, especially the 1.42 ones.
|
Yepper -- v1.4.x have actively exploited vulnerabilities !
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Jo Ann wrote:
<snip>
ANONYMOUS
"Tom [Pepper] Willett" wrote:
>
> Sun says to *not* remove previous versions:
> http://www.java.com/en/download/faq/5000070400.xml
>
Not quite!! It says "There might be some applications or applets
written and tested against a specific version of the JRE." Only under
these circumstances you need not remove the older onces. It also says:
"If you are running low on disk space, you can uninstall older versions
of the JRE."
hth
David H. Lipman
| Not quite!! It says "There might be some applications or applets
| written and tested against a specific version of the JRE." Only under
| these circumstances you need not remove the older onces. It also says:
|
| "If you are running low on disk space, you can uninstall older versions
| of the JRE."
|
| hth
What is MORE important is the version relative to actively exploited vulnerabilities and
Sun's Feb. 7, 06 bulletin # 102171 "Security Vulnerabilities in the Java Runtime Environment
may Allow an Untrusted Applet to Elevate its Privileges"...
The Vundo Trojan is one example of of malware that exploits the above vulnerability.
http://sunsolve.sun.com/search/document.do?assetkey=1-26-102171-1
"Note: It is recommended that affected versions be removed from your system. For more
information, please see the installation notes on the respective java.sun.com download
pages."
C A Upsdell
> From: "Frank Saunders, MS-MVP OE" <franks...@mvps.org>
>
> | All of them, especially the 1.42 ones.
> |
>
> Yepper -- v1.4.x have actively exploited vulnerabilities !
Sun also has new updates for 1.3 and 1.4.
David H. Lipman
Which may be used *if* you are using a Java Application that is tied to a specific version
of Sun Java.
Bother@forgedpostsanonymous.unorg Cymbal Man Freq.
They both slow my IE6 to a crawl, when opening new IE windows.
It took 25 seconds just to get Google (set as homepage) to open up with the Java
Update 7 installed, (down from 2 minutes with the version 6 Java update, which
has since been uninstalled before putting in 7). Going from webpage to webpage
is OK as long as a new one isn't opened up in a separate window.
My machine is 350 Mhz, so maybe my results just wouldn't be noticeable on a
machine that runs 10X that fast (10% of 25 seconds is 2.5 seconds).
I'm gonna have to uninstall this Java Update 7 bloatware that overloads Explorer
for way too damn long.
David H. Lipman
|
| Unless !!
|
| Unless you have to test your delivered apps under all versions !!
Or you don't mind Trojans such as the Vundo which are actively exploiting the
vulnerabilities in the older and vulnerable versions.
http://sunsolve.sun.com/search/document.do?assetkey=1-26-102171-1
Jo Ann
Bug fixing is the reason for the update, not vulnerability - as you sem to indicate!
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David H. Lipman
| Where does it say that the old version 1.5.0_06 is vulnerable to Trojans such as Vundo?
| Bug fixing is the reason for the update, not vulnerability - as you sem to indicate!
| -----
| Jo Ann
That specific update - no, it is NOT vulnerable and that's a good point.
ANONYMOUS
Jo Ann wrote:
>
> Where does it say that the old version 1.5.0_06 is vulnerable to Trojans such as Vundo?
> Bug fixing is the reason for the update, not vulnerability - as you sem to indicate!
> -----
That is exactly what David is suggesting; To remove the old version
(because it is likely to be buggy) and install the new version.
You seem to have misunderstood his message.
hth
ANONYMOUS
Well, can't satisfy all!!!
Unknown
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you would have kept it simple
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